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::--[[User:Vodou|Vodou]] 19:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | ::--[[User:Vodou|Vodou]] 19:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I agree, it ''is'' ominous. It can't be taken in reference to the imminent [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] because it is obvious the scene takes place at least several months earlier. Maybe she was freeing Baltar of the burden and telling him a story to ease the pain. She wanted Baltar to respect his father and this story would help. This was not answered in the series, so will only be mentionable in the article (beyond Questions section) if it is officially discussed by the creators in the future. Good discussion topic! --[[User:Xlynx|xlynx]] 12:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
::I think the point of the Julius-related flashbacks was to show that even in her genocidal days, Caprica Six was able to generate more compassion for Baltar's father than self-centred Baltar himself could. The weight on "the last time I saw him" just indicates she has seen him more than once, reinforcing that they have developed something of a friendship, which we saw hints of with the instant rapport they developed when they first met.--[[User:Hylas|Hylas]] 15:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Who are Sandra and Cheryl? == | == Who are Sandra and Cheryl? == | ||
Are they Roslin's sisters? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | Are they Roslin's sisters? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Yes. They were first seen in the initial flashback (one was pregnant). This is clarified in a later scene in that flashback when police come to Laura's home to tell her that her sisters and father were killed by a drunk driver. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Indeed. The captions confirm it. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Dialogue slip? == | |||
In one of the flashback scenes I heard Baltar say "fuck" rather than "frak". I watched the episode online since I don't have cable -- so was it the same with the on-air version? Has anyone else noticed this?--[[User:Space Travel|Space Travel]] 08:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
Entirety possible. There is an episode of M*A*S*H in which Alan Alada (Hawkeye Pearce) addresses a member of the mess crew by his real name instead of his characters name, and the same in Babylon 5 (The Gathering) when "Vir Cotto" (Stephen Furst) gets called "Stephen" by "John Sheridan" (Bruce Boxleitner). "Are you OK Stephen?" | |||
== Port or Starboard? == | |||
Admiral Adama asks for volunteers to move to the Starboard side and those choosing to remain with the fleet to move to Port. | |||
I think the main article should state which side of the line was which. While there was a clear majority, there is no sign in the hanger stating which side is which, so the viewer has to work it out for themselves from the actions of the characters. | |||
Was Port to his left or his right? I visited this wiki to find out, and it was not stated, so I am still guessing that the majority went left (Port.) |
Latest revision as of 21:51, 17 December 2012
Title
Daybreak, Part 1 according to producer Mark Verheiden.--Werthead 19:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Story note incorrect
The spoiler story note is incorrect as it does not happen in this episode. It should be moved to the article for Part II once this article is unlocked. 23skidoo 04:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Driving while intoxicated
I am wondering about the recurring reference to driving while intoxicated in this episode. C6 asked Balter if he often drinks and drives to which he replies, "I drink... he drives," while pointing at the unseen limo driver. Roslin's family is killed by a drunk driver in a later scene. Will the driver be someone we know? Probably not since there is really no time to explore this (maybe in "The Plan" if that indeed is going to air.) Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but it is curious that this pops up twice.
Also, when Lee got home did he drive home drunk? I wonder if it turns out that Adama was arrested for DUI and now must attend alcohol counseling or some such? Pure speculation, and probably not of consequence.
- Neither theory is likely, as the effects from such an event would have been apparent, even in the brief set of flashbacks seen from the characters. -Sgtpayne 1528 - 16 March, 2009 (EST)
Cleanup of Questions Section
Per the BW:SAC project on questions, questions are not supposed to have bullet points... just questions and linked to the episode that they belong to. No theory should be placed in these sections. Shane (talk) 12:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Julius -- dead?
I found Caprica-Six's comment "He seemed happy when I saw him last" (or however the line actually reads) to be somewhat ominous. Am I the only one that thinks she may have killed him rather than put him in the home? --Vodou 17:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- That would not serve her purpose and would be easy to discover. -- Noneofyourbusiness 17:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think that rather depends on her purpose. If she was getting rid of Julius so she could be near Baltar w/o interference, then Julius might be dead. And given the hatred Gaius demonstrated for his father, what are the odds he'd ever check up on her story?
- (Of course I'm quite willing to concede that I may be wrong.)
- I agree, it is ominous. It can't be taken in reference to the imminent Fall of the Twelve Colonies because it is obvious the scene takes place at least several months earlier. Maybe she was freeing Baltar of the burden and telling him a story to ease the pain. She wanted Baltar to respect his father and this story would help. This was not answered in the series, so will only be mentionable in the article (beyond Questions section) if it is officially discussed by the creators in the future. Good discussion topic! --xlynx 12:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think the point of the Julius-related flashbacks was to show that even in her genocidal days, Caprica Six was able to generate more compassion for Baltar's father than self-centred Baltar himself could. The weight on "the last time I saw him" just indicates she has seen him more than once, reinforcing that they have developed something of a friendship, which we saw hints of with the instant rapport they developed when they first met.--Hylas 15:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Who are Sandra and Cheryl?
Are they Roslin's sisters? -- Noneofyourbusiness 17:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. They were first seen in the initial flashback (one was pregnant). This is clarified in a later scene in that flashback when police come to Laura's home to tell her that her sisters and father were killed by a drunk driver. --Spencerian 21:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed. The captions confirm it. -- Noneofyourbusiness 18:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Dialogue slip?
In one of the flashback scenes I heard Baltar say "fuck" rather than "frak". I watched the episode online since I don't have cable -- so was it the same with the on-air version? Has anyone else noticed this?--Space Travel 08:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Entirety possible. There is an episode of M*A*S*H in which Alan Alada (Hawkeye Pearce) addresses a member of the mess crew by his real name instead of his characters name, and the same in Babylon 5 (The Gathering) when "Vir Cotto" (Stephen Furst) gets called "Stephen" by "John Sheridan" (Bruce Boxleitner). "Are you OK Stephen?"
Port or Starboard?
Admiral Adama asks for volunteers to move to the Starboard side and those choosing to remain with the fleet to move to Port. I think the main article should state which side of the line was which. While there was a clear majority, there is no sign in the hanger stating which side is which, so the viewer has to work it out for themselves from the actions of the characters. Was Port to his left or his right? I visited this wiki to find out, and it was not stated, so I am still guessing that the majority went left (Port.)