Talk:Caprica (series)/Archive 1

1. Is this for real?
2. If this is in the same continuity as the re-imagined series, we won't need a separate namespace for it. --Peter Farago 01:51, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

On the first, it looks it, but, like most people, I'm more inclined to believe things I like.

I almost posted the second on Quorum, but I decided it was a conclusion we'd all come to anyway. I'm glad I was at least partially right. --CalculatinAvatar 01:56, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Actually, thinking it through some more, it might be handy to have a namespace for a new series - particularly for projects like the screencap categorization. I'll have to think on how they should coexist. --Peter Farago 02:00, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Just for clarity, you cannot mean an actual namespace like Battlestar Wiki, Podcast, or Sources, since RDM and TOS use the same one. Assuming you mean something like the use of "RDM" as a parenthetical disambiguation term, I disagree. It should never be necessary to disambiguate between RDM and Caprica if they share a continuity. In fact, I think TOS/Caprica name conflicts should be resolved with RDM, as Ronald D. Moore is the creative force behind Caprica, too; it would also avoid a problem if something is mentioned first in Cparica, then in RDM.

I think a category would be sufficient for screen capture organization. (It's clearly necessary, anyway.) --CalculatinAvatar 02:09, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Yes, I meant the parenthetical suffix. What we have now is, for example, "Screen Captures (TOS)", "Screen Captures (1980)" and "Screen Captures (RDM)". The reason (1980) and (TOS) are separate is that there are numerous other continuities that branch off of TOS and don't include 1980, a concern that wouldn't be relevant for RDM and "Caprica". However, wouldn't we want a category such as "Screen Captures (Caprica)" that would be distinct from "Screen Captures (RDM)"? That's why a parenthetical designation separate from "RDM" might be useful. --Peter Farago 02:13, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

That's the category I meant. Category:CAP should probably just be Category:RDM, barring a desire to keep track of things mentioned in the re-imagined series only or Caprica only. Category:Episode Guide (CAP) would suffice for episode pages, which would also be in Category:RDM to indicate continuity, not series. --CalculatinAvatar 02:20, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

I think this is horribly confusing. The best thing would be to have separate abbreviations for the current series and the RDM universe as a whole, but I don't exactly feel like going through the entire wiki, moving articles, categories and links. --Peter Farago 02:23, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Not only is it real, when I saw the first rumor I immediately took it to the "Talk to Mrs.Ron" thread, and asked. She asked Ron, who within 30 minutes responded that yes, he had already publicly pitched it to ScifiChannel and the news sites weren't making it up and it wasn't a rumor. Talk about fan-base connection! Secondly Peter, we do need a template if only for the episodes: I mean Next Generation and Deep Space Nine are in the same continuity, share several characters and even have crossover episodes, but we still use "TNG" and "DS9" stuff to sort the two out. I mean one day they might have a "Caprica" episode called "Resistance". So we have RDM "Resistance" and CAP "Resistance". It's just a convention to use for episode naming really. I mean when Galactica shows up in "Caprica" it'll be the same ship, and we'll still call it "Galactica (RDM)", yes, but "CAP" would be mostly an episode thing. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 02:02, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

I sincerely hope they never give an episode the same name, but I suppose it's possible. I suggest not using " (CAP)" unless that forces it, and, even then, restricting it to that specific usage. --CalculatinAvatar 02:11, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Well, most series tend to wind up using 3 letter abbreviations after a while. And yeah even TNG had "The Emissary (TNG)" not to be confused with the pilot episode of Deep Space Nine, "The Emissary (DS9)".--The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 02:14, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Abbreviation

For templating and just basic shorthand, we need an abbreviation we'll officially use for this series, just as The Next Generation is TNG, The Original Series is TOS, and Ron D. Moore's Battlestar Galactica is RDM. I think CAP would good. Any objections?--The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 02:12, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

"Caprica" in full looks better and doesn't take much longer to type, while CAP is visually consistant with RDM and TOS. I don't much care one way or the other. --Peter Farago 02:14, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

I guess so, well just in case anyone wanted it. I'm not staking a big discussion on this, I'm just tossing ideas around. Whatever works out. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 02:16, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Oh I just figured this out: both "Caprica" and "Voyager" have 7 letters, but Memory Alpha uses that "VOY" abbreviation all the time. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 02:17, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

So will RDM refer to both the RDM universe and the re-imagined series, while CAP refers just to the new spinoff? That is, suppose a new character named "Rigel" shows up in the "Caprica" series. Is she "Rigel (RDM)", or is she "Rigel (CAP)"? --Peter Farago 02:18, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

She'll be summarily executed and all memory of her erased. ...That is a problem, though. --CalculatinAvatar 02:23, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

Thought: There currently exist no pages requiring re-imagined series vs. Caprica disambiguation. RDM is currently used only for things that are part of both continuities.

Proposal: TNS should be used for the things only belonging to the re-imagined series, i.e. Episode Guide (RDM) -> Episode Guide (TNS), Screen Captures (RDM) ->Screen Captures (TNS), and things named the same in both (like hypothetical Rigel and Resistance). RDM should be used to the continuity Ronald D. Moore has created.

This minimizes changes, but it disambiguates what must be. --CalculatinAvatar 02:30, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

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Re-imagined Series definition: initial skills training; can refer to basic military indoctrination, and arms and ground training ^{(TRS: "Fragged")}; and basic flight training ^{(TRS: "Miniseries")}