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Talk:The Ties That Bind/Archive 1

Discussion page of The Ties That Bind/Archive 1
Revision as of 03:17, 20 April 2008 by Dzonatas (talk | contribs)

Latest comment: 16 years ago by Dzonatas in topic Nicky Cylon or Human

Is this title a hint to everyone's favourite alcoholic colonel? OTW 19:23, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

That would be "The Tighs That Bind". hehe. Like "Tigh me up, Tigh me down". That was a nice play on words. --Serenity 01:22, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

SG1 thing?

Is the SG-1 thing really necessary? After all, I'm sure that here are tons of television shows that have similar names -- for instance, I'm sure that there are shows that have episodes named "Faith". To be honest, I find nothing significant in that note. Thoughts? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New 13:22, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

Agreed. Usually it's simple title that get reused often, but since this is a fixed expression it's not so surprising. --Serenity 13:25, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
Didn't know "The Ties That Bind" was like a common expression (one of the downsides of being a near-native, but still non-native, English speaker), I was under the impression it was simply a Biblical quote. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 13:49, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
The origin is of course that bible quote, but if you google it, you'll also find a Bruce Springsteen song and many news articles that use it. For example "The ties that bind China, Russia and Iran" or "Sony Cuts the Ties That Bind Walkman" or "Technologies to untie the ties that bind". And for TV, an episode of "The OC" shares that name too, so Stargate shouldn't be singled out. We already pay way too much attention to it with cast notes. --Serenity 13:55, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
Right. I just didn't know TTTB was a common expression. Removing. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 13:59, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

Image

May I suggest taking some image that is a) smaller b) oriented horizontally, not vertically? Current image breaks s.4 episode guide and is a bit too big. -- Spike 17:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

It's already scaled down and it might not be so obvious once that page is filled with content. The only other interesting image would be this (I can get a high-res version). Or we could crop the current one at her waist. -- Serenity 18:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
My vote goes to this, right. -- Spike 18:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
It depends, because Cally... ahem. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 19:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Then crop it at least if it must be Cally. -- Spike 20:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
I say this one How many do have Cheif and Tory? We have lots with Roslin and crew. :) Shane (talk) 03:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well, it's not like there is a shortage of things about the Final Five, either on screen or online, so I chose pictures that are about something else. -- Serenity 15:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Mixing it up is good. I been thinking about making them all random {{#random:image1.jpg,etc}} Shane (talk) 15:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Orion

At about 28 minutes, when the other baseships jump in, the constellation of Orion is clearly visible in the background. Worth mentioning on the entry?--Werthead 10:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Absolutely. Not only did you see Orion, but also Taurus and the Pleiades - and most importantly, as you would see them if you were within ~50 light years of Earth. --Qprmeteor 12:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Acts vs. Location Format

I feel that this guide would be much easier to read and follow if it was in a Location format instead of by Acts. IMHO, YMMV, ect. -- FrankieG 16:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Yeah. that's the way I orginally had it setup before spenc uploaded his thing :P Shane (talk) 16:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, didn't look at the history. It just seems harder to read this way. -- FrankieG 16:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hey. Wasn't blaming ya. :) I gues I'll pick apart his summary and switch everything around. Shane (talk) 16:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Nicky Cylon or Human

I wonder if this episode shows how the story hits on pure fiction rather than sci-fi with the case of Nicky being a cylon. Nicky is a boy, which would mean there has to be a Y chromosome. If Tyrol is truly a Cylon, then Cally could only have a female child. They stated earlier in the series that the skinjobs could not reproduce without human donors. Reading the sci-fi forums and original series (way back to deception to the Cylons/Baltar by Specter, and how the Beings of Light 'try' not to interfere) may provide a spoiler to what is to come next from this episode if it stays on the sci-fi side. If it goes fiction, maybe it be worth noting what made Nicky a boy and a cylon before someone yells "that's not sci-fi!" (The Science Note: women can reproduce women without men in genetic experiments of fertilization, but women do not carry/make the Y chromosome to reproduce a male.) (Podcast note: [1]) Dzonatas 21:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

They did not state anything about human donors. They stated that Cylons could not reproduce with each other, and could not reproduce with humans unless there was love. Cally and Tyrol love each other, imperfect as their marriage might be, so Nicky was conceived like Hera. No reason he shouldn't have a Cylon Y chromosome. -- Noneofyourbusiness 21:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
RDM has stated the the final five are fundamentally different than the others, so what is know about the significant seven may not apply. -- FrankieG 21:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Plus, what is known about the signficant seven doesn't rule it out. -- Noneofyourbusiness 21:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
So, we can say that Nicky is fundamentally different when compared to Hera. The plot just grows more from this episode about them and brings questions, but the difference can be noted on the Nicky or Hera page. I was going to add something to the article, but I felt it was better to wait another episode. Thanks -- Dzonatas 03:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)Reply