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I wonder if it has to do with that big red spot... *rollseyes* --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 18:48, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

I'm more reminded of that Writer's Podcast thing, you know when they're saying "How many more times are we going to find an artifact like the Arrow of Apollo and have to search for them all? That feels like going back to the well too many times, I mean what are we going to say, "Athena has 10 sacred toenail clipping scattered across space, you have to find them all...?" :) --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 18:49, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

i'm thinking along the lines of some jewelry. --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 18:57, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

It sounds like a good plotline actually. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 19:05, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

Merv - you just made me spill forth mein coca cola whilst reading the section about the sacred toenail clippings - thats too much for 3am on a sunday morning! Still, plot looks good, just wish Season 3 would hurry up and AIR dammit! :) --Fordsierra4x4 21:08, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

No, really, they make a joke about "Athena's toenail clippings" in that writer's podcast thing. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 21:12, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

I have a few possible meanings for 'eye of Jupiter' --starryniteynite

1) Relatively obscure name for NGC 3242, a planetary nebula (A ring of illuminated gas expanding out from a sun-like star that's exhausted its fuel, and has lost its outer layers) a few thousand light years from Earth. Most astronomers call this 'the Ghost of Jupiter' instead, though some Hubble images have used this name. Its not a very unique PN (tho it has some gas streamers we can't quite explain), but it could be used as a navigational marker like M8 (the lagoon nebula). It is a very pretty nebula :)

2) "Eye of Jupiter" was the Greek/Roman name for the sun, which lead to today's 'all seeing eye' symbol of the free masons and on the pyramid in US currency

3)Adama=Zeus=Jupiter...yes, they tend to use Greek vs. Roman names, but the titles are not always consistent with this convention, and we have also seen evidence for non Greek mythological names (Isis, for example). The rest of it could be wordplay too...'eye' might refer to someone acting as Adama's eyes, rather than his eyes literally (just as 'The captain's hand refereed to Lee acting as Gardner's XO, or his hand, rather than some captain's literal hand)

4)A reference to Jupiter's big red spot, a huge hurricane-like storm on the planet's surface. Just like the "bastille Day" title, this could reference something in the episode, but not directly...they might travel through a similar storm. This has actually been done before in the miniseries, when Galactica travels into the storm at Ragnar

5) The tried and true, ancient object meaning...just like the arrow of Apollo directly references a character, but has no link to the character himself, this could just be a pretty piece of bling..

Personally, I would love #1, but only because it'd make me 2/2 for BSG objects in my thesis and I'm a total, unabashed geek. I think its probably #2, however, and they find some sort of navigational means of finding Earth (like a picture of Earth w/ distances& directions to three pulsars or very unique objects

Music

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Could some1 tell me what was that song at the end of the episode. There were no lyrics, just music, and it was a really good choice, it shows nicely how the tension grows at the end. Plz if u know what song it is write it... TNX ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DedMed (talk • contribs).

http://bearmccreary.com/

Check out the blog for example, though it doesn't refer to that particular piece. It's no particular song, but like nearly all of the music on BSG an original composition. You can find similar pieces on the soundtracks for the first two seasons and it might even have been reused from an earlier episode --Serenity 13:01, 28 January 2007 (CST)

I found it. It's from Season 2. On the soundtrack it's track 17, Prelude to War. I recognized it immediately at 3min in, and it has the same drum beat during the last 30 seconds. The drew it out for TV so you're not gonna get the same exact theme, but it's pretty close, and all I've found thus far. Ghostalker 19:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

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How did Tyrol find the Temple of Five?

Possible Answer due to revelations in No Exit: The whole thing about the blocked memories may explain how Tyrol was able to sense and find the Temple of Five: he'd been there before on his way to the Colonies so the location was in his blocked but not erased memories. They may have subconciously guided him there as he was pretty close by.

...is a spoiler. Why could this not be discussed on another page with a link on this page to that discussion (like other notes provide a link to "Answer")? I feel strongly that first time viewers should be able to read these entries as they watch the DVDs without being spoiled. Magpie 18:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

We're undertaking an effort to move all the answers to the answered questions to their own separate pages. I've begun doing this for season 1, but have been sidetracked by life, the universe, necessary Wiki maintenance behind-the-scenes (housekeeping, really) and everything. So if you want to join follow the example I've set, you are more than welcome to do so! ;-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 19:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

