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Eick: Hi this is David Eick executive producer of Caprica Pate: and Jonas Pate producing director caprica and director of episode 102 Eick: otherwise known as reins of the waterfall and we are thrilled to be here to have our first podcast for the first episode and do look at something that we really feels like eons ago that we were actually working on this we are in the editing room right now just coming out of dealing with editing notes from the network on episode ten and locking picture on episode seven and eight and preparing to run out to direct and in Jonas's case episode 18 the season finale. so to go all the way back to episode one at this point is a little bit surreal but the tequila helps I have to say you know the sort of like

Pate: Just makes it all come back over the ... Eick: Ya you know, or certainly its going to make me like it a lot more

Eick: No is actually mr pate who i've been working with now since nineteen ninety eight in wonder in areas corrupted form or another has a great saying about go to the dub stage to watch your pilot or your movie or your episode finish that is like finding twenty bucks in your couch because invariably you have been made to suffer the tortures for the dammed and you're finally seeing it in it's cleaned up form with all the music and all the visual effects finished and all the transitions worked out and its this thing of beauty relatives your memory of it and we just had that experience with 102 it is really strong show and and have you directed first episodes of the series other than your own that you created ...

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Eick: but will would you say that there was . would always suggest who we are obviously very fortunate to .... able to get the pilot were there certain stylistic conceit that you wanted to get away with things change the mediated service elevator after i was about as little as you will answer is seymour will despise the interesting work rehab people talking when i is an and decided ..... ... we will not allow working on a series and the time is the amazon is in ... .... after decision is .... ... place was not shot in ... south .... out there and everything is as you and and that funky little a permanent home infinity and the unicycle thing incredibly he probably this is increasingly is not a ......... .. login does it serves any of the mystique away from me simple art of filmmaking is the .... as phony as ...... studies the technology really has simplified shrunk and there's a lot of ............ on wednesday and was camera use is a you ... not as a valid thousand @ msn one zero yeah yeah i is listed in his left knee there and we are seeing is digital film which is the same way we shop pilot and the creative team doing the pilot doing the series as it is for the most part the same as on the island was the market and the rebels are like alumni and graphic designer going over the top of the stephen not add value in most of these as directors and certainly are visual effects for your so i'm not mention a good portion of the writings that ........ michael taylor and you lose the brand as well to csi must ... . .... .. ... reaction is revealed great writers and guys that is a great having having the family and the shorthand really help things along people finish is for you and your in your discussions about aesthetic choices .. the israeli ratio figured out so union in . we went through an interesting series of spirit that ....... into themselves all along about episode i know ..... or eight where we thought the series and have more humor we thought was the less i have less threatening elements to and i will start working and we thought it was going to see on the basis of it being a little bit more . read a little bit more on or around unusual in and as we pursue that path example being clarice the actress played by polly walker is on earlier beating both the series villain doesn't work as well using a way .. both are as a starting and it didn't really work at and what you're seeing now in this episode ( origin have you not only am what was written what was ........ was reshot after the fact that we have realized we actually do still need that later threat and that since the real stakes in real jeopardy and overall best get the idea that the show was truly ironic or that it would be a lighter touch wasn't really affected our or successful and so this first episode is a great model will shall become you was it has some humor has some and this is the end of the pcs are selecting writers ... ...... .... .... the pilot was inherently ours ... ..... ... ... i will consistent about .. ... ........... .. ........ .. .. ....... .. ...... ..... .... .. of really are or not there were just give up so you ninja assassin assassinated in ......... ........... to ... ...... ..... ....... comment i remember my first instinct was why .. ........ .... ... the realism that is also reluctantly yet that's true in so this is of the system it was think that ..... return to that time was a real media culture is ....... .. twenty four hour news cycle and that people have chosen shows income you can through sportsman records and reports that will .... soon as he gone further in kind should we try and soma we see your msdn and you are looking through tapping channel .. ... culture that he is even though he is yeah and if they had ...... good example of an area where we can still establish .... i will but it's where you get to grow an error ..... a few other areas like that where we grown password to where we were the pilot i think the best shows certainly do that did anyone listening and anabel laps .. ... .... ..... from from season four and .......... .. one from the terms of of the shows growth .. is hard you shall ...... .. by beyond no longer doing action adventure episodes about you knows he is on the show have become very wrong with its own internal politics and dynamics of motions and an ......... ...... in rich and animated so there's no nudity chewy goodness for the fans but it's also and represent scholarship is all business owners boston globe because of the higher sports fans and it just makes me realize what i was not yet there is but ... you but i ..... .... is also a pilot who tries a new deal with those next eyebrow is a viciously teen architecture that would be possible in that familiar costume design and car ...... yet .. ... colliding ...... ...... ... zero .. ... ..... which is partially is cool and interesting and partially as there is yet and most people as the people who watch valves or we should does vancouver and .......... .... was quite easy because on any day schedule we might be in on our main stages weather was the battle start lasko or some swings or ........... ....... vipers organization so patient and maybe one day two of the most out about force ..... and beaches back to you establish a story on and out federer versus following through on ....... where our mainstage time is very limited and that's what you're seeing now ....... lab for the sentencing hearing which is just as a part really are not the show is repositioned tends to be either outside or on more more vast expanses of the building ... ... .... .... .. .. that .... is the sacrifice we made to build .......... ... .... ... were going to go .... ... ... do so it is definitely different read show and personally i she is .. .. that in with you here is a really i think telling ..... ......... were first tested how i integrated this humanoid robot was to be in a practical ... i am so happy with the work that paid and that how did in installing and it picks up here and a bit but it's really i think of the different file of visual effects and doing ....... dogfights bowel stars in the kind of thing and it's really your such a different world that the audience doesn't have the same cues or or triggers that might make something might make the deed ........... .... more difficult but when you do something humanoids and moves and walk like a human is always harder i know that we we were doing motion capture test on the mechanistic silence all industries for about never felt like totally out of it and so knowing that the chief centerpiece of visual effects component .. capital going to be a lot was kind of daunting because the one thing i i i was certainly never legally .... .... are and i think it is wanted to see that it really ...... you really . master i know it seems as a society but i is two hundred and nine .. ... p.m. is a certain historical idea that is not helping all i is immigration is a resident genius ? how is anything glass is ..... ...... monitor that was in so he is not .. technology now since i is how yahoo! is .......... ........ idea when we were in ...... ... ...... we came up with that but so much of it is visual but also .... shot and it really is as classic he is ..... thank you .... ... summer we had you .... he's here and really about thirty five minutes but it was also independent of the individual that was also the first scene that made the and that it was ..... .......... the idea of a girl trapped inside a and as you're seeing here is this is a freaky idea this is the version usual notion that .. ... .... .... around okay sometimes unseen robot sometimes and seeing the girl i hope all are sometimes these numbers ... sometimes doesn't it not .... .... hallucinating and . whole host of things that not just one very slim narrow specific thing that it is and that is that it is a robot with a .... your intellect five that we are allowing the audience only to acknowledge and recognize prescient note of your characters .. ... .... but it is easier said than done and the radial trial and error window that will terms of how shot meaning you have to do one password is just a place for later robot visual effects and another past rehab presume there and editorially deciding when and which and what went to let the audience in on the joke without making it seem like it here interesting thing is that and it is as you can imagine that particular issue has has remained the biggest challenges in seven weeks .. ... is we are faced with the several moments are or seems in which the idea of visceral fat robot is being .... .... awaited using .... leading michigan something some other idea problems nation are a ..... or road you know something else this and all it is is saying the audience is a girl to grow but everyone all courses seeing anything she is yet everything is shot so she .. . screwing around with the real no ...... .... ... .... these things out what was the process like in terms of notes network interference pressure you know how because when you write the script and the the wife and i actually the first version friendship with really and it was completely filled i you remember the first four ......... written and they were so dead good ideas that but totally ..... we had unpacked the idea first for five into essentially set a number so on the end of the act i act i so anyway soon as one is not as huge unrest for provisions other than ... ....... ..... ..... ... ..... ... four as soon as i said very busy ........ ........ .... too was a scene from one of three thousand fold that's a scene that long more effective as a three and and we felt like we wanted to locate amanda emotionally a little clearly the on ..... run to cut the deficit in ............. ... ...... .. that and she is yet sure ...... that happens more often than i find it i'll start where i always knew he said what was episode for their conversion he said what was ....... seven i say is separation that there was never any confusion about what is and what on camera guy can never remember what episode titles are what character arcs happen with ........ ... content editors me about plot of the episode is ..... .... because it isn't your cereal and to read certain scenes in certain runners and certain character arcs are modular and you can move them from one it is representing you have when ... face a problem with it in this episode which was i trying to carry through and maintain man is wanted you all over track and and really relate to and understand and appreciate why she does what she does it in this episode we needed more material ..... more stop to make feelings are and that and i ..... .. time series jonas is talking a minute ago about the it reminded me to be done all these scripts before ron and i have a tree in lake tahoe in january of two thousand nine in which we in the staff set and you try to crack back the first batch that was and it was a wonderfully in a liberating your away from hollywood ..... away from the rigors of show making were able to sort of hang out great house and talking story and talk about where to go and you know that i don't like rats and it was it was right and instantly ways and yet what we came back with was so much material we thought we could fit into the first six episodes goal that it is in it eventually became material ( the first eight or eighty nine discussed the way how is your underwriting movies in the lease that way i'm half the original white wall to ceiling room with houses in the middle is our access it has to do it all the way .. yes is ruining to the was the younger nature is beautiful .. ..... .. the morning and know anything and get out the first load in overview not created years and it was really it is over the summer that intention will go down if you want to make everyone feel like you are no .... ... that idea and it's heartening factor that .... universal was so you're your so that what we wound up with was more needed and so ... several months to realize that we will really work for ... too much as they say in you should ......... that and it didn't you heard was so what's new about that until we got much deeper this is a dynamic that the network is very on was ........ ... .. the earliest thing i remember is coming up with on top of which was .... sam and young william ...... ... ..... ...... would basically do the that we would have no fun little irreverent excursions into the world of organized crime from the point of view of his very young man and and working i will start ... the first day you will get an nih in unaided he really did he come above the sea level is your medium that you .... time to ... that learning is well on but you know that ..... ... .... so far we can go with that storyline that you know the young man is being ....... and .... .. to the world of organized crime you give us rules this .. the idea play yet with young willie with san and ....... ........ saw and i think that god and everyone will will one understand like ... .. your yes scott were .... reasonable as some viewers might recognize software was quarterback you are in you and .... .. .. is will . ..... ...... yet the pain was a young was also the director .... record producers on the ....... ... ............ .. i is as honest .. you yet but what was interesting to ..... .......... .... . and the state were both the ..... like a long and there was an element of that show the naturalism and realism is the way to place so that was not deal artificial that we really want to .... ... .... .. ... english sure but really think you once again ......... with his idea of the girl robot and covering the subject is how often .... that he'll ........... liaising his result ... .... this is ... own pilot was and is essentially a party and .. and your robots is ending on ... .... .... would look ridiculous just cut lifestyle program .. a friend is healthy and learned yesterday that congress will utilize the receiver and the this is ... emotion manifestations the reluctant last in the classroom by justin of the yet yet yes i is yet the and not the received by the way comes into play in a very meaningful and .. runs the only development so mad that is in the discovery this is a young woman playing lazy so we founded and it seems we can always rely on is so reminds me in your case i have in terms of her being there really is ... heated the level that you you know you're actually doing i don't know if you figure out how this idea now and we certainly didn't katie university but by the second season this and i .... .... and she had performed yet she completed she can .... .. evil is .. .... you .... ........ a fan for years and yet was looking through .... ......... cable channels are petri games and he's normally playing a similar character which is the sort of oh harmless and yet ruthlessly terrifying as messianic yeah and she just she really brings a whole dimension to the character that i think anyone else would not see him go to mean .. you all times that i is all .... ..... .. truth professed not to prepare you and is .. hold is not really nuances of the year is distantly in an area so nice of you yet the best one in our what what you don't get necessarily from watching the show is going to use this ..... is black humor that comes from having been in the business as long as he has and you know there's a phrase you get the job and air really does he ..... ... .... readily series but there is this sort of air of ... i yeah yeah yeah and any ... .. ..... ..... .... .... ...... ... .. .. just isn't worth it is a and also as someone who also i both . ...... .... i i think the reason of the .... ... you as well as you know you're talking about casting ... young women usually in . hoover your limited budget and if the young women as young as this year is that when dealing with people who don't have legal experience is ended to one of the next that this is the first ......... .. ...... .. ... ........ .. ...... .... .. .. ... zone as this was not actually a person ........ .. exact caesar i'll keep using there is any room in the folded arms the time is standing by the ..... twenty people folded on the yes yes and by the way that line that was written right before he threw the .......... window was long more problems i have a nearly over what will motivate you to need by some as is .... .. ......... three days ago you might think this is what was the money is ... runs in something which wound up in the promo is that and i think i i mean exactly like the photograph of you in on . conversation minimum unit powers that will ... you the ..... lily is set .. in the mountains of zion that was after she was not in a you this is controversial because we went back and forth on what we want to show on these videos green sort of no home videos we didn't watch and what you give away the audience early in what you leave for them to discover later as your in a big whammy reveal the .. .. ... nixon .......... .. .. .. in the twenty bucks so dishonestly ....... .. ........ ...... ..... .. .... .. ruthlessly ........ that paula was only nineteen no way yet the mcc ... this one is worth a you very closely to see it so .... ........ he will not send you on ... hot hot ... ... ... ..... .. one that is not only in only was he sees on his best season and there is definitely on and have set the bar high and i is that the great thing about that yet she comes from their big noses western that was then the wording of .... pages office fax machine and you know what the university day-to-day and so in a way to that thing is there no when you come into a situation like this where by virtue of my free of budget and schedule you have ... organizing time is last time it you know improvising and was unremarkable to me about all is ......... ....... from watching you is not really as ... .... on his and certainly the best drinking his way what is in no way you want since the low ... .. . ...... .... ... ... still paid it is alike i was thinking higher the reason for i guess now twelve years and then working in the army is ........ .... i ... .. it is with ninety eight .... .... okay .. amazingly electric seniors and of his capacities shifted because i was a network executive usa network as this account of how the experiment when j and i called his name is jonas and his name is jay i was going okay i usually .. person changes in his twin brother named josh and they sometimes will .. for separately they're working together on the .......... ...... ... which i is involved in by firing in developing and aaron as a series of music you like ... .... ...... .... ..... ... living by a woman helpless the philanthropist ... and i have . ...... say .... is i will ... and i just feel the reason so but but if the only time you get sure or white ... asian or anywhere like resistance collaboration is on set you get your ....... with the guys .... direction going little .. .... ..... the ... i know he is not unusual that how it is this the democracy and that is not exactly is not healthy for my part coming from but my dna was and will ...... cast by sam raimi and i ran ..... 's television company for many years and so in an unorthodox ends came from ge came from a director and he is was a writer deviancy is live and very collaborative with directors only the other executive is mine contemporaries .. .... not so i understand the design is ..... seven don't you find on other shows with a word to by my role doesn't come from my background is more friction more passive aggressive he thinks of her as selfish as culture and ... visited television usually should set she will script that yet sure if the rare so he said all along she is like yes and you know you and i said no is currently did i just honestly i feel like this .. .... .. and showed and that things .... changed from script to you but you recognize that ninety nine percent of every other episode right and i ... ........ ... ....... doesn't want a little about but yesterday i is understanding is that you ensure you ... .. ... us and you and you you all ... right down to send lazy an .......... in place where his motivational leadership like did you ...... a and he is ..... .. .. .. on but i don't like the group ... ...... in a ... the most . ..... in in in this work for me spontaneously is . ...... that they can improvise from ottawa yeah i ...... ... ... ... ... .. lie about by the way i agree that and i begin viewing directors and by the way is yet another craftsman home team with accountability for me the result of the show van shows where there is the sort of ... dictatorial fiefdom where there is no possibility about all i could think ..... .... ... ....... .. someone on the come from a work directory comes from the opposite is additional toward his goal was gone and val ......... . ..... .... about directors you have point of view is the first meeting for this job ... ..... i said if i have this year as he is certain he's as he is now i don't think those were the weapons and .. is ...... to actually trust you after ... ...... is beyond human love and say that more often than not he is happy to and this is unusual that someone comes from what ... case of wrong war the rick berman you know star trek background ..... the work is the would have flexibility as a star with me to you to create an environment like the one who's fighting is nice for us because that's now been handed down this will be definitely want .. .... directors .. ......... in addition to . ............ .. ........ .. that his number seven .. you're .. all .......... you .... not have ...... . ...... even give you the ..... .. the easier talking pictures to dictate i think we are dealing with locations and visual effects and weird ideas like this one is going to the robot you need your directors is he thinking and hopping and often you'll have ... .... is it it is that day run time replacing me she is well ... that our relationship is .... the ........ were okay so ready in the next address is for the forerunner of your ........ about the will to this is a big memorial ..... in africa proper and is designed to have a very beautiful sunny day and decided universities are not going to the olympics are coming and it has really fantastic architecture cold harbor area really do think it is living in a place so we can do a lot on the ............. have to suck up to the is amazing the things that are virtual in the sequence of the jumbotron and is not as much a hundred action and so when people find out we should know ...... torture am also glad to work with the late party friendly lazar producer mike preservative will derogatory term in terms of what they're going for it because they're more than just instruction for really should creatively make a radio do with how the episode comes out emotionally ....... but not when when we were doing the capital pilot ..... was otherwise i'll estimate there is working our attention and the heart she didn't heard that she did not have the pilot was figure out a way to allow jetliner to go home to watch the lakers celtics all game .. irrespective of whatever the domino effect was so knowing that i was ....... all absolutely remember seeing you guys and and ... ..... ..... that is all for you of the physical is one is person that is their argument is actually a hundred places .... the ..... morale shot and it will let you with them it is usually when you sign some kind why wide shot and .... people who .... that always give you the latest milligrams so we did across the application ..... . ... range shot was not shot .... ... .... work you are not ...... .. ... right and so what were seeing now is that amanda the character use them arriving at this and her daughter was evolved .. .... terrorist act as represented by this talisman sources and was a piece of bone and now we see sort of what we were trying to hold the audience the earlier scenes about that one being on somebody's being closing is all about motivating manager which is about you and this is not what you're saying is not seen as . three to help bill that will release work and earn the idea that this woman this is devastated mother of murdered child is going to do is and it is good to know is that i think you know to to farhad and sue are our other partners on ... ...... channel people at universal the that came from them and i think it was you one thing that in the shuffle of all the others huge issues were talking about the robot of the girl robot on you know is the first episode of the pilots and suddenly the fraction of the price time they were really sort of the site okay not always in sound but the one that is still in issues really are standing at an circle waiting to what is supposed to her new friend you is ... ...... somoza in zürich i did this concert for the american not probably shot capacity and shaw had watched the pilot but was living their life five and thirty talk uses of the do we saw this is already going to ... you really ....... just ...... .. that we can talk about what . scene but not much that you guys we visited the uk that which .. associated i was yeah that was something else i mean we went through another big transition from pilot series was and you lose earlier expansion capital which is to say it was like vancouver more like something of a vincent and that's a expensive and be time-consuming and i are talking about e.g. buildings and horizons and skylines vehicles and crafts that when this in our world a lot of things that some of which is losing will is not ..... the first is research where .. is an overview of his life .. ... but .. is an interesting title we always called ......... never heard was a call anything else i don't know what an audience choose completely living is also the last or five hundred sci-fi channel ...... ....... here the ....... that i post the following amounts .. ... ......... .......... ... as though you will see any good in your ...... title is the one thing that remains the most connecting sewer or glued about the lack of minutes because it doesn't mean anything to anybody that .... .. ........ .. work and so you know him since he is i will .... you ... even the model was of course out we were called in africa because that is the name of dallas is ... and is .. okay to the science was what i ...... jen is quite attractive severely have the moment where joseph is going to determine for sure he's done trying to sentinel and from here will get off of thanks for your time and thanks for your interest in helping watch and talking your

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episode one oh three first is allowed free reign waterfall and we accidentally .... ... previous episode is wonderful hi this is an executive producer of canada is a crazy director happy the otherwise known as the rita were thrilled to your brothers of one of three which is entitled rain water ran a waterfall like . hammer of exactly watching the recap of the most amazing visual from gary and this episode was directed by my partner and friend ron moore who is not here but here the podcast later in the is there ... say taking a survey .. ... ..... .... .. shown as overseas .. . ........ .. the internet i will oversee . .... ... .. will is ... policy i will .. we had you know reciprocal a will or i guess you could say we exchange roles .. . ..... way i started writing on about my first is written as and of course ron my partner is a producer but for sure my mentor as a writer was very incurred jamie strupp is helpful collaborative all the things that young writer really needs my favorite phrases is right the last season .. a way of .... .... .... .... ... ..... no one became a directory on ...... show i was the director wranglers so when he directed ... episode battles or i was little as those with vision of a woman which ... mister ........ but this episode of the africa directed i was back in the fold will work ...... .. great because i love watching his families in the course . little bit about that and hopefully you know and give him some confidence to give me so but .... an interesting sort of you know if your relationship and that through the experience of else .. africa iv writer and draws director and .... i guess is as certain ...... so long as it is one of our ten month i insert you of our culture and in go into his ..... ........... injured in you i love the visa versa is so wrong she was offspeed like this is very unusual from the pilot and i like that which is that something meaningful about this young woman being the café with something off something you know not to and the mac is one of her favorites is that we can convey a lot of answer the older ability and just look this episode was also on i believe part of the .... ....... was delayed to support your number is .... as ... .. were initially one right and and and we just had too many you know i just please ... that also the voice of rock star .... of what right .. .. primarily he was brought in a visiting .. a unicast and i anointed we was and that was some of his taste online was devastated by the .. ......... and ... certainly i .. john stuart and was amazing about that is huge sigh .. ......... and knows about sermon that one ........ and eighty he scenarios is really you are and he was making the film schedule and he just came in and shot decided he is moving away .. .... yeah and then it is a big fan and he and ......... ... .... for ... monologues ... .... .. .......... and it is across the course of the yen and he winds up playing very pivotal role actually is not just box ui are the chorus and he ... ... ..... in the story went when we discover how daniels is a horrible day and uses the late-night rounds of like hugh grant ... .... need when you so that i was losing because i am a lot of the dialogue scene was the kind of dialogue was really about all the little written and solstice knows how to sell anything he is as natural as i is usually a ............ .... we also there is a mean-spiritedness of ... right .. .... is really suggested which i really appreciate it is not fair is ugly and loud and it is overkill and you finance on why you are one .... .. ......... . ...... little restraint i really do appreciate the not jesus there is a great deal of discussion about fedoras and smoking cigarettes pilot and these early episodes and you know of course there is a similar figure one yes i love you that that's true for sure but you know how many times we have to cigarette went only times we have seen i fail i understand you are seen as a kind of ......... .... .... .. la and i remember at some point in this scene is smoking let me ..... ... ... .. all those suicidal that .... to we didn't spend much time on in discussing someone to when exactly ..... read for this role i was i was so thrilled because the advantages of law and you know the idea we get him in this role of you know it's essentially any almost as father does seem too perfect to be true and he really brings this sort of rate moral conflict character someone who's being the bad guy you can tell actually is deeply comfortable and and and would love nothing more than to settle down into a nice family and can't because of who he is and where he was born and what is fiction like this at the variable that is written very little that is is really special affiliate just when you thought is the size of behavior that makes you believe that he's he's a good guy that his style was talking little earlier about permitting it .. ........ of the health care areas have now there is this deeply committed professionalism that eric has crystals have about his back and where the sizemore improvisational and will .... from and the friction that i is actually really interested to hear ... will yet you have to ...... and just try and think you and and and and still do things like go play to mass scientists played a character that after years of watching tv and movies that audience is instructed to .... an associate from you again and somehow weirdly making for .... zone ..... i don't even pretend what do you love me i was in ...... .. ...... .. .. dumb as his design .... ... while working at an age where title sequences .... ........ .... a white title on . card now on i also wanted by the syrian army in an age of the unbelievably great i think i sell the life you really just .......... .... ohio that is .. ..... that the favor of the day and we all know about everyone to get out to lunch and how you .... your squirrel * is that he lacks he realized as in the old yet it evokes an hbo video you watch the main titles for things like him ... feet under or in wells of the law note there is designed down to the words not ....... what the show is and yes it is ... haskell elements of an and and in the me it is easy in a tile or are paced design and is really about that very sophisticated sort of i really think you can make the audience feel like i'm watching a show at a higher level of his ...... .... i was right where it is really quite powerful and phil crane thought we were making this claim was for i like what one would visit the opening is earlier water is obviously a book .... ..... ... ....... . .... and that's what this sort of a junior fleeing sam was sentenced to about will reflect .... was good the young man's learning the ways the world through a group of mock and wiseguys ..... .. him inappropriately and you know create environments that none of us really want our son accusations exposed to yet really because of his devastated family and his father is the stricken something i saw this on .. ways that ... listeners will start was great and i ... certain .... yeah i mean it was in our euros dealing with well our robotic is he articulated the martyrs is the lesson of what you let itself ......... the easiest i'm really happy with that i mean i think we need is a ...... elements of pure sci-fi shows largely as yet and i think her and doesn't love how still livable place physical healing reminds me of is yours for version one is something about the unlike the embodiment of just got my asking .. .... as ........ ... vulnerabilities .. this rest she and ... yet exact is that this was an interesting runner because the have this notion that there was this on involving a model protected ellen who was on trial for crimes and who joseph as the default query to the a lot which is our cosa nostra would happen with the judge and the judge getting guy off and yet did you tell that story so much other material wall who is this guy crime and you are wondering what were the prosecutors after and we have room for any ... so .... ........ in the area is your answer one strong storyline was here sure that we living in the early for you ... your tracers eight three one one and is yes and in this episode in particular have a bit of the mosaic for you no ..... ... the quality ideas that we are serving several episodes the good news i you know people watched this file have now been wildly entertaining you drawn to it i think it's because of the specific .... ..... is the ...... specifics are the ........ very you know involving an irresistible ..... like this where you are not sure what the point of the scene is except for this young woman is deeply comparable to the ......... whoppers and wonderfully ... .. in a way is irrelevant because this is that your client yet we're talking about here on walkers like clarice as a little bit more like the ballpark character from ..... that should be both the villain and waited ..... but 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the pilot managed to have the ones shaw of the two girls making out with each other on the one day i could be there to see you america is inserted into personal meeting with a secret you can't and this is before we have established a uniform signature transitional devices will show us what it looks like when a character is all around her head as the is quite the subject of many ..... .. network notes and frustration but we finally zeroed in on a nail down approach a visual prompt so i ... ...... ... ... .. ... movie is as healthy as you enormously for . ......... ... ... is the nature of the word ..... what is the idea .. .. additional ....... .... .... ........... is that you can find yourself wanting to help the audience along the same when you see a certain image you you know you're entering into ... the world and can't see the image and you don't even image you might be able to use so we defined to things basically one is that when a character places a call about their .... we see one kind of visual signature helping .... ..... the world and if we want to go to the world without the shot of the character ........... on her face we have a different visuals after the first emphasis it into the soviet audience will be confused what we found is that you have a visual signature exiting the world into ........ proper it is just too many signatures too many visuals and is also social example too much there okay .... exiting back to entering the next which is in the world now you see that we're just entering the world cold or not establishing for the audience of this is in any way different from a natural environment in later episodes what we would've done was open the act on an establishing shot clarice 's ..... .... .. wherever it is she is offering her ........ then go into her house and see her on her hologram with lights blinking and venues ... visual signature to get into the senior watch an assistant example of what you know marijuana is what you learn as you go on that you need the show needs as it handles to appreciate and be able to ride all the various layers ... ...... shows what you want talk about pointless holes that i think about you all are credible as usual the pretty good now he will message is deleted from a broken down two hundred and the pretty ......... you and i bought ..... ..... ..... thorough rep he said it citizens will not episode fourteen i would say to really zero in on her life theories in our brass ring for ..... damn good enough that all but all throughout she's just go to ...... anyone who will yeah i was ........ .... .. .. direct support is this will is ... world and ... .. ....... planet world terrorist are making and i see one package that has occurred in italy since an ethnic thing is a right is a you know living to be established in the parlor and it does come to fruition is pretty shocking way and all i can say is where lacey is now anywhere shall be in the season finale is following up sore back to mister 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love it is a question about lifting the level injury whether not ........... totally gets .. totally understands the occasions or there misled into thinking daniel actually was there i shall cancel that objectivity is a lesson of suzanne vega .. ... and will thing that i always find ........... filmmaking that you have to try and tell your story but there is some the things that it's better only because it makes it more interesting that i always ) i watched the movie chinatown five times before i estimate that part of what makes it really is all that is running a diane and in that that sort of that ... .. misdirection were also telling that particular ease with the names were this release .... not being very specific job and really felt that happened in on their pc ... that .. is not as pretty as he sees in his monitor film .. what is not always true . think the momentum is everything like this really helps .... even sure on the hit over the weekend last weekend things that are you going to the lives of * where .... i yet ....... so i think this is a device that reflected your because .. didn't µ thinking i just realized the questioning was .... i thought with i know because when .... is cutting jagged .... lights ....... next thing you know and can be ..... it was in my divorce he was .. fact one and in general ..... ... visited norton from you about what anything is a different unique or unusual about our style of working on the show as areas new to austin terms of the is not also owns your want to expand their editorial staff to show that reason bring some new perspectives visitor i own the fact that i'm constantly for you .. ... what anything is how .... what is really nice and that is character i've done several sci-fi hip i is a you and his children as retail warehouse thirteen when my things about catholic is still an huge world rather than being sorted very small you so this is example this particular scene watching right now annual advertisement talking ...... and offered by plot but is shot in such a way you really see the scope and his wife shot and then there is really close so the stylesheet ...... .... on the ....... inside lease you with three cameras and is a tremendous amount of footage that we get every day as you are .. ... .. they sometimes are in fact i have to get as is in the episode three which was directed in the three cameras will always need put in place where everything you angle while the directors of canada wanted to learn is but anyway some of the directors of work with the really good but not totally conversant conversant or comfortable with three cameras so you get some overlap and .... of motivation work was born of the that that process process on the right which is really away moving very quickly when you have a lot of money and because a writer who was the ....... ... ] our .... ..... .. brought within this approach which is a way of maximizing the amount coverage you can get that is ......... outer limits on shoes and yes the directors understand .. had house in october during joyce's does also work in which you are just part of the reason we were lucky to get a ... but during the shoot of one of two notices episode long was monitoring and orienting very never goes way about that idea is sometimes really glad he didn't really it was unfortunately not all represented .. . ..... it is hardly a visiting your measures ..... standing and does a lot of seven-day ......... .. is to get if used properly .... you'll more with more angles workforce options editorially ... .... ... want then you were shooting at ... standard warranty one thing i love about as well is that you know is there is very traditional sense of filmmaking where is your go across the state line you shoot the great initial over why shot and plus and what this allows available cameras you're breaking the convention to make it more visually interesting and more say is you ......... and .. more like setting which is not accidental for the john nonsense proscenium .... ... .... .... but as far as things happen .. ... is this new character this is what was unique about this of ... ........ in this role was that the longest time the discussion was ........ .... what happened my feeling was that i thought he was better .. play a more savage crazy yet all those matters in life svengali than someone who is the more polished you know captain industry is available ... reason yet there's something more three or more kind of of the elements of the js and i want to feel like he was putting on airs by ....... this you know steve jobs to is okay and and so and worked out great because we don't have languages john i first that ..... drew is awesome setting on the landlord .. .... and he was as yet he was still raving me i think he and eric and that ....... is not inc. and shooting lasting and sixteen .. ...... ...... at the dinner table this .. .. inner casing and acting reminds me of the best sorry eddie and michael will see . table at .... .. ....... .. ... hours and it is to act as their accuracy in controller characters is really great ..... this fire is also ....... .. this marvelous as .. .. ....... right decision so i will what i also like about and eric stoltz news i worked with a couple of projects i am always in awe of .... .......... ... as is so professional and he so here polished and character verges matches up to and i is .. often is it rarely happened that way your you and you and and and the writers i think and in the was seen in the raisins they put in a ..... ........ the ..... ........ thing that enables in the ..... male you think that bruce's friend k or something but they later not that an later in this episode again i have to stop and writing cases fluently and expected direct direction is these places so you will certainly be really ... ... along for a so yes i'm in editor was so grateful it was just so you think you are getting analyzing was i yeah and you're accurate is reasonable the young lawyer so so he was you really grateful and his children as young as they points out that michael nancy at the last scene verges is that the camera never lose except one and four dollars shot which is the revelation .... is really nice dress we set up these contest number on the television episodic television tends to a recent ..... ... ........ traffic cops sizing you know are expected it is very precise very finite wheelhouse of what is allowed is allowed only if you know what can you want to show the lenses we allow michelle and you always i certainly always felt very strongly about ........ ........ ... michael's example is a he is approached television is known if he is yet you still know there's a level authorship that you ..... with that we not only in outpouring we will ........... ... yes ... then anything he utilizes ... ..... and also ...... .. .... and visit every every decision is coming from the character or story we need and where you put the camera is where does the camera ........ that's only why this letter ever written on someone while working downsize a scene where i was learning .... ........ .. the edges and .. the cfr is ........ ... shot he got covered as well worth getting closer and closer closer as he learned the news and it was like any of ... more interesting than you it means you get people talking is what is going on here is .... when i was serving as i never thought a little young i ... so far and yet i believe and michael told me it was the will to see the thing about women's when you're set and when you're watching him wrapped not talking about you know you yet .. is ...... ... ... ...... .. mouth were seniors what i meant is that i never really felt while watching him make any decisions yet any of those ideas i think he's learned through working with people who were business cycle was to show that the more he talks about his process the more subject to the constant criticism ... question anything you say looks like he's vocabulary . .... .. everyone is . very for the production of ..... by and the entire i watch the scene " sonnier and ........... it would be in the order seems to wear and comes in an and gate one .... ... .... ... use his ... and is beautiful henderson is setting some emotional ... we were in that he was he was planning to get an exact i sent and .. .. . action her up .. her life yet you level the density is little remark is in and it was randy's excellent it is i anyone is a yeah yeah and you however was nothing .... ........... ... .... i is not .. i do so as serving as we have one of his layer .......... suggested he is a lose lose my immediate phone numbers and i am dirty harry when the dirty harry killer ...... .. .. say it being ... .... ... on lazily as he goes this guy is like with and share relevant however the yard and pays the money to get . civilian who cost it is aware of the fathers .... . why islam is living this life the counselor yet .. .. apartment ... it is a great location is in your heart ... postproduction process is to wesley had an episode together and we are editing his shooting but were not hearing so i prepared for air yet so are looking all these episodes found some rises glory holding together so . ..... .... happened in this episode is earlier pieces were received on this ration shop is we felt that they were playing is well in episode five so those pieces got moved into episodes that we see barn this and lazy lazy start need happen and she's trying to get a package .. ... as a result and simplify the .... so unified and ..... .... this is the one with ... this is not camera the ......... right .... and and is ........ is busy as you really really well and is six while something from the survey was very vocal about that enough is the synchronization process we were writing ... were getting close to manhattan and .... ....... .. around this point and we had in a discovering this in arena writers and contacts that there was the tendency to want to serve as a single ..... episode ..... without injuring ..... .... ...... .. ...... . ....... ..... .. ... ..... ... ......... and and the problem is of course that we were evolving as is a group of stores and a normal initial reports that breath ...... and opened it was not possible and is willing .. say it's okay to do an episode in which we never see . .... ... .... ... .. .... you know is you .. .. .. the day .. every episode ... . fairly prominent ....... room one but for but everyone else i think is the younger ..... and is a inelastic connect with the characters .. focusing this if ... ...... .... get invested in camera so that we can so often .. come back still so that her word word ... ... dad will because i .... it in terms of when you have those you know eureka moments and when you actually is a couple of episodes it probably wasn't until around nine that we were able to actually implement .. the rising yellow suit addressing at that ) in and so a lot of the episodes therefore is ... ........ yet more and more like five and ..... on more will ..... any you even read the script is made to want nothing is as real to you as actually watching the screen using the theorizing imagine at what this story is . .......... but once you get a film of ... .... .... it through you that that you see how things are working or not you to make changes make this ... .......... and interesting and drawing you in sleep .. i was not i quit reading scripts and we will start thinking ...... .... see it is leader in ... door i have different ideas i found reading this register is attached to get nor will you for example are no longer exists as a young david and i .... just talking about you the ...... well but .. ... talking the idea and i are conceptually leaned and in a few minutes ago you shall sequence and ........ there is i i i i know you .... .. ....... i have seen in other instances we it is and of course i know because you from the conceptions ... through the directing and editing and cutting and visual effects on historic ...... in the system change the character development and change those good for me .. the composer that separate but actually not about you before i music poser i like to use this product before i start getting ideas in my user based on what we are actually going to work in the .... .. .......... in .. and that there is a that is the devil himself made more communist than one unit you're doing your workflow that which is a reference was .. put on a so you're really at liberty to freight out fred zan and you know how things ...... you later because he's not the focus on delivering a beginning middle and melodrama as much as you are telling you getting the ....... on the number of surface at once and so you have the same possibilities the reason why whether ..... .. ..... ..... . cannot remember what the social because he is related diseases one data is i have decided i will watch this scene with that so long in getting an invitation from rachel is not a sequence that was ..... .. five and now she's along with the glasses on hold and .. is also positioned that all this philemon rachel joey wasn't was was not that clear he moves in this realist cell phone as i say and make that a bigger story so it made more sense otherwise i say using the setup seem to go along wanting to meet a girl in the world and the inventor that .. now and then in the middle of this when we were and is seeking from you and all this scene correct me if i'm wrong is is augmented by some material that is this you will i will continue to use some just ..... ....... .... yes were always looking that is partly shot a whole bunch of clothes so that you respect series .. the world and there was really spectacular stop that was a this is also the introduction of the remedy confidant and labeled it is your arms around this idea that as an avatar you can be ...... with the you know i think is a generational know where certain age is to understand that utterly because the design needs where we have briefly matter of way in a lot and any and all ........ .. ..... you will ........ ... .. .... ... decide what character you want to be and this is one step which is suggesting that you can design the actually living organization that is people other people and the characters of yours is making excuses the reason she looks like sony is because she on making the problem is only ...... ..... .... world know the ..... .. ... ...... .... .. the answer was that you save all if there was his only avatar while ............ all of differences .... brought this .. ... ........ that alice donovan neale r and i .... that zoe avatar is somehow stuck that if she doesn't sleep code bases can't change what i i'm sure we ever say that certain that the dollar @ preferred interpretation i never understand why philemon should have .... .. .. and i think that when ... first want to open up new doors ..... you want ..... are wondering why everyone doesn't look like he is always there on you and uses it .. the .... water while i .. there . it is as follows is not a new well of logic runs very now is ........ you these are starting ... ...... you more people are interested in .. great also camera by the way that is one more light weight and smaller than those of your garden rightly ... ..... ... .. you within the importance of what they . will call it because he is shooting at there this past ship the looks like somebody got that much but .... remove one of the shuttle through those kinds of issues you could hide in the corner restaurant and it was euthymic .. activities which is your life and ... ... ...... that .......... .. ... flashlight that jonas and dan and eric that there is no room as these loves in the end of asked for ... .. ... is probably ......... ... .. ... .. if the thought or anything i have ever .... .. . .... remember he was visiting with you .. the venues .. .. ... my ...... is human if he approved that no consumables may help michael listening to come ..... or whatever we are very lucky as i is that the we and a very key significant ..... ... later episode on on her shoe she actually does not overpromise the urine and will show it because she's a strong ... we would not have wanted is not you don't and if you go to russia is he was a you know the player battles are now no one ever bought was a ..... ...... .... ... back of the series is yet there is ......... ... the was that .... characters series dollhouse is rick written characters when teachers i have decided he really was a discovery in this isp is ...... as .. how this shall ...... as it is is this i thought the players never really never left is a serious student .. care yesterday regular hours write to him and i thought that all .. in all discussions of the writers change in ......... ... .... any really all that lucky just where is this e-mail ... .... see one of ... best ......... ... ........ .. because .... instrumentation you right the patient is easy .. ... ..... ... .... compared to ... fast-paced workshop is a moment ..... .. back in one nine talk .... ... something is really tense and this is where i really got introduced the purchase i will not not as i is .... .... but is long right unite .. .. ........... ..... making sure that he is missing yet even though the conversation is almost not there yet so .. ignoring what on the surface and looking at the cat and mouse subject i say that i want to know if the times ... going and i see that you're seeing is working and drinking with my right or .. my mouth started watering and ninety minutes and i stop at ... biography on him it is provided on .. .. .. yet another is i is no production line everything he said i warned you wish in a way uses and weirdnesses will go this is the color differences will enjoy throwing human alzheimer's and i guess i'm certainly fairly sound about right job ... career but i would imagine this is the 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hello and welcome to a cat brought podcast episode one oh seven on saturday turning point .. ... that i would say definitely a episode which marked a shift in how we decide ... stories with this show and the tone in the silence of the content of what this novel of the ideas would make up the episodes and i'll get some of that detail later but first i'll say that this is a a a in an episode in which we had it at one point decided we were inhabiting group ...... have on our consent and polly walker and ........ and it seemed like because it was such a personal episode number is also an episode which reflected the change in style storytelling related to one this morning so welcome to the world okay so we have a situation going back in time now where we were shooting at ....... four i in which baxter sarno had a prominent role and i'm standing in the hallway of the stages where we were shooting having conversation with my partner ron and just talking to the fact that the show would serve common crossroads where we were looking at the results of what had been originally pitched and sold as a bedroom and board room melodramatic soap opera that we were not going to be attempting to capture the mystery and suspense him and intensity of ........ .... seventy something much more low-key or just not even looking at it differently and the results of that had begun to concern us in some respects not that we were second-guessing the show but we felt like there were muscles of the show have that we weren't really flexing that we have this amazing tasks we had a great writing staff we had this incredibly dense and multifaceted mythos that we were in a lot of ways are shying away from and all of our attempts to keep the show separate and apart from the start and so worship episode for breaking the story for episode seven were waiting for the draft episodes of my ..... this point and ron and i were talking about fact that this episode seven really needed to represent the bandwidth to show them what the will options were in terms of where the show could go and i think it it won't let now watch .. this episode really reflects the turning point in the series and that it is a point at which the show shifted from being idiosyncratic and sort of skewering kind of charming and soft and an end really got pushed into more of a suspense driven broad idea kind of show in and i think that one of the most telling ways in which that was reflected was in this storyline involving amanda in which she begins to be haunted by the image of her deceased brother who died a violent death and who was someone she felt responsible for and resulted in her hospitalization than a great deal .. .............. help and we had a number of ways you can go with what the explanation for this was .... haunting and one of the ways one of the options .... the exclamations involved what i would call oracle refers to is a kind of soap opera explanations next mission that required a certain suspension of disbelief certain level of of embracing a campy or more sort of unrealistic ! one which would fit within the traditional soap opera versus the exclamation that we ultimately settled on which was more in keeping with the realistic or naturalistic for vérité style that we've inherited from palestine which marks the ..... capital and in later episodes ... ..... episode data nine and the first batch of the of the next season will talk a little bit more bluntly about what those about what was about the option that we didn't pursue but it's very significant to me in that it is the decision that we made was sort of served as a springboard for what the show would become and what the show has since become is something much more akin to i ..... . cross breed of of the new suspense and the larger stakes if you will about all-star with this sort of soap opera concept that we become with capital and so from this point on in the series i think you'll find that the show takes on a different tone slightly more i guess you would say crushingly suspenseful tone or atonement more nailbiting and a little bit less idiosyncratic and him soft and that the .... ... that's probably the most significant in both a meaningful sanction of this episode in a way that i would save more so than any other episode where i feel like we were able to walk this line between having a representation of so we what we call zoe are zoe robot with lacey in the real world in which lacey is trying to help zoe make this move to gym and on and pursue an agenda that is really only known to zoe and zoe at a which is a little watching now in this scene which was really just a young woman whose who looks beautiful on dresses beautifully and .. in this nightclub and and and it's it's a great contrast really i think a hallmark of the show the week we continue to bounce back and forth between these two ideas into zoe is because ultimately the reality is that we isn't this there is no zoe so we spent and yet we have this manifestation is only the sort of electronic digital re- creation of zoe who is now subdivided into a number of different personae .. conveys i give this certainly is as writers and us as filmmakers a great great irony to play just that that question of what self and awareness begin hand and is there a possibility that if you the one watching this were to cease to exist is there some aspect of you every bit as meaningful or survival are as real as you think you are whom i continue on in spite of your demise if it's a deep consideration is certainly a the metaphysical kind of you know greatly debated him and him and often written about concept but certainly the and and one that's not unexplored in the annals of science fiction but it's certainly one that informs m more than any other this is also not speaking ........ ... science fiction is another this e-mail which features heracles whom the young man whose little league joseph through the world to help him find his daughter tamara is is introduced as the sort of retreating disaffected youth who works in a grocery store in cheyenne you know looks like he's uncomfortable .... skimming yet when he goes in the virtual world as this completely other personas completely other self which is a leader which is a ball buster understand the teaser now we venture into the main title .... one so in act one i should mention the director of the this episode when rose was a if it is an alumnus amounts or lack away was the first assistant director of what wanted to persist at rutgers on battle starting emerge is quite talented director am not sure we give them an episode if it was in season three and .... .... the woman came that they may have been his first one but he he directed several others and we brought them back for catholic and he's a really remarkable in that he's able to walk that line between being both a really talented interpreter of the story and also someone who i think captures the visual and sort .. again ........ aspects of a show like that for these he really understands that it's not just about shooting that i walk it's about the story visually and he direct about this one in the following episode eight the really is someone who is a keeper in the sort of battle star africa animals here we have a heracles now we see him again in a very different guys a very different personality emerging worries no longer this sort of shy employee you know lacking self-confidence guy but that someone who's in charge and control knows that this man needs him and is working his working and not because he's a mean-spirited or or unethical because this is an environment in which she can feel needed and can feel important and necessary and so was not just about one character helping another it's about why the character help ... but what will what what is that he's getting out on this also it's also a great opportunity to showcase that which we ..... are begun to establish episode five and continued on to the previous episode and into this one which is new cap city the game within virtual world not unlike grand theft auto or no picture example of and will see as we continue into the episode how very dim and complex that world and the doors opens up meant to mention as we get into this scene this is always a this bit .... represents me a storytelling fall tour or something ..... didn't work out which is this idea of the clarice would find amanda .. africa can based really on her belief that amanda like to go the sort of reflect upon the memorial and the the maglev train memorial that she clarice would therefore be you know happen upon it stumble into amanda and be able to manipulate her accordingly deus ex machina to the nth degree and not not storytelling tack or effort than i'm proud of but we hope labeling .. it day in the editing room i kept saying things like a year from new york me to let you know bob as it makes about as much of the now we have amanda chasing the ghost of her dead brother and again we yet we have an explanation for what it was she was seeing a wife she was seeing it that we later abandoned because we felt in a larger sense it wasn't in keeping with the tone and direction and style of show .... to make sure that since become more of is just a little bit more stakes oriented a little bit less cute for very very fond of polly walker shia is is someone who i mean i've always been sort of intrigued by this idea of the beautiful alluring female todd total number of examples of the course ... the .... ...... some basic instinct on our love by glenn close until attraction maybe it's a hangup of mine i don't know maybe it's the past something do with a much deeper darker the issue that i should be discussing on the spot .. spot the idea of a strong-willed woman of the month with multiple agendas who will on the one hand over you and seduce you money other hand really yank the rug out from the us federal this endlessly compelling to me so and how it is an amazing job and makes it so easy maybe one of the funniest moments are series right here where pericles is a sort of entertaining ........ idea because in a virtual world that should need to do whatever he wants like life and the great example of the heracles sort of you know humiliating joseph i say this because i do remember a virtual environment is .... there are no rules and guidelines and and parameters that environment and anyways played a game i don't service dungeons & dragons orifice ... craft knows that if there were no rules that would be a fun and unique parameters and boundaries in order to make it feel legitimate and that seemed the sort of the way of technology that idea and the really great ..... moment am to point out just for the geeks out there that supplement we just saw we probably spent more time trying to design the sound effects for than any other the ..... .. the end of act one back ... zeppelin for a moment it was only it wasn't until i suggested to are some effects designer daniel that she goes to a gregorian chant amongst chance basically so later and the appearance of the zeppelin so that it felt animal human or have some sort of physical organic biological quality to it but i was satisfied in him and him you know this kind of thing that we spend way too much time on the audience points by ed and probably doesn't care but also lots .... .......... here a hundred times and love every minute of speech i know somewhere in the layers of sound design is is a gregorian chant for there was a point at which i seem to recall this going away back to the story meetings we had in january of oh nine .. tahoe where the ... i could be wrong about this but i seem to remember that there were discussions about amanda and clarice having a lesbian affair now the original miniseries are sorry the result to our pilot for capital there wasn't . share between amanda and purchase burgess is now played by john parker ferguson was played by different actor in a miniseries and was since cut not because reactor for any reason other than the fact that we felt like amanda pollitt herself and i told her this because i love it about her has this very apologetically embraceable quality and a lot of the audience you know was that about first the audience doesn't like about her but i like it because it's so specific and so fearless and she's not she's not a sweetheart is not a pushover she's not the grieving mother she's got real edge to her and i think it's awesome so on top of that edge top of that abrasive sort of quality fit also have for conducting an affair and it's . marital affair with her husband .. competitor seemed like a mistake just felt like it was not now we're really asking too much of the audience she was convenient if ...... redeemable if we went down that path and so we omitted it and in our discussions of a series we got into discussing whether or not she should have an affair later and not with ....... necessarily but with someone else and it seems to me that during the course of breaking stories over the arc of season we have this relationship between a man inquiries go much further in terms of really blossoming into a full-blown love affair and not spoil anything that may be coming up next that the reality is we opted for a much more casual sort of sick just of one which for fans of xena they recognize .... can be much more rock than being over and over the university nine gabrielle in the heart of just pretending this is just thing that there might be something between them was much more hot than .. reaction in some sense of we just cruised by eia media around the way a word i don't really understand that's when the jonas pate kept saying an insured has worked in some place but basically what it means is you grab a handful of the visual and audio images and sounds and and create this the essence of the culture at large that there is putting the .... alongside all these events that we're deeply invested in is it is a culture that is alive and vital and has a source of news and twenty density crime and politics more kinds of things and end up parcels and in infomercials and beauty products and the hope being that the audience would just like in your sample without necessarily having to delve into any of the details are or have it be a story in itself would say so this is legitimate i believe in x city but that that this show was telling a story about a multidimensional detail culture and little glimpses like that i think .... fill about him and it was a great great notes on unjust to the film the series out with that of course is not represented in the pilot something we came up with later as we have the episodes here we have some additional elation she uses a ....... tm and .. ........ .... i think of where you know that's late plans don't always turn out the way you want there was a point in time where i think am we hope for or expected or planned on ..... .... kind .. developing away like i was saying about a manic least developing into a deeper more meaningful affair in the case of the man increase we went a different way because we realized we could because the tenant the the charisma between those two actresses was so strong it with all contrived to go further in this case is merely a function of not having chemistry all of these two actors are for both individually very good and certainly magnify .... is someone who i think is maybe one of the most gifted actresses .... work with but exists in their just wasn't a great deal of sparks flying in magic happening when their on-screen together there was much more between alessandra and the active place philemon one of daniels associates scientists of course those that storyline continues in future episodes but in this case the chemistry just wasn't there an and ultimately even though we continued writing to it we got .. editing pages felt like the kind of thing where we could use the relationship service story point which was that lacey 's attempt to get zoe 's robot demo on cm is going to help her by making a connection to this very mysterious bad guy named barnabas who presume we can help lacey for price but there is a but there wasn't the relationship dynamics with hope for to be a part of that story didn't really ever emerge and i said a moment ago that the final month outside relationship continues with you in a future episode and it continues later this episode and in fact is a possibly one of the things that fans about all-star might the most excited about her appreciate most because of course we have the return of the viper and or maybe it's just before i self i'm very excited about the fact we go back to bite her dogfighting and desirable but certainly by .... airplay and looking at these the visual effects which on my cutter very close to final is like getting a time machine that's really it's fun and it's it's it's interesting to because you know we shut this whole scene and we didn't have the any of the inserts of zoe 's hand on the throttle to help tell the story about her struggle to keep the the viper and airborne and soon avoid collision and so forth and so i believe we went back to season maybe with season three maybe it was the scar in which we we have a lot of cockpit action with terrace race before she's unceremoniously blown up and at all the stuff you see in the cockpit of the so we struggle with joystick is actually footage from bouncer galactica with him whoever's hand was doubling starbucks and so here we have a heracles who is .. entire ego and then his escape from his doldrums life is predicated on his existence in the world and a new cap city yanked away from him in the blink of an eye because of joseph's carelessness and sloppiness and so because the rules of the show posteriorly in the back to because the rules of the show once you die and you tested each income that pericles is now loss this wonderful outlet this wonderful vehicle for his other persona the one that makes him feel meaningful and important and so he's of course enraged and the area quite a turning point in the show in terms of zoe 's agenda was always after and what she hopes to accomplish in his relationship with philemon file ....... . straight ms sees him hoping that by working both both angles both having lacey attempt to get her robot body out of the lab by soliciting this mysterious character barnabas and by working philemon her father 's associate one way or the other she will persuade the powers that be to get that robot body out of the lab and to this place called .... which is a planet within the within their sources and why the robot needs to get this gem on what the significance is about a wide so we careful that of course are all story points that we info with varying degrees of success i think begin answering subsequent episodes but what's important this one is that zoe is is born because the one hand she wants this man to help her to compromise his own professional relationship with her father in his own standing as a scientist to do something but maybe you shouldn't do at the same time or so is having feelings for him and him and like someone is feeling like a woman again this film likes like a human being and as a great opportunity for us to play with that idea of bomb zoe being at once not human because she's just ones and zeros and yet having the memories and having the desires of the girl of woman and wanting to explore and fulfill those and so his element attracted to a real she's a bed that she sworn because she has these yearnings and these emotions that that also is you can never really i was like this because some amanda offhandedly makes a remark about the sea box finkelstein daniels team and get out any guy sports ...... things about the woman sports into ... sports about it being enough force to and pollen outcomes insulted so that's only racing you really really powerful scene in that daniels confronting amanda about the fact that she has secret friend and seems to me that in and in most you know dramas that you might see this tv shows this is a scene that would inevitably sort of resolve itself when it in a fight or in some demand that you know your spouse pass up for or you know searching for some kind of resolution answer and yet instead he sets it except that she maybe she does have a secret and maybe there are things he doesn't know or that she's not telling them work maybe there is someone else and he gets . ..... she doesn't take the bait and i think it away it's one of the reasons why amanda continues to love him because she knows that some pc strong for that he won't he wants show his belly is not going to just roll over on and demonstrators and security because she's cheated out that now a lot of men