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Table Of Colors

Pattern Number	Color of Header Text	Color of Background	Color of Background of Header	Color of Border Background of Header
Current Colors	__ #FFFFFF	__ #461919	__ #CE2000	__ #A60003
Pattern #1	__ #F7FF64	__ #1f0b0b	__ #461919	__ #461919
Pattern #2	__ #FFFFFF	__ #461919	__ #1f0b0b	__ #461919^[1]

↑ Colors on the web using #461919 as the base.

Examples

Pattern #1:

So Say We All...
User:Shane/Main Page/So Say We All

Pattern #2:

So Say We All...
User:Shane/Main Page/So Say We All

RSS feed

~~Well, I've enabled the RSS feed extension. The only thing remaining to be determined is the placement of the feed box.~~ ahem, I'm still working on it. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 20:28, 26 December 2006 (CST)

Ok, I got the extension working. We just need to work out the placement on the main page, as well as other details.

Sweet! I'll play with adding a box under the "airdates" with just the post titles. Also, thanks for getting the site back up! --Steelviper 14:06, 27 December 2006 (CST)

No problem. Need to find out what happened in the first place... -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 14:08, 27 December 2006 (CST)

I talked with the Planet and it was some permissions. But then after we got that working, the database "connection" was messed. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:17, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Right. That was eaccelerator. When the server rebooted, the caching feature turned on, and that's why the database connection was fraked. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 14:27, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Ah. :-) Expert. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:37, 27 December 2006 (CST)

You had already done all the "hard" work, too. I switched to Click-ext (thanks, Shane) to have the icon direct you to the blog. There's room for 10 titles (vertically), but that might be overwhelming/information overload. If people can check out the new section on the project page and weigh in with opinions, we should be good to copy and paste if the consensus favors its addition. --Steelviper 14:38, 27 December 2006 (CST)

This appears to be busted. Need to reinstall since the upgrade? --Steelviper 16:02, 3 January 2007 (CST)

Need to find one that works with 1.9alpha... -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 16:09, 3 January 2007 (CST)

Example of just the blog post titles

Example of the blog post titles with brief snippet

Discussion? Thoughts? Questions? -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 21:57, 26 December 2006 (CST)

update: I've added an example to Battlestar Wiki:Main page. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 22:06, 26 December 2006 (CST)

Looks good. I have the updated lang bars. I think it's go for production. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 00:29, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Well, I think the placement is good as well, I think the text needs some work though. (I did it quickly, so it's not stellar material on my part, in my view, and thus this is a nice target for a nuclear warhead.) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 13:50, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Blank citations

When the Colonial Fleet News Service has no references, the box just shows up. We need to find a way to hide the reference box on the main page when no references are displayed. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:40, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

I think that would be pretty tricky to do. The citations box itself has no way of knowing that there just happen to be no citations on Main Page or any of the pages it transcludes. The best way would probably be to just comment out the citations box manually when there are no refs left. It's not ideal, but at least it's easy and doable. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:44, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, that's just about what I already figured. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:57, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Quote box positioning and other things

One of the more recurring comments I've been seeing is that the Main Page is simply too cluttered. So a few things come to mind....

Recently got a comment from the survey recommending that we move the quotes section down some more, since it is of low importance. I do tend to agree with that assessment, so in its place we can do one of a few things:

Move the portal stuff in its place, a la Memory Alpha's main page.
- Doing this would alleviate some of the "articles are hard to find unless I know precisely what I'm looking for" issues people are reporting...
Move the Colonial Fleet News box to its place. Since that's important as well.

What we need to keep:

Portals (we frankly need to have a bigger box, leading back to my earlier point, since it needs to be expanded... painfully so)
News (including merchandise)
BSW Blog & RDM blog
The Search box feature (expanded so that it also covers BW)
Featured Articles/Pictures
Airdates

Plus, get rid of the FrakMedia feed as well. That's worthless to most BSG fans, IMHO.

