Talk:Characters eliminated from suspicion/Archive 1

I don't get why death disproves a character as a Cylon. We're talking about the final five here. If one of them died, they would of course not reappear on board the fleet, but could very well appear as one of the final five later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bradtem (talk • contribs).

As noted (ad nauseum) on the talk page of the Humanoid Cylon speculation article, death removes a character from suspicion because ONLY a Cylon can return from the dead. If the character returns, they are obviously a Cylon. Until the other Cylon characters are actually revealed on-air, however, we don't know who has returned (and cannot speculate further--that's fanwanking). Thus, dead is dead unless the character is truly revealed in a show. --Spencerian 23:01, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Why are any of these eliminated

I've said it before, but Saul Tigh as Cylon seems to confirm it. I don't see how any of these characters can be eliminated. Based on Tyrol, it seems likely that Final Five cylons can breed without trouble. I see nothing in the show to indicate they are at risk from the virus. Age and having fought in the Cylon war are not barriers -- the Final Five are, as is now clear, a different breed of Cylon that, like Tigh, are older than the Cylons we have seen in the show. I see nothing that says they can't breed, can't be somebody's child (Tigh was a teenage warrior, Tyrol remembers his childhood though that could be a fake memory) can't handle the virus, can't have brothers and sisters or have long associations. It's very likely (I would even say close to confirmed) that they are older than the colonies themselves.

Alas, even the above rule that a character that returns from death must be a Cylon is now false. We certainly aren't sure that the returned Starbuck is the final Cylon, and there's evidence she is not.

I suspect we need to rethink the page about the remaining member of the Final 5. Nobody (except the 11 known Cylons) is eliminated from suspicion. It's worth documenting unusual events which might point the finger at any given character, but the old rules are gone.--Bradtem 03:56, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Cally and Helo are eliminated because they were able to successfully breed with Cylons, Lee and Kacey are eliminated because they have living human parents, Hot Dog, Racetrack and Erin Mathias are eliminated due to exposure to the lymphocyic encephalopathy. William Adama and Lee Adama are eliminated because they have verified character histories dating back to birth. Laura Roslyn and Tom Zarek are the only living characters on this list who are still candidates. -- Gordon Ecker 06:43, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

There is also the fact that I mentioned on another page: that in the case of the Final Five, there does not necessarily have to mean that the rules are the same. For example, even though Galen's a Cylon, that does not necessarily mean he's lying about his parents, nor that they were made up - bear in mind, he may have been adopted (though I won't go into more detail to avoid fanwanking). For that matter, we're still not even sure that the "returned" Starbuck is actually Kara back in action and not just Lee going insane in the membrane.--み使い Mitsukai 22:29, 27 March 2007 (CDT)