can do the postman with a man ! but this is make-believe and ... elusive you know we it within the good of the as a shows of all we've had a number of discussions and debates with ourselves and with the network about these transitions into and out of the world have spoken about them periodically on the podcast that this idea that when ...... intercutting the world which is overseeing i was only in philemon with matt the natural world we need some kind of transition to alert the audience okay this is one world this is one reality and was another and so we did develop a device and we assign rules to it which we been fairly consistent with which is that if you see a character putting on a hologram you have this sort of digital crumble for the image breaks apart any going to get into a interview world and when you don't see a character physically putting on a hologram you're going to begin an act or just dart into a scene that happens the virtual world you'll have the different device which is what i call this of red blood cell total however once the device is been established within the act meaning before there is a commercial break on either side of commercial break we want the freedom to just be able to intercut because otherwise you're going to be drowning in digital crumbles and red blood cells of the you lose track of the drama you fall out of the of the emotion because you're you're too caught up in these visual devices intended to you know communicate something so here in this active good example of what i'm talking about which is that just were worth going back and forth between scenes without spoon feeding to the audience okay now your real-world entire virtual world new cassidy etc. and hopefully the the devices have been established early enough that they work .. may not give up struggling to keep track of where you are this was also a turning point episode in that i feel like we finally nailed down the transition device from speaking transitions from the robot sue alessandra within the context of the scene from and and my rules of always been that you if ... .. ... seen which were intercutting the physical robot the mechanistic silent with the actress with zoe that we begin with the robot that we can start a scene in which we just shows a way that we've got a bill to establish a language that says there's a robot in the room and then later in the scene we say and yet within the robot is this and this was the episode right felt like we finally took this stuff episodes to get there a lot of trial and error a lot of pickups three c there are a lot of pickups but ultimately i think we we nailed down on this one and from this point on the interchangeability of robot versus oh it became pretty sweet family covenant without a great deal of discussion and debate and in a lot of ways release and some troublesome fights about the fact lengths of the show for those interested i mean metal star was a show that was broken into keyser plus four acts and that was always the template for the structure of a television program ... nbc at door and it's very us and sundry networks and i'm some point during the course about thirty change it to add her to subtract show material in a more commercial obviously for the add brother and they change it to teaser plus five and we successfully argued that we should be grandfathered in because we begun as a teaser plus four and they gave us that exception we were able to maintain that wealthy subaccount of faith with that exception anymore and so that a lot of the arguments and discussions and notes about editing these episodes are rooted in how long and at this and there's a rule about acts must be five minutes long and and yet as a creative filmmaker leslie want to do is cut your show by slide rule you know that there was also later and said okay it's been five minutes now we can have access you want the act outs to feel meaningful and so the tremendous struggle making the adjustment to a five excerpt from the show because i can only manufacture and manipulating tribe so many cliffhangers to get the audience to come back and it's one the reasons why think more more people were just forgoing watching broadcast collision on tv at all and just waiting for dvd error tivoing it or what have you this is where we served apart so back into amanda storyline and involving her brother and beginning to introduce this idea that perhaps clarice is going to take what she's learning and and and discovering about amanda 's history in about her weaknesses about herbal ability and exploit it for her own gain and of course we'll will see later how she does this but it's really less about the specifics of amanda 's story is not necessarily the clarice is going to do anything about her brother about ...... .. brother about this pacific nature for from a as massive as it is about just generally taking advantage of the fact that the man is promised us that amanda is hunted the man is going through something can be anything the matter and that therefore she's right for being taken advantage of she's weekend she's regarded down and she's in need of some kind of personal touch saw someone to tell her that everything is okay and went once clarice knows that that's what amanda needs she preys on and of course he doesn't smile and the sexy glamour and with the wonderful sense of reassurance and it's the thing osaka met earlier that's awesome because she's she's just evil and answers using what she knows to her granite is an example of a big act out debate because the best ... out for this particular act was several moments ago when joseph suddenly caught off guard with a knife to his neck but by ending the act that point it rendered back for two short for the five minute minimum and so we had to extend it has to point into this material which is okay him and i'm not that miserable about it but it's not as good it would've been better to end the act on the ..... ...... and said we we somewhat artificially extended into this the way deeper in the scene where now we have another four and you know it's it's it's perfect lien works out well but it's it's not organically it's not what you would naturally go back to this dive bar much beyond this episode it's it was a great location and a great idea this this notion that the clarice retreats to drug candidates in a way is example of what i was talking earlier about this softer kind of more idiosyncratic idea okay with ....... ... she's the headmistress and she's the leader of the soldiers of the one and yet she's got you know guinness is involved in the and polygamy and she's got a rough evidence these are all things which are nice colors but we will we really were basing the character on those ideas and anna as the episodes of sort of evolved in a series of all we gave clarice a much firmer more vital and kind of proactive agenda and suddenly there wasn't as much room for she's got several husbands and wives shoelace give high which are cute and nice than the forty two minute change episode tv where you want to start building up stakes and building up suspense in jeopardy if the circuits and characters from the drive that includes became in subsequent episodes and main force behind larger ideas in an bigger agendas and suddenly you don't have room for as much of this stuff i don't think it makes the character any less interesting certainly having built this into her character gives her some interesting color in some depth in some some history and texture but i think in subsequent episodes of audience two be more engaged by this character certainly because the actress was off because ..... is so awesome but but there is more to her in other the start to relate to a larger agenda and understand okay just like number six and i'll start she's got some spirited and not understand ... way it and that's what you want seems to be about and and scenes of purchasing a high you .... .... as interesting once you know what it is she's off here we got the manipulation sort of slamming into a new year at a new year whereof clarice with every fiber of her being is convincing manner that she's her friend that she can be trusted that amanda can talk the truth and that amanda 's okay and all the things that you know the devil would do not scare you not threaten you not make you feel afraid but the opposite is still totally legally safe michael ...... cast .... actress to play manual we refer to as the loop because .......... group and she winds up playing a meaningful role in future episodes is awfully good salon my favorite things in the show this this extends back to i know we have this conversation and talk about because it was such a wonderful idea and i wish i could give credit to whoever came up with it wasn't me but the idea that the dog were some much earlier episode the idea of the dog smells oh eight and the robot and that daniel .. he continues to struggle with what you wondering what happened and why is zoe the robot anymore where did she go with why this robot unique and a lot of things that you know on some level it's start to break down and start making as much sense as you want them to make of the episodes go forward and eventually we we has to so don't worry but you will elect the ....... of ..... as far as the audience is saying do ........ ...... .. stop talking his first and finally by episode seven we get this place we could use this idea of the dog knowing she's there and of course you know anyone seen lassie knows that you can't fool all and so finally daniel sources for himself but maybe the very thing receives so convinced could possibly be the case is the case with zoe is still embedded in the robot and that all of his feudal searching has been enough for something like business and so we have one oh seven looking very much forward to the next couple episodes of think the think everybody at every watching is going to be surprised at all the right ways and the listening

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hello governor david i hear is a producer of the show in the new york city where i'm about to join the i'm avalon moore for a panel at the ...... ...... which some of you who listen to these may affect the attending at the message boards are accurate last night were here doing a presentation panel for the press and a lot of which is being written about today's been quite a exciting and this weekend but i am and will be here to talk about episode one oh eight i wanted michael taylor and others to join me for this podcast but we have you know are our travel schedules couldn't align .. ....... jeannie next week for the new season finale one oh nine which he also wrote this episode was the second one directed by wayne roosevelt ...... alumnus who i did some great workforce on that show went on this one as well and we block shot these two episodes of seven which was on last weekend and my weight ... together as one which is a common technique when you're trying to use economies of scale maximize your production values and especially your face and a a challenging budget which we which we do on the show him the episode is remarkable to me in that it is a member said that suddenly last week as well and it sort of represents for me where the shows are to find itself in terms of tone and and is the content of the storylines i think we started finally get to it and there is there's a tendency at the very early episodes to drift a bit primarily to attempt to address and service every single storyline it just didn't occurred was that you could do it any other way that he had in oh five different you maintain storyline that you would need at least a scene of each one of them even if some took on more prominent others and the truth is you else and i and kevin murphy who we recruited from desperate housewives and many of ... ratios to join the show around this time is later than this but he certainly we were beginning to figure out for ourselves it was a problem and he really helped reinforce the visceral commandment that the you you needn't service every storyline every week and in fact that makes for better drama and for richer stories and the ability to get deeper into the characters of the really delve into the areas you wouldn't have time this just from that you would have time to work .. a cutaway to service him and or or what have you at five if you're sticking with that principle the service of characters which we don't anymore is also the episode which i really begins to i think of push the character lazy into a very interesting direction barnabas who was abolition i was played by very very popular after ... show i won't name because it's a competitor actually lots of them personally rendering parsers and that we're talking a ...... ... about joss wheaton today emily really sensational job he's done pumping battle * you know he was a fan of it and the few times i've correspond with them he's always been so gracious and that he certainly has had the chocolate is a success it means a lot coming from him but in any event getting back to lazy and barnabas really began to feature lacing a different light and it's it's it's sort of this episode is one of the springboards for where that goes in and it really launches into a new gear in the in the back half of the of the season but it starts introduced entirely new colors to who she is and that she's not just a desperate friend of the failed zoe who is you know you think she can't repay the debt but in fact she may have her own agenda and that agenda is the sort of forged in the site handful episode this week next week and then and really as we get into the game of the first batch of the following group which i don't know whether when air we've been asked that question a lot i should know the lapierre go we got this one after episode nine before it comes back with some it's the second half not a huge fan of this been very forthright with the ever one of the network about if it's a functional programming is a function of real estate i guess or how they had planned to spread out the show and having worked briefly at the network i i understand that the same time i think of for a show that needs to take advantage of of its growing support the episodes get better the press really really positive about it just seems like him that it seems unfortunate to me .. really going off the air right when it feels like ...... .... starting to create when we hit our stride and that's the end of the teaser slide back into the main title .. ....... ...... mental assignments beautiful piece of .... her out last night i was mentioning an insight as well we screen the one oh eight and one oh nine so for those of you listening to this podcast rapid be in your city and attend the paley center event tonight you will seen one on ...... have even firmer idea what i'm talking about but am back to back .. one away from they often times i feel like we sort of threw together a in the story room this concept of new cap city not really understanding it as much as we probably should've we decided .. ..... committing ourselves to storylines featuring it and at the say it is one of the happy accidents of ........ mother was entire open entirely inadvertent but just that i feel like what what we explore a new cap both the commode visual standpoint and also emotional stem what this character .... with all my experiences and learns about himself much of which becomes very prominent and in the episode follow this one is it would been impossible without this conceit i have to pause here because the .......... just flew overhead was something that was torturing me on the dub stage i couldn't find a sound that liked enough until i recommend it to our sound effects editor to try to find a monk or gregorian chant to the layer into given .... of ominous hast and and and sort of looming dark quality and at really works great very happy that anyway is a new cat city is is one of the things i think this came together and really useful and in compelling way as we exported as we continue to advance through the episodes the rules became clear to us what characters ... experience while there became clear how avatars work became clear to just it just all kind of came together the way it was supposed to and i i will say that we have all figured out the beginning but that wasn't the case so i decided to use the bit in the am previous podcasts that we work that i would discuss this week what the original intent was with this sort of haunting storyline with amanda and what we wound up with an part of what we part why we wound up what we have now that was a function of pragmatic realities like how much stuff can you fit in the forty two minute episode and so on and part of the guy came together because ........ unlike new cap city supply started with that sometimes ideas the sound of the time that he as you continue to explore another continue to investigate and pursue don't work so the original idea was that burgess in an attempt to get at daniel and his promise and believe in episode one oh six destroy everything he loves all have to give when rose ... this shot this transition from the robust length of the does .. was bar is just wonderful to relate a clever way of telling the story that is a girl ..... a robot thomas burgess was an effort to destroy record to make good on that promise begins with the team with with the of the capital buccaneers ....... team and continues with an attempt to retrieve the chip that daniel stole them and the account with the government that dana was secured really knows that he wants to her daniel of the thing he's got a target is daniel 's wife and it bears pointing out the sort of ironically in the highways we had a whole storyline featuring amanda and an affair with the of the character name purchase that the unit was taking place during the events the pilot ever number reasons that that was the vernacular and and the chemistry wasn't great and we felt like amanda cheating on daniel was maybe one dark and sordid thing to many of them in a storyline like this that we omitted it in and went a different direction but this idea burgess going at amanda seems or look . distant cousin of that notion that maybe they had a pastor limited in something between one again we don't really explore this in the episode but what ultimately happened was it was thomas burgess who was i found the look-alike found some sort of doppelgänger of amanda 's brother and was placing this guy at events and during moments where you thought it would haunt at a management point of driving her insane and that in so doing he would basically in one when one where another robin his is the enemy daniel of the thing he most loves the one thing the he loves that he has left and ...... those ideas you go okay will on the face of it it's sort of absurd but whole on second we so .. are going to a soap was alluring to do you know where to really embrace what that meant and in soap operas nutty things happening you go with it and you accept that there are different rules and that reality is in kind of the indictable holder and then realism and what actually happened and so we decided after a lot of discussion and not an and not a little debate internally that we would try and so we did and what we found was that the show had been evolving faster than we have been keeping track of it had become more reality based and have become more realistic performances the emotion that things were taking place despite all the science-fiction spectacle and an and speculative aspects of the story and things occasionally happen that it's not like we're doing camp there something very accessible and naturalistic about the style the show which is as much more like battle started we've even intended and so suddenly this idea of a guy who defined the look-alike place in the places were amanda would see him within the litigation of those places just in time before she has canceled to do a double take and it could all be manipulated manipulated perfectly in such a way to drive a man insane this seemed ... .. court ..... to come full circle and seemed ridiculous again and so what did it was ridiculous and was actually quite consistent with what amanda 's characters going through is this idea that the loss of her daughter reignites in her the memory of of another very deeply personal loss and one that she felt guilty responsible for which was brother and and the bath and that is not anymore .... .... that it's really about how the this woman is being is surrounded by death and his is tortured by her memories and through the slightest the encouragements if you will by clarice on to to pursue these memories are to delve deeper into them or to really assess yourself with them amanda begins to really suffer and then we'll see to what extent but it's it definitely differently go the good news is all that was required was the omission of the explanation seems of how all this happened and things that some of which were shot some of which we cut before they were shot but none of which will be in the show got so there is the story of amanda and her haunting and with hopefully not too many spoilers as are obviously punchlines to come on that front and it's part of the adventure doing television shows you as i keep saying you use her work as you go when the things that we've been discussing a visual effects front is the fact that virtual world i wasn't happy and i wasn't tortured poses a little annoyed with the final look of the bikers in one oh seven not because they were bitching and awesome uncle i was thrilled that we have and i wish i could give credit to whose idea was that was thrilled that we had an opportunity and an excuse to put vipers in the show and it seemed like a lot of people once they heard that were really excited about it as well however calm and this is unfair to gary hutzler visual effects supervisor who place as i told him i gave him this complaint you don't ... never hears anything when everything is perfectly okay there's something one of the one shot out of a hundred that isn't exactly what i want but vm there's a conceit in virtual world that it said it's an almost pristine a stick and span society that it is a sterility to it because artificial and that things therefore might be allowed to look a little bit less texture or worn or realistic in my issue with the microsoft but it looks to me that even the final shot for talking times it is time to approve before they're on the year there are number of approval processes with all the effects shots but often times or delivering the finals after you given your notes a right of the shows about the air so uses you get another bite at the apple and i just felt they were ... ........ into cleaner .... ......... and so we spent a lot of today talking to the fact that in in the virtual world although there is the conceit of artifice because it is a videogame of sorts i suppose we want to maintain a sense that users of hollow bands do so because of the world they can escape into is a realistic and is so or inability therefore to pretend to be other people tend to do things he would never do in life is enhanced by how realistic it is pointed out because it's interesting that a new cap city the conceit is different the conceit is that this is this is a good culture that's no consolation hammering away at each other firing guns dropping bombs shooting missiles all kinds nasty stuff so things look little more worn and weathered messy and of acts whatever that was in eureka with the beginning of whatever the next actors as i access over some details via the transition we just saw heading into this act what i call the blood cell total as i may have mentioned before is a transition that we used to get the audience make the audience aware that were entering into one environment for another of virtual space whether it's the world or whether his new cap city so it's assisted to the ...... .. cable were not you know in proper we are now entering a virtual environment however we also wanted to make a distinction we we we is the blood cell total for when we don't have you dancing a character put on hold and that uses a transitional bridge when we do have that piece we use what by ....... crumble which is the kind of descendents of what jeff weiner did in the pilot to take us into the world so those you paying really close attention .. when we see a character hold them visitors will crumble the screens were ...... pardonable pieces and intakes and virtual world when you don't see a character i'll abandon we just need to get the virtual world you'll see a red blood cell leslie and painfully close attention you build and find places where we screw up where we usually forget or when we maybe artist systems what the think we're why i really submit back to your couples work i really love the him that it do visual approach to the rising that i really driven the sound editors as well as a sensational job coming up with that work the kind of flaherty sound that accompanies the ..... but i just think am i just think conceptually it's really tight in our he just you see it's like you see though the wire model underneath the avatar and and the right colors sort of ...... something biological and the flashing is it the sort of suggest that there is a little struggled to maintain its it's physicality but that the struggle the auditor succeeds or fails and assistance really a smart way of conveying a whole bunch of ideas in a really simple looking shot figure we have clarice counseling footsie with the amanda in terms of keeping the hook in her mouth and ensuring that she amanda remains fixated on this quest that she's on in the and i'm the writings was fun because you never have queries cannot say anything you never have her push you never have her overtly or transparently suggest anything or propose anything ..... very subtle and and you know it if if you know that she's working .. angle becomes a really interesting scene ideologies working .. ..... almost the hits of the seven different conversation about what you're not sure so if it's interesting is the just way to approach this in forensic iso here we have we were talking about this last night it's good place to reiterate this am a member the audience woman for tv guide .... really thought-provoking questions she said i love the show i can't stop watching it i can't miss an episode i keep waiting for someone to tell me who turbulence was room for hand which reminded me of the of the any whole joke this was usually terrible and such small portions of it was sort of like she was clutching that there was this thing that the bother her in it whatever that thing was clearly was keeping coming back which which is a good thing however the answer that is is related has relationship to what we do in the scene which is standby that i think people who follow val starr heard me say more than once which is we want we always wants the audience we ask themselves through the right side and this is a case in point where we we look to so the roots of being a person 's character much of which reside in him mary shelley 's frankenstein and how an ..... .... the agenda or objective can become morally corrupt and in the process but destroy something good about the man and here we have it was a wonderful love sort two anecdotally anyway talk about what a great actor eric stoltz as eric called me or e-mail me a think the male group of us when he got the script and was very concerned about the scene this scene in which she basically is torturing his daughter and he was really alarmed by it he didn't think it would serve the pointless post to and his is it i wish i still had it i would read it because his summary was i'm coming off like a madman and this was an example of what make eric so rare i wrote him back and said exactly if .. that's what this ordeal is done to you and and we want to push you to the brink we really want to push the character all the weighted average and have the audience awake ... whole a second i thought this guy was the hero i thought he was the good guy eons i'm rooting for him against these other interests i don't want birds to get them i don't want visitor heard them i don't want as likely amount on your i why want his daughter to come back and now you're telling me he's he's gone in to do things that i find reprehensible and immigrant circles back to the anyway eric 's response to my saying yes this will want to want push year was so rare causes is we never hear from actor he just basically dime said you know what i totally get it your absolute right and now i can see it and i really i think is awesome and the reason why say is so rare as it traditionally speaking the experience would be more along the lines of the actor having already made up his or her mind that there was something inherently wrong with the material and therefore you're pointing out an alternative point of view ... forward-looking editor for expressing it is sort of the material could mouth about ..... he go when they've automated decision about something and then wanted to talk something of a decision about an man eric just is so far from that that place he just it's all about the work it's all about whether it's good or cool or interesting or smart and just didn't didn't seem to have any regard at all for the fact that he is agreeing after express himself so strongly would would make anyone think any less of them in fact it made everybody who jesus is was what this is what you want call sheet it really so it is a great point to discuss what a pro eric is but also circling back to vm tv guide woman it's it's what makes interesting drama to me is is it what makes a single enemy is not the guy with the white habit of black at its it's the villain or that the antagonist is that a really reasonable point of view and an entirely you know empathetic mo and and a hero or a good guy who's deeply and and and and are a you know is is guilty of of petty emotions and why is and and dishonesty in and is someone who in spite of himself overcomes so that's that's what's interesting to me and it's a european event in your beginning anyone that's what's interesting to me and and i think it's it strikes viewers sometimes as am as shocking and disorienting because it's done so when frequently on television the movies good movies anyway all the time but mtv in a you have house in over your ear that that their organ networking the house whose grumpy and i'm not trying to this house but i don't think of him as as as that is the same kind when the same way that i'm talking about daniel greystone i think everyone knows how's the good guy everyone knows he's the missing patient at the end of one knows he's assertive like ebenezer scrooge and to give him a big enough hug until softened and is not this is not as interesting to me again these are all subjective opinions obviously and cable you got examples for rate rate ranging from the vic mackey to tony soprano on and everything in between and out nurse jackie is is getting the sum of that area of the anti- heroic protagonists of the heroes we root for in spite of some really dark twisted screwing crazy things that they do and i love that's becoming more prominent iowa but audiences are sort of becoming in a accustomed to that as a storytelling device so that i thrown for such a loop when they see it but i think maybe what what separates battle strikeout even from those shows i mentioned a sopranos and the shield that that is when madmen and