I would be tempted to get rid of the "sister projects" box as well, since we can roll that (and Frak Media's website) into the tab header (a lá Battlestar Pegasus) that the wiki will have soon.

I'll have more later, but I need to go away from the keyboard now. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 13:19, 20 February 2008 (CST)

Ok, good start so far. In the place of the old portals box (next to the "Welcome to Battlestar Wiki" box), we can move the search box there and be rid of the box further own down. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 18:31, 21 February 2008 (CST)

[1] Colors on the web using #461919 as the base.

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-Your potential design for the front page suffers from the same problem as the existing one. That is lack of propper navigation.
+{{Template:Archive-bot
+|maxarchivesize = 32K
+|algo = old(14d)
+|archive = Battlestar Wiki talk:Main page/Archive%(counter)d
+}}
-In my opinion there should be a single entry point for each of the 3 series and then through a series of sub-pages (no more than 2) lists of various headings, ie episodes, characters, cast, etc.
+{{ArchiveTOC}}
-Using categories to navigate is not, in my opinion, a good method to find articles. In fact I came accross a page recently ([[Re-imagined Series References]]) that that was not linked to any other page, other than a page for Original Series references similarly linked. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 05:25, 14 March 2006 (CST)
+== Table Of Colors ==
-:I know. I just started so there is going to be stuff that I haven't done yet. Right now I am just trying to get a base to that I can start from some where. I was reading the discussion on the current main page so I am trying to take everything into account. We should reall have portals and not catagories for all the different things in the upper bar. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 05:42, 14 March 2006 (CST)
+{|align="center" style="width:100%; background-color: transparent; margin-top:-.8em; margin-bottom:-.7em text-align:center; border: 1px solid #421818; font-size:85%" |
+! style="background-color: #421818; color: #F7FF63;" | '''Pattern Number'''
+! style="background-color: #421818; color: #F7FF63;" | '''Color of Header Text'''
+! style="background-color: #421818; color: #F7FF63;" | '''Color of Background'''
+! style="background-color: #421818; color: #F7FF63;" | '''Color of Background of Header'''
+! style="background-color: #421818; color: #F7FF63;" | '''Color of Border Background of Header'''
+|-
+| Current Colors
+| {{ColorWheel|#FFFFFF}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#461919}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#CE2000}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#A60003}}
+|-
+| Pattern #1
+| {{ColorWheel|#F7FF64}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#1f0b0b}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#461919}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#461919}}
+|-
+| Pattern #2
+| {{ColorWheel|#FFFFFF}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#461919}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#1f0b0b}}
+| {{ColorWheel|#461919}}<ref>[http://www.webwhirlers.com/colors/wizard.asp Colors on the web] using #461919 as the base.
+</ref>
+|-
+|}
-:I think what we need is a main page that just fits a screen with links to a short summary for each series. This summary then links to separate pages as listed in my previous post and then on to the main articles. None of the summary or link pages should be more than a screenfull for clarity. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 05:51, 14 March 2006 (CST)
+<div style="font-size:85%"><references/></div>
-:Yep. I got that in my head. I am just trying to code it now. It's almost like following the format of  Wikipedia (English), but with the Battlestar Idea. I got some cool names for the main sections. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 06:06, 14 March 2006 (CST)
+== Examples ==
-:Ok. To put everything into a "Portal" like Wikipedia, we have to do some serious re-design and I need to talk to Joe first before anything. Hopefully he will contact me soon. (''*Hint Hint*'') --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 06:36, 14 March 2006 (CST)
+Pattern #1:
-::If you want to get his attention, you might have better luck if you drop him a note on [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|his talk page]]. That usually triggers an email (if you've got it set up that way) letting the user know they have a message. Not everybody reads the Recent Changes compulsively. (Like I do.) Glad to see you run with this, though! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 06:51, 14 March 2006 (CST)
+{| width="100%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top; background-color:#1f0b0b"
-::I sent him something over Google talk. I saw your community portal. I can work those colors into the design. And I been just going through, during this time off from shows showing, we can really revamp the site and make it ''very clean and mean''! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 07:05, 14 March 2006 (CST)
