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Table Of Colors

Pattern Number	Color of Header Text	Color of Background	Color of Background of Header	Color of Border Background of Header
Current Colors	__ #FFFFFF	__ #461919	__ #CE2000	__ #A60003
Pattern #1	__ #F7FF64	__ #1f0b0b	__ #461919	__ #461919
Pattern #2	__ #FFFFFF	__ #461919	__ #1f0b0b	__ #461919^[1]

↑ Colors on the web using #461919 as the base.

Examples

Pattern #1:

So Say We All...
User:Shane/Main Page/So Say We All

Pattern #2:

So Say We All...
User:Shane/Main Page/So Say We All

RSS feed

~~Well, I've enabled the RSS feed extension. The only thing remaining to be determined is the placement of the feed box.~~ ahem, I'm still working on it. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 20:28, 26 December 2006 (CST)

Ok, I got the extension working. We just need to work out the placement on the main page, as well as other details.

Sweet! I'll play with adding a box under the "airdates" with just the post titles. Also, thanks for getting the site back up! --Steelviper 14:06, 27 December 2006 (CST)

No problem. Need to find out what happened in the first place... -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 14:08, 27 December 2006 (CST)

I talked with the Planet and it was some permissions. But then after we got that working, the database "connection" was messed. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:17, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Right. That was eaccelerator. When the server rebooted, the caching feature turned on, and that's why the database connection was fraked. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 14:27, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Ah. :-) Expert. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:37, 27 December 2006 (CST)

You had already done all the "hard" work, too. I switched to Click-ext (thanks, Shane) to have the icon direct you to the blog. There's room for 10 titles (vertically), but that might be overwhelming/information overload. If people can check out the new section on the project page and weigh in with opinions, we should be good to copy and paste if the consensus favors its addition. --Steelviper 14:38, 27 December 2006 (CST)

This appears to be busted. Need to reinstall since the upgrade? --Steelviper 16:02, 3 January 2007 (CST)

Need to find one that works with 1.9alpha... -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 16:09, 3 January 2007 (CST)

Example of just the blog post titles

Example of the blog post titles with brief snippet

Discussion? Thoughts? Questions? -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 21:57, 26 December 2006 (CST)

update: I've added an example to Battlestar Wiki:Main page. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 22:06, 26 December 2006 (CST)

Looks good. I have the updated lang bars. I think it's go for production. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 00:29, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Well, I think the placement is good as well, I think the text needs some work though. (I did it quickly, so it's not stellar material on my part, in my view, and thus this is a nice target for a nuclear warhead.) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 13:50, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Blank citations

When the Colonial Fleet News Service has no references, the box just shows up. We need to find a way to hide the reference box on the main page when no references are displayed. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:40, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

I think that would be pretty tricky to do. The citations box itself has no way of knowing that there just happen to be no citations on Main Page or any of the pages it transcludes. The best way would probably be to just comment out the citations box manually when there are no refs left. It's not ideal, but at least it's easy and doable. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:44, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, that's just about what I already figured. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:57, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Quote box positioning and other things

One of the more recurring comments I've been seeing is that the Main Page is simply too cluttered. So a few things come to mind....

Recently got a comment from the survey recommending that we move the quotes section down some more, since it is of low importance. I do tend to agree with that assessment, so in its place we can do one of a few things:

Move the portal stuff in its place, a la Memory Alpha's main page.
- Doing this would alleviate some of the "articles are hard to find unless I know precisely what I'm looking for" issues people are reporting...
Move the Colonial Fleet News box to its place. Since that's important as well.

What we need to keep:

Portals (we frankly need to have a bigger box, leading back to my earlier point, since it needs to be expanded... painfully so)
News (including merchandise)
BSW Blog & RDM blog
The Search box feature (expanded so that it also covers BW)
Featured Articles/Pictures
Airdates

Plus, get rid of the FrakMedia feed as well. That's worthless to most BSG fans, IMHO.

I would be tempted to get rid of the "sister projects" box as well, since we can roll that (and Frak Media's website) into the tab header (a lá Battlestar Pegasus) that the wiki will have soon.