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 I wonder if it has to do with that big red spot... *rollseyes* --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:48, 29 July 2006 (CDT)
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 Personally, I would love #1, but only because it'd make me 2/2 for BSG objects in my thesis and I'm a total, unabashed geek. I think its probably #2, however, and they find some sort of navigational means of finding Earth (like a picture of Earth w/ distances& directions to three pulsars or very unique objects
-== Duelling Sharons ==
+== Music ==
-So did anyone else get a sense of animosity/jealousy between the two Sharons?  While it seems that Boomer has accepted her place amongst the Cylons and no longer considers herself a part of the humans, it also seems that she's a bit jealous of Athena's "taking her place", if you could call it that.  Likewise, it also seemed that aside from her duties as a Colonial officer, Athena's refusal to let Boomer in with Adama was also somewhat out of personal distrust, ironically the same distrust of the Cylons that her fellow Colonial colleagues have.
-Also, while Boomer told Athena about Hera's condition out of possible concern of the child (possible strain of humanity left in her?  Cylon imperative?  Or something else?), seems to me that Boomer enjoyed bursting her "sister"'s bubble on that.  Talk about sibling rivalry there.
-It'll be interesting to see if there will be any further Sharon vs. Sharon confrontations in the series.--<font color="#4b0082">[[User:Mitsukai|み使い]]</font> <font color="#2f4f4f">''[[User_talk:Mitsukai|Mitsukai]]''</font> 23:55, 15 December 2006 (CST)
-:It was a very, very interesting dynamic. In any other show, we would have had a knock-down dragout "catfight."  You hit the nail on the head. This episode was prime stuff. And, we on the wiki should be commended: our ''Galactica'' nuke count is right on the money! (Either that, or the show is using ''us'' as a source! :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 00:20, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-::Does that mean we can finally change the "Class-D Nuclear Warhead" to something completely different, since their nukes ''aren't'' Class-D? :P --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 10:42, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-==Image==
-Let's find an image that actually occurs in this episode. Maybe the wide shot of Tyrol in the temple? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:43, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-Heh which one? to me it seems the Chief was a bit wide in ALL shots ; how could he gain weight while the fleet was starving? the chief definitely deserves the Lee Adama Fat-Ass trophy --[[User:Lordmutt|lordmutt]] 03:10, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-:Maybe it was Chief, and not Dr. Cottle, that got all of Kat's energy bars from the last ep.--<font color="#4b0082">[[User:Mitsukai|み使い]]</font> <font color="#2f4f4f">''[[User_talk:Mitsukai|Mitsukai]]''</font> 12:25, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-==Did Starbuck survive?==
-Horray for the carelessness of adverts! Within ten minutes we knew the answer to that one. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 09:14, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-:Aside from that, it's going to continue the cycle of Soap Opera unease there, if Dee's the one sent to go get Starbuck back.  Can't wait to see the uncomfortable stares on that one, especially if (as I suspect) Dee set up Starbuck to be the "eye in the sky" '''hoping''' the Cylons would shoot her down.--<font color="#4b0082">[[User:Mitsukai|み使い]]</font> <font color="#2f4f4f">''[[User_talk:Mitsukai|Mitsukai]]''</font> 11:43, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-::Who else was supposed to fly the mission? Looks like Lee and Kara are the only two qualified pilots on the ground and Lee is needed in overall command. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:34, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-==Too good to be true==
-When we Baltar's voice over ''Galactica'''s speaker, the closed caption actually identifies him as "Cylon over speaker". I know that's not really meant to be taken as anything, but with all the speculation, it seems like a shining goof, or maybe even someone taking a good piss out of the [[Baltar as Cylon speculation|whole thing]]. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 09:14, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-==Nuking the Planet==
-Does anyone else think that the nuclear missiles have the ability to be detonated remotely, before they reach their target? --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 10:44, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-:Not to mention abort code transmissions, etc.  Makes you wonder if the missiles were set for "one shot, one kill" mode, where they could not be recalled.--<font color="#4b0082">[[User:Mitsukai|み使い]]</font> <font color="#2f4f4f">''[[User_talk:Mitsukai|Mitsukai]]''</font> 11:39, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-== WTF moment ==
-I was on the [[Karl Agathon]] page, updating it for this ep's news, when I came across [[:Image:Valley_of_Darkness-Starbuck_Helo.jpg|this old picture]].  Considering how Kara's painting looks and that she's religious (though not indoctrinated in any sort of clerical form, unlike Chief Tyrol's parentage), does anyone think that (in hindsight), this may have been a hint to the Eye itself?--<font color="#4b0082">[[User:Mitsukai|み使い]]</font> <font color="#2f4f4f">''[[User_talk:Mitsukai|Mitsukai]]''</font> 12:37, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-: It actually makes a lot of sense... Taking Zeus to mean Admiral Adama, and that Kara Thrace is the go-to pilot for reconnaissance missions, AND the paintings on the walls, we have a plausible theory in the works! <small>—The preceding '''unsigned''' comment was added by {{User|Alcibiades}}.</small>
-: Are you kidding me?! They set this episode up a year ago! --[[User:Galactageek|Galactageek]] 19:39, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-: I find it pretty hard to believe too, but that painting ''really really really'' looks like the art in the temple. --[[User:Saforrest|Saforrest]] 20:41, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-== 18 Casualties & Relevance to "The Passage" ==