others is that the the area of moral gray is harder even harder to decipher it's one thing to say okay guys a killer the guys from imola guys get no antisocial bad guy and yet i like them ...... is funny and ... a family and i relate to we don't go that far were were were really stuck more in the middle of them then to go to those extremes of your corrupt cop who beats the hell out of people and seems to take a sadistic pleasure in it is is very clearly not a good person so that when from a storytelling standpoint you get into finding ways to relate to him it's one kind of exercise that servicers saying a ... we flip it .. one cap account anyway were not forbid on you per se worse returning it by quarter turns were saying cheating is a really good guide and most of the time and cost just seems like he easily has a the violence treatment maybe he's really just in pain and then and they're not there not as the swings are not as polar in terms when you see .. soa simians and i think that makes it more complicated and makes it may be a little more offputting to some people were difficult because it's neither traditional nor overtly anti- traditional at some something stranger in the middle and it's very much on purpose and it's not for everybody but certain it is one big way in which i think m bell start share the you know a dna link because they they both have that those aspects of another controversial story point is the introduction or leave the presence anyway this episode of . character who is a cross-dressing drag queen cabaret site now when i say cross-dressing drag queen cabaret singer i might as well be saying michael taylor .. .... .... up with something like that so that when i was watching the episode with ron last night when this scene came up with what we walk in the michael galindo ..... taylor .... .... he .... he smiled and said yes and this and i know means i mean that the criticism this is such a nutty idea that some units is a certain kind of brain the stuff now and where maybe i part company will ....... michael and which are sure to remind me of when i see you next week is letting a little of it goes a long way he has a much higher threshold for ... night if this guy was the episode started with him about the script the episode started with him he became of effectively the greek chorus of the of the episode continuing to comment on me on on the emotional arc was happening with joseph's story and it just got to be some bananas bananas is my friend john mcenroe would say so we instead it carved into and again even if it was the most brilliant stuff you ever seen a gay forty two minutes and change order the stupid rhyme like you think these are now this was a room to continue to feature the sky so i thing worked out for the best he has sorted his set piece he's funny he's crazy weird is actually quite good factor i i i i commend wayne and jonas paid for finding ... but it and our ........ is of course but him he's the ....... looking ....... way he's awfully mean to joseph i guess that's why i like it because you are what i like about it was he's just there isn't there is the slightest hint or gesture of deference or remorse or any acknowledgment whatsoever about the fact this man is obviously desperately looking for his daughter not for some chicks to bang his daughter ends like no one cares that one else .... as any sympathy for not all there was a slight gas and it it it sort of am a way of speaking to the dynamics of this world that no one knows who's telling the truth no one knows who anyone really looks like this guy could be saying .... looking for his daughter were maybe really is looking for a piece of * or maybe this guy is really a girl sitting somewhere with alabama is looking for another character eaters don't know what the real story isn't so why would anyone take the time nor the or the eddie energy to express any kind of genuine feeling when so little about this world is genuine and of course what we the audience knows the keys he is a genuine character and he is genuinely an an an an an a very desperate lacey seeking his daughter and so we're alone in our regard for him and i think it tightens us the character it brings us closer to him because other than is his sidekick easily really want to understand there is a of a lot of tech tamra the actress was tamara 's name please forgive me a good autumn from me and really only met briefly on the highway she shut her scenes in the series elizabeth .. the end of an act and the beginning of the exact i wasn't there so i didn't get to know her well but ... her storyline was intended even more and and the and with more things to do with zoe and we give get to that place in subsequent episodes primarily in the and the first batch of the for sample episodes of the next group that is running things we're planning to do in in new cap city in particular that we just you know as a function of time and space to get around so we do a lot of searching for for tammy without terribly great deal of time being spent with her lease again in these earlier episodes and the it was my hope that the audience stays with it and and you know she's the ......... again find by the way he said that visit did that in ...... we had color but that i white thing that's not a gag he did ..... that crazy but there is also a function i love this visual effects of two pairs all the residents from him also function again of the having so many characters in such a rich tapestry that you can service all and then this was an example having in a more ideas ....... good ideas then we could service and in the case of ... ..... are certainly once the show establish itself only a pretty fair since it was to be returning in a year after year we were able to good ideas that we loved her that we were excited about it we have room for m sables use that next seasonal .... that is the finale something with a later and in a show like africa were we just don't know it's fate yet we don't really have enough history behind this with the show to beulah say okay let's save that for later try to use everything you have and then so silly and so we know we let a second season and that were on our way that that tends to be the case you don't leave anything on the table is a say so sort which parties are the there are times when we just can't for as a as a function of running life which is as people who listen to these .... probably my my most frequent right there is that what one of the few i attended speaker think in terms of having a very harmonious relationship with the network and we do mean we we fight like cats and dogs sometimes but we really in ultimately i think the same show and having just just have the experience of handing in the finale which i was very proud of and really excited about a kind of terrified by the reaction because we really do some some risky things in the finale and not all of which were necessarily preapproved before we went ahead and and shop them i was i was nervous about the reaction because i i was so pleased with it and i just didn't ..... to do if we were in and of having a problem and that to their credit they are in here blue about any of things i was concerned there were to be concerned about so that that's a testament to a much better producer network dynamic and you tend to see in this business however one area where we definitely do not agree is adr automated dialogue replacement when you are in need of the story point to be clarified or some idea to be clarified and you cut around someone's back and you hear them as their jaws are flapping saying some other line from another take spoonfeed her do some urging the explainer dialogue that told the audience just a girl that we lost the parlor number and i hate it i i always hear it over the sound quality is even the best mixers is always really parents me and a it it's just a tool that i think is really a reason tv and the tortures me and i become much more dug in against it than i should because it's a very useful tool limits in a can be used effectively and i've certainly use it because i needed to or wanted to but that's becoming sort of my cause célèbre will you know i don't i'm on so and so the again prepared for notes asking me to do a lot of explaining ideas on people 's backs with would wait with .... a quarter dialogue that i i tend to preemptively say no unfortunately the one the start of the show eric stoltz is probably as vehemently puts with the up and so if i ever really flight them in a jam i know holds a sort of the not do as good a job abc should not the average user the special but he certainly has expressed himself when he thought he was recording dialog was actually unnecessary so the scene had a slightly different quality to it and i am trying to write what point in episode seven eight nine we began to reveal the burgess may have some hand in the haunting that was taking place with amanda site i don't remember exactly if it by this scene we gain any sense of that but certainly you know i've seen you might reflect on later it would have a different quality to a different emphasis if you issuers learn that okay burgess was you know this was gaslighting her and that instead now on the scene i think is much more effective because it's point is far more interesting and pertinent than whatever that contrived subtext might've been in this point is simply a lady your husband is a murderer and thief and i thought you should know that and that's such a powerful pungent strong idea such a strong point for scene that you have compromised was some whole other sub textual agenda that you also were trying to juggle what does we can so i'm happy i continue to be happy that we were was reminded last night that the says this is the will of the controversial scene am ........ .... ... .. you listen the colors of the episode this is seen in which of course in his effort to draw his daughter out of the robot daniel instructs the robot to shoot the dog figuring knowing how much you love the dog in and and the fact that she would want to shoot the dog that would be a way of drawing her out reviewing the robot of the resources visited in the original version and i don't know if by that i mean script or story discussion the room or i don't ever i was ever in a cut but i just don't number when it changed .......... and as i recall of them act out to shoot the dog five four three two one boom dead dog act out that was sort of on the category of the having your here is the even reprehensible ways guy category were discussing earlier but i actually don't mind that in the course of their was the you know obviously there was an uproar in the network in and you can't do this and this is awful in and so we we didn't we changed it and i thought the change work i didn't think actually think that the way it was shot the way wayne directed has a great deal to do with why it works because as we get to hear there is a visit pan over and then thundered silver boom down for the sass reveal that you just yet every time i see it it works as a surprise i don't think the audience is coming i don't agree audience has a built-in explanation for what they'll happen a week ... blanks of it as she shot anyway in the squeal you here is the dog being afraid and etc. etc. but all i i just think it's one of those things that more often than not doesn't quite work it doesn't quite recomputed the way he wanted to and this is one of those times reflected that i thought that the ruse works and i think you don't see coming in i galloped away wayne revealed visually now comes ....... this scratch .. with this blog clearly responding to his trainer off camera her trainer the female dog off off-camera and ... made to look like it's a sort of looking quizzically at the robotlike labeling that gun robot though i would've loved to meet lassie yet to set the sound design is great because ...... .... ... squeal of course are . cry for she shot it runs the pan until the were talking about where .... ....... like this getting so i'm out i was very please with this was a then and i wasn't the and i i certainly loved it when you're talking about really being gruesome with a two for completely different reasons but i think we get a get out of jail free card from the audience were not actually the okay that's imminent the beginning of i believe the last act words outside earlier about some of the reactors and yell over the weekend last weekend night the builder preparatory work for season two catholic and looking at working with jonas pate on on discussing some of the things that i think some areas of my want to explore and .. .. and maybe in some ways tethering it back to battle star mate maybe finding one element or character or idea that the links is the back ballast arnold will do more direct way don't know yet will see all early days and it would be nice to know that we have a second season before even spinning spinning my wheels much more on it but in so doing my homework i was going back and reviewing some of the later episodes of bowel start from season three in season four and again on and course all sorts of feelings come up even though that hasn't been that long since we made the shows it's a little bit like your visiting your your college or or singable friend and that it it was beyond the you know the effect of the storytelling in and what i thought of the of all the ideas and in how we ended season three and how we in the season of the series and so forth but he was related people i mean i i i would like just thought how much i miss that he and mary and i ..... your firing off e-mails to james and jamie and they probably thought i was crazy with like doing but it's it is as i watch captain doing these podcasts i i get a lot of the same feeling that you know be shows are always on its ..... .. .... to say but if you're lucky and you don't always get lucky sometimes a miserable but but the bit that if you get lucky their families and avenue you grow close to the people involved in and you develop a real affection for them and they they occupy a place in your mind i mean there is something about eddie that i ice i always project a certain paternal quality to emily me know if i'm having a problem oftentimes all all give it a call drop an e-mail or even if i don't all think about what he would say about something is been in the business along he knows a lot about you give me advice before and the and likewise i think is as we continue with catholic ... continue closer these characters that the sensors of things will happen and so knocking on wood and off i go the paley center and for those new yorkers listening i'll see you there

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hello one ten podcasts of the anderson's have vanquished to the motley crew this time you have it i is a loser and eric so the director and weaver director roman ......... and my mom is .... and why this was a sadist because it might .... unseemly ......... said i feel like this is probably one of the most stylistically interesting and compelling directed episodes of really unique thing for a those of you who are students of the form of crap ......... you .. see a lot of moves a lot of the telltale signs of the director who's really interested in visual storytelling is a lot of a great ..... is a course that i find it a all too often they can forget the movies and television is visual and tell stories with pictures as much as you and i think eric has you tell that and i'm really grateful that he is more you can season slipping in and locked her in .... .. ....... .... difficult i never met my trailer i know my life i stimulated a great view on ....... ...... on on anyone i have seen 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