I'll have more later, but I need to go away from the keyboard now. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 13:19, 20 February 2008 (CST)

Ok, good start so far. In the place of the old portals box (next to the "Welcome to Battlestar Wiki" box), we can move the search box there and be rid of the box further own down. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 18:31, 21 February 2008 (CST)

[1] Colors on the web using #461919 as the base.

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-Your potential design for the front page suffers from the same problem as the existing one. That is lack of propper navigation.
+{{Template:Archive-bot
+|maxarchivesize = 32K
+|algo = old(14d)
+|archive = Battlestar Wiki talk:Main page/Archive%(counter)d
+}}
-In my opinion there should be a single entry point for each of the 3 series and then through a series of sub-pages (no more than 2) lists of various headings, ie episodes, characters, cast, etc.
+{{ArchiveTOC}}
-Using categories to navigate is not, in my opinion, a good method to find articles. In fact I came accross a page recently ([[Re-imagined Series References]]) that that was not linked to any other page, other than a page for Original Series references similarly linked. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 05:25, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-:I know. I just started so there is going to be stuff that I haven't done yet. Right now I am just trying to get a base to that I can start from some where. I was reading the discussion on the current main page so I am trying to take everything into account. We should reall have portals and not catagories for all the different things in the upper bar. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 05:42, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-:I think what we need is a main page that just fits a screen with links to a short summary for each series. This summary then links to separate pages as listed in my previous post and then on to the main articles. None of the summary or link pages should be more than a screenfull for clarity. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 05:51, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-:Yep. I got that in my head. I am just trying to code it now. It's almost like following the format of  Wikipedia (English), but with the Battlestar Idea. I got some cool names for the main sections. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 06:06, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-:Ok. To put everything into a "Portal" like Wikipedia, we have to do some serious re-design and I need to talk to Joe first before anything. Hopefully he will contact me soon. (''*Hint Hint*'') --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 06:36, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-::If you want to get his attention, you might have better luck if you drop him a note on [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|his talk page]]. That usually triggers an email (if you've got it set up that way) letting the user know they have a message. Not everybody reads the Recent Changes compulsively. (Like I do.) Glad to see you run with this, though! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 06:51, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-::I sent him something over Google talk. I saw your community portal. I can work those colors into the design. And I been just going through, during this time off from shows showing, we can really revamp the site and make it ''very clean and mean''! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 07:05, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-I'm just amazed at how fast this Portal project is going. Soon we will have a navigable wiki to be proud of. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 17:03, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-Before this goes live are we going to have a period of time to test all the portals? --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 03:08, 16 March 2006 (CST)
-:Oh yeah. No worries. It'll take some time to get this all going. Even if we got all the portals up, there's a lot that needs to be established in terms of policy/procedure anyway. (Process for selecting featured articles, etc.) The portals are a lot of the foundation that this new main page seems to be based on, so we'll want to have them solid before we prop anything on top of them. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:17, 16 March 2006 (CST)
-:This main page will most likly stay under my name until we get everything done. I mean, we have till October to work on it :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 10:34, 16 March 2006 (CST)
-:I think the white-on-bright-red color scheme looks odd/is weird to read.  Thoughts?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:03, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
-::I agree, it doesn't fit the existing colour scheme. I fact I don't like the white on black at all. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 16:55, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
-:::What I don't like is the bright red bars; I like the dull red. Easier to read.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 18:23, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
-One this I never been good at are colors, so if you want to post some colors to use. I created a template so when can post colors. [[:Template:ColorWheel|Color Wheel]] so you can post ideas. Of course you post the colors on this page and not that page. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:37, 6 April 2006 (CDT)
-: The content on the page looks pretty good so far. Ive got a few idea but im a bit busy today to write them out. My first concern though is all the colour. I quite like the homepage now with its mostly black background, easier to read and looks a bit cleaner. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:05, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
 == Table Of Colors ==
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-| {{ColorWheel|#461919}}{{ref|Colors}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#461919}}<ref>[http://www.webwhirlers.com/colors/wizard.asp Colors on the web] using #461919 as the base.
+</ref>
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-{{note|Colors}} [http://www.webwhirlers.com/colors/wizard.asp Colors on the web] using #461919 as the base.
+<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>
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-==  Discussion ==
+== RSS feed ==