-If 18 people were lost from '''The Passage''' episode, that means that 17 (at most) were aboard those two lost civilian ships, right? I'm only bringing this up to clarify what transpired &mdash; from that, and what we saw, the Raptors would pair up with a civilian ship, and that ship's passenger complement would be transferred onto ''Galactica'' (more heavily shielded, combat FTL drive) for the ferry run through the cluster. The civilian ship would then be crewed by an absolute bare minimum number of crewers. Then, when the group reached the other side of the cluster, the passengers would be transported back to their ships (if they survived the passage), the ships would remain at "Algae-planet", and ''Galactica'' would turn around and go back to the original side to repeat the cycle over again for a new group of civilian ships?
-Am I reading/viewing this right? -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 13:53, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-:The ships were manned by skeleton crews. That was even mentioned in "The Passage" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:01, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-: Don't forget that 14 days have transpired. there could have been more births in the fleet. I just came up with the difference from the two episodes--[[User:Quig|Quig]] 16:10, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-== Humanoid Cylons recognize each other on sight ==
-While back on New Craprica, Number 3 knew right away that it was Sharon Agathon. Of course, who else would be trying to remove the ship's launch keys?
-This episode, we see that Athena knew on sight that this Number Eight was Boomer. Interesting.
-Can Cylons tell on sight which of the copies they are? It's already established that the bulletheads can't.
-Note in last weeks episode, Baltar was able to pick The D'anna number three out of the hallway on sight, even though there is an identically dressed number three in the same hallway. [[User:Belay-down-your-burdens|Belay-down-your-burdens]] 16:50, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-:Those two instances do prove that they do recognize one another, which was hinted at in the "[[Cylon Agent]]" page. I guess now it's more than a hint. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 16:54, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-==Names of marines==
-Has anyone heard (or seen in close captions) the names of the marines that were with Starbuck and Dualla? I know one of them is [[Fischer]], but the other three? I heard something like: Criggs, Verek, Ditko. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 17:43, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-:According to the caption, it's Griggs and Varrick; the spelling/pronouncation of the third lad is anyone else's guess. For some reason, the closed caption for this episode doesn't pick up everything for me. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 09:48, 17 December 2006 (CST)
-== Location of the Eye? ==
-At the end of the episode, Tyrol says something about "the sky will open, and the eye will be revealed."  Did that make anyone else think of the star going nova?  -- [[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 22:15, 16 December 2006 (CST)
-:Good idea, but is it possible that such a "blowup" could be predicted in the sacred scrolls thousands of years ago? -- [[User:SuperMMX|SuperMMX]] 01:15, 17 December 2006 (CST)
-::Why not? A race of humans capable of traveling from Kobol to Earth probably knows at least as much about stellar evolution as the Colonials [[User:Xenophon10k|Xenophon10k]] 07:39, 17 December 2006 (CST)
-:: The [[Sacred Scrolls]] have so far contained information about [[Laura Roslin]] being sick, [[Sharon Valerii]] helping them to find the [[Tomb of Athena]], and more...  In addition to various prophetic dreams...  Sure, they could have predicted it.  -- [[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 11:26, 17 December 2006 (CST)
-== Boomer in the brig? ==
+Could some1 tell me what was that ''song'' at the end of the episode. There were no lyrics, just music, and it was a really good choice, it shows nicely how the tension grows at the end. Plz if u know what song it is write it... TNX ;) {{unsigned|DedMed}}
-Did Boomer get thrown in the galactica brig once Athena pointed her out? Was she allowed to return to the Basestars? [[User:Bstone|Bstone]] 01:49, 17 December 2006 (CST)
+:http://bearmccreary.com/
+:Check out the blog for example, though it doesn't refer to that particular piece. It's no particular song, but like nearly all of the music on BSG an original composition. You can find similar pieces on the soundtracks for the first two seasons and it might even have been reused from an earlier episode --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:01, 28 January 2007 (CST)
+::I found it. It's from Season 2. On the soundtrack it's track 17, Prelude to War. I recognized it immediately at 3min in, and it has the same drum beat during the last 30 seconds. The drew it out for TV so you're not gonna get the same exact theme, but it's pretty close, and all I've found thus far. [[User:Ghostalker|Ghostalker]] 19:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
-I doubt it because they probably would have it done right there rather than holding her outside first. I'm sure they let her leave with the others and advised her not to let the door hit on the arse on the way out. --[[User:Mars|Mars]] 09:46, 17 December 2006 (CST)
+==Spoilers==
+This entry in Answered Questions...
+::How did Tyrol find the Temple of Five?
+:::Possible Answer due to revelations in No Exit: The whole thing about the blocked memories may explain how Tyrol was able to sense and find the Temple of Five: he'd been there before on his way to the Colonies so the location was in his blocked but not erased memories. They may have subconciously guided him there as he was pretty close by.
-== Summary ==
+...is a spoiler. Why could this not be discussed on another page with a link on this page to that discussion (like other notes provide a link to "Answer")? I feel strongly that first time viewers should be able to read these entries as they watch the DVDs without being spoiled. [[User:Magpie|Magpie]] 18:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
-We really need a longer summary up there, the only point it currently mentions is kind of random -_- --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 10:58, 17 December 2006 (CST)
+: We're undertaking an effort to move all the answers to the answered questions to their own separate pages. I've begun doing this for [[Answered Questions from Season 1 (RDM)|season 1]], but have been sidetracked by life, the universe, necessary Wiki maintenance behind-the-scenes (housekeeping, really) and everything. So if you want to join follow the example I've set, you are more than welcome to do so! ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 19:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)