Talk:CIC/Archive 1

I thought it was "COMBAT Information Center"; can this page be changed? --Ricimer, 26 Aug 2005

Expansion

I'm flagging this for expansion. There's a lot of information on scifi.com that we should incorporate, including a detailed floorplan. We should get some words about Pegasus's CIC up as well. --Peter Farago 16:55, 18 October 2005 (EDT)

There is a little about the origin of the Pegasus sets on its article page as well. Perhaps with Resurrection Ship and later episodes we will gain more. Spencerian 17:52, 18 October 2005 (EDT)

Expansion is complete, using the QuickTime 3D movie tours of the set that allowed me to take a picture of CIC from practically any angle. While Sci-Fi Channel's information should always be taken with a grain of salt (the viewer area incorrectly calls CIC the "Command Information Center"), it would be hard to screw up the pictures that make up CIC, and the names of the stations appear sound and match better to the previous labels from the previous incarnation of this page. Formatting was done to allow later text expansion and minimize picture collisions. I removed episode information as much of it was covered in other articles. --Spencerian 23:59, 5 January 2006 (EST)

Help with Image Formatting Here

CIC is a very visual place. My recent updates to expand this push my own wiki formatting limits. Day removed the use of breaks I made to keep text from awkwardly colliding about in one sectioon, damaging the asthetics of the page. I reverted that change for now, but any help to improve this page's formatting is greatly appreciated. --Spencerian 13:17, 24 January 2006 (EST)

If you look at the Island, Day demonstrated how you can use "div" tags to set up partitions/divisions between sections to make sure that they do not overlap. Is this what you were trying to do? (Also, if you use the / in the breaks Day is more likely to leave them alone... he's the XHTML enforcer, apparently.) --Steelviper 14:15, 24 January 2006 (EST)

That he is! :) I'll look at how that's used and incorporate the idea from the Island. So, are you the lion king? I want to be the Cylon-in-the-box. Nobody wants a Cylon-in-the-box... --Spencerian 15:49, 24 January 2006 (EST)

Those dividers look sharp! I posted that same kind of formatting question on the island, and Day responded by filling in those div tags. I'm glad his tip worked here too. As for my title, I think somebody once proclaimed me the King of the TOS pages. El Rey de Los Paginas de Serie Original feels a bit more appropriate right now, but I think I'm just experimenting in the translating business until somebody who knows what they're doing gets fed up with how bad that is and replaces it with some proper Spanish. As for your title... perhaps the Battlestar Wiki Greeter? (Though you don't seem quite old enough to have taken on that role, if the age requirements are anything like Walmart.) --Steelviper 16:07, 24 January 2006 (EST)

For you, alternately, "El Supremo." :) You are authorized to shoot anyone (including yourself) in regards to inquiries about me and how it compares to WalMart greeting functions in the future. Damn it, I'm not that old...I'm not...! (snif) --Spencerian 16:23, 24 January 2006 (EST)

By your command. --Steelviper 22:10, 24 January 2006 (EST)

Yes! Very sharp! Also, entirely XHTML 1.0 Transitional compliant! *wink* I'm a bit of a validation nazi because of my experience with being the web guy for Texas Sports Weekly. I'll try to keep my W3C-heiling down to a dull roar, though. Not everyone is as obsessive-compulsive as I am about it. Anyway, I'm glad that div thing works so well. --Day 02:14, 25 January 2006 (EST)

Cinematic Information Confusion

I'm having a great deal of difficulty parsing the last "Cinematic Information" bullet, specifically

The area was likely built with the set budget before later restrictions would make building one impossible

I get that the (stage) area was likely built with the budget for the BSG set. That makes so much sense it's almost redundant. What about "before later restrictions"? Does that maybe have to do with the set budget being reduced in the future? Or some sort of imminent OSHA regulation that would prevent the set's alteration on the sound stage? Or something else?

So I guess I wonder what kind of "restrictions" the writer is talking about, and why "later". ("Later" in reference to what time?)

One thing that makes sense is that the Weapons Control Room needed to be seen in the miniseries or else there would be continuity problems in the regular series, should the show be picked up. But that isn't insurmountable; problems of that nature can usually be dealt with by writing a brief "remodeling" story into the screenplay.

Additionally, it's actually called the The Weapons Control Room above, but Section here. Though I suppose one can consider the terms close enough to be equal. --User:JohnH 19:25, 1 Feb 2006 (EST)

In Star Trek: The Next Generation for the first episode they wrote in a scene to occur in Engineering because if they didn't build that set for the pilot, no later budget increase would allow for the set to be built. Roddenberry though that was a travesty, so he wrote it in after the script was already done.

That's just an example, but, as I understand it, when a show is new, it gets a big budget for building sets, but for subsequent seasons, the budget is reduced (justified, I suppose, by the idea that most of the sets are already built). Also, how beleivable would a "remodeling" plot be aboard Galactica? The ship's already built. All the space inside the frame is alotted to something. When things like this need expanding, they go into dry dock. I don't think they've got the infrastructure to do much remodeling at all. --Day 20:22, 1 February 2006 (EST)

Day's example is EXACTLY the situation I was thinking of when adding that. It's a presumption for BSG, but a likely one. As far as naming, the CIC tour uses section normally, but Weapons Control Room is the term used in the CIC tour. Of course, Sci-Fi also calls CIC incorrectly as the Command Information Center, so... --Spencerian 11:22, 3 February 2006 (EST)

TOS Bridge

Does anyone plan to do an equivalent article about the Original Series control center?

Davidkevin 04:25, 17 March 2006 (CST)

Go for it, man. Make sure one doesn't already exist. A likely place to look would be linked from the TOS page on Galactica. Feel free to get it going, though. --Day 04:47, 17 March 2006 (CST)

Core Command is what you're looking for. It's actually listed in the stubs in the OSAD. And I agree... go for it! --Steelviper 07:12, 17 March 2006 (CST)

The Core

In "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down", Gaeta mentions an area of the CIC known only as "the Core". The area makes up the second tier of the CIC, covering an area about 1/3 of its perimeter. Additionally, the area leads into a room lined with extensive computer consoles, which is buzzing with activity. Despite its obvious importance, I'm not sure exactly what the area does. I suspect that the Core is an engineering station, or perhaps it is used for astrometrics. I would love to write it into the article, but I hesitate due to the apparent lack of information regarding its purpose, and could use any research help anybody would be willing to provide. If anybody knows what the area is used for, or can at least speculate from hints and visual clues, I would sure like to hear it. I could also use a vidcap.--OrionFour 03:44, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

Hi, OrionFour. Nice catch. Based on the context of the dialogue as well as the location, "the core" appears to be the otherwise undocumented upper decks and conference areas of CIC. Roslin and Adama have met there several times over the series, most recently in "Crossroads, Part II." Given how much it takes to run an older non-networked battlestar, for CIC to have several decks and people with computers that are independent, the core is just a part of CIC we viewers just have to accept as part of the "background." I think you have plenty of data, so create a subsection as the last items, below the central deck areas already listed. Have fun! :) --Spencerian 15:05, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

Since we don't really know anything about the specific stations there, you'd have to stick with general information, but it's worth noting. As for a screenshot: with general shots like this I have a hard time remember scenes that have a good view, but if you have something specific in mind, I can take one. --Serenity 15:16, 3 October 2007 (CDT)