+<s>Well, I've enabled the RSS feed extension. The only thing remaining to be determined is the placement of the feed box.</s> ahem, I'm still working on it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:28, 26 December 2006 (CST)
+Ok, I got the extension working. We just need to work out the placement on the main page, as well as other details.
+:Sweet! I'll play with adding a box under the "airdates" with just the post titles. Also, thanks for getting the site back up! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:06, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+:: No problem. Need to find out what happened in the first place... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:08, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::: I talked with the Planet and it was some permissions. But then after we got that working, the database "connection" was messed. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:17, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+:::: Right. That was eaccelerator. When the server rebooted, the caching feature turned on, and that's why the database connection was fraked. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:27, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::::: Ah. :-) Expert. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:37, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::: You had already done all the "hard" work, too. I switched to Click-ext (thanks, Shane) to have the icon direct you to the blog. There's room for 10 titles (vertically), but that might be overwhelming/information overload. If people can check out the new section on the project page and weigh in with opinions, we should be good to copy and paste if the consensus favors its addition. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:38, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+This appears to be busted. Need to reinstall since the upgrade? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:02, 3 January 2007 (CST)
+: Need to find one that works with 1.9alpha... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:09, 3 January 2007 (CST)
+=== Example of just the blog post titles ===
+=== Example of the blog post titles with brief snippet ===
+Discussion? Thoughts? Questions? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:57, 26 December 2006 (CST)
+update: I've added an example to [[Battlestar Wiki:Main page]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 22:06, 26 December 2006 (CST)
+:Looks good. I have the updated lang bars. I think it's '''go''' for production. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:29, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::Well, I think the placement is good as well, I think the text needs some work though. (I did it quickly, so it's not stellar material on my part, in my view, and thus this is a nice target for a nuclear warhead.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 13:50, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+== Blank citations ==
+When the Colonial Fleet News Service has no references, the box just shows up. We need to find a way to hide the reference box on the main page when no references are displayed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:40, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+:I think that would be pretty tricky to do. The citations box itself has no way of knowing that there just happen to be no citations on [[Main Page]] or any of the pages it transcludes. The best way would probably be to just comment out the citations box manually when there are no refs left. It's not ideal, but at least it's easy and doable. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:44, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+::Yeah, that's just about what I already figured. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:57, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+== Quote box positioning and other things ==
+One of the more recurring comments I've been seeing is that the Main Page is simply too cluttered. So a few things come to mind....
+Recently got a comment from the survey recommending that we move the quotes section down some more, since it is of low importance. I do tend to agree with that assessment, so in its place we can do one of a few things:
+# Move the portal stuff in its place, a la Memory Alpha's main page.
+#* Doing this would alleviate some of the "articles are hard to find unless I know precisely what I'm looking for" issues people are reporting...
+# Move the Colonial Fleet News box to its place. Since that's important as well.
+What we need to keep:
+# Portals (we frankly need to have a bigger box, leading back to my earlier point, since it needs to be expanded... painfully so)
+# News (including merchandise)
+# BSW Blog & RDM blog
+# The Search box feature (expanded so that it also covers BW)
+# Featured Articles/Pictures
+# Airdates
-I'm not sure which I like better, but I think both are better than the "White on bright red". Maybe not even specify a background, allowing the css style to determine the main background color and text color? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:16, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
+Plus, get rid of the FrakMedia feed as well. That's worthless to most BSG fans, IMHO.
-: All the colros we spefic if would go in the CSS so it can be used across all the templates. right now everything is hardcoded in. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:46, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
-== Style Concensus ==
+I would be tempted to get rid of the "sister projects" box as well, since we can roll that (and Frak Media's website) into the tab header (a lá [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]) that the wiki will have soon.
-Why not use pattern #1 for now, since that's the most readable.  Unless anyone objects to it, I don't see the need for a vote. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 18:20, 21 April 2006 (CDT)
+I'll have more later, but I need to go away from the keyboard now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:19, 20 February 2008 (CST)
-: All coded in. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:22, 21 April 2006 (CDT)
-'''Pattern #1'''
-#[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:10, 21 April 2006 (CDT)
-'''Pattern #2'''
-'''Other'''
+: Ok, good start so far. In the place of the old portals box (next to the "Welcome to Battlestar Wiki" box), we can move the search box there and be rid of the box further own down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:31, 21 February 2008 (CST)