Talk:Cloud 9/Archive 1: Difference between revisions

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Should the tense of the article be changed to past, now that the Cloud 9 has been destroyed? --Kraetos 11:24, 12 March 2006 (CST)

Probably not. Even though WE all know that it's gone, it's still there for seasons 1 and 2 (well, most of 2 anyway...). Thus anybody reading about it from a season 1 or earlier 2 standpoint would still see it as existing. I think that's the reasoning behind episodic info being present tense. As for tense about the stuff that happened in the year gap on New Caprica... I assume present tense would be best just to avoid a situation where you're switching back and forth between past and present tense along the same timeline. If there's more discussion of this we might take it over to S&C. --Steelviper 11:36, 12 March 2006 (CST)

In the past, we've used past tense for events that ocurred prior to any filmed episode (Anne and William Adama married twenty years prior to the attack; Ellen Tigh was discovered three weeks prior to "TIgh Me Up, Tigh Me Down"), and present tense for events that actually take place during episodes. I'm somewhat partial to that convention, which would put the events of the one-year-gap in the past tense, but I agree that it could be confusing. I'd like to hear others' thoughts. --Peter Farago 13:23, 12 March 2006 (CST)

Personally, I believe that anything before the Miniseries should be spoken of in the past tense. Everything else should be present tense. At least that's what I'm partial to myself when I edit/write. -- Joe Beaudoin 13:51, 12 March 2006 (CST)

I already forsee many problems with tense that are going to crop up thanks to the gap. We can't say "if we saw it on screen as it happened, its present, but if we saw it in a flashback, its past" any more, because that means, for example, the events of day 200 are in present tense, but the events of day 400 are past tense. While changing tenses to be relative to individual articles would make the articles clearer, having tense be relative to the Miniseries is easier to maintain on a large scale. It is also the status quo, and would be a pain to change every article.

If we think this issue is serious enough, we should put it somewhere where more people will see it and we will be able to gather ideas. If we decide we need a better solution, I am sure that someone would come up with it. I find that theres always a solution to most problems if you look hard enough and ask a lot of people. Regardless, the present tense solution does work for now, until we start getting into flashbacks - which, I gather will be frequent in the first few episodes of season 3. --Kraetos 23:05, 12 March 2006 (CST)

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 ::In the past, we've used past tense for events that ocurred prior to any filmed episode (Anne and William Adama married twenty years prior to the attack; Ellen Tigh was discovered three weeks prior to "TIgh Me Up, Tigh Me Down"), and present tense for events that actually take place during episodes. I'm somewhat partial to that convention, which would put the events of the one-year-gap in the past tense, but I agree that it could be confusing. I'd like to hear others' thoughts. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:23, 12 March 2006 (CST)
 :::Personally, I believe that anything before the Miniseries should be spoken of in the past tense. Everything else should be present tense. At least that's what I'm partial to myself when I edit/write. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 13:51, 12 March 2006 (CST)
+::::I already forsee many problems with tense that are going to crop up thanks to the gap. We can't say "if we saw it on screen as it happened, its present, but if we saw it in a flashback, its past" any more, because that means, for example, the events of day 200 are in present tense, but the events of day 400 are past tense. While changing tenses to be relative to individual articles would make the articles clearer, having tense be relative to the Miniseries is easier to maintain on a large scale. It is also the status quo, and would be a pain to change every article.
+::::If we think this issue is serious enough, we should put it somewhere where more people will see it and we will be able to gather ideas. If we decide we need a better solution, I am sure that someone would come up with it. I find that theres always a solution to most problems if you look hard enough and ask a lot of people. Regardless, the present tense solution does work for now, until we start getting into flashbacks - which, I gather will be frequent in the first few episodes of season 3. --[[User:Kraetos|Kraetos]] 23:05, 12 March 2006 (CST)