+! style="background-color:#461919; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:120%; border:1px solid #461919; text-align:left; padding-left: 0.4em; color:#F7FF64;"  | So Say We All...
+|-
+|{{User:Shane/Main Page/So Say We All}}
+|}
-I'm just amazed at how fast this Portal project is going. Soon we will have a navigable wiki to be proud of. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 17:03, 14 March 2006 (CST)
-== To Joe: About the Navagation Sytle Used ==
+Pattern #2:
-The header shows is explained like this. There is a..
+{| width="100%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top; background-color:#461919"
-*TOS and 1980 Portal - Underneath
+! style="background-color:#1f0b0b; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:120%; border:1px solid #1f0b0b; text-align:left; padding-left: 0.4em;"  | So Say We All...
-*RDM is in the upper box on left colluom
+|-
-'''''Each series get it's own main portal!'''''
+|{{User:Shane/Main Page/So Say We All}}
+|}
-Show Summary, Episode Guide, Runners and Crew, and Actors and Acresses are all Portals to RDM Pages. This will remove the need for Catagory listings as it's very hard to navagate and it's all very confusing.
+== RSS feed ==
-But Characters, Cylons, and Colonials are General Portals because they do not change because they just can't. Though we might have [[Kara_Thrace]] as [[Starbuck]], it is not the same as [[Starbuck (TOS)]]. They would go in the "Charecters" portal. Cyclon Six and Five lets say would go under the Cylon portal. Colonials would be things represent the colonials.
+<s>Well, I've enabled the RSS feed extension. The only thing remaining to be determined is the placement of the feed box.</s> ahem, I'm still working on it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:28, 26 December 2006 (CST)
-Then the all important "All Portals" link which will be a overall guide to the different sub-catagories on the page.
+Ok, I got the extension working. We just need to work out the placement on the main page, as well as other details.
+:Sweet! I'll play with adding a box under the "airdates" with just the post titles. Also, thanks for getting the site back up! --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:06, 27 December 2006 (CST)
-I was looking at the Wikipedia portal design, and it could work for this wiki also. The large Battlestar Wikipedia would link to a new page to what the introduction is now.
+:: No problem. Need to find out what happened in the first place... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:08, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::: I talked with the Planet and it was some permissions. But then after we got that working, the database "connection" was messed. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:17, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+:::: Right. That was eaccelerator. When the server rebooted, the caching feature turned on, and that's why the database connection was fraked. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:27, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::::: Ah. :-) Expert. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:37, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::: You had already done all the "hard" work, too. I switched to Click-ext (thanks, Shane) to have the icon direct you to the blog. There's room for 10 titles (vertically), but that might be overwhelming/information overload. If people can check out the new section on the project page and weigh in with opinions, we should be good to copy and paste if the consensus favors its addition. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:38, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+This appears to be busted. Need to reinstall since the upgrade? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:02, 3 January 2007 (CST)
+: Need to find one that works with 1.9alpha... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:09, 3 January 2007 (CST)
+=== Example of just the blog post titles ===
+=== Example of the blog post titles with brief snippet ===
+Discussion? Thoughts? Questions? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:57, 26 December 2006 (CST)
+update: I've added an example to [[Battlestar Wiki:Main page]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 22:06, 26 December 2006 (CST)
+:Looks good. I have the updated lang bars. I think it's '''go''' for production. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:29, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+::Well, I think the placement is good as well, I think the text needs some work though. (I did it quickly, so it's not stellar material on my part, in my view, and thus this is a nice target for a nuclear warhead.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 13:50, 27 December 2006 (CST)
+== Blank citations ==
+When the Colonial Fleet News Service has no references, the box just shows up. We need to find a way to hide the reference box on the main page when no references are displayed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:40, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+:I think that would be pretty tricky to do. The citations box itself has no way of knowing that there just happen to be no citations on [[Main Page]] or any of the pages it transcludes. The best way would probably be to just comment out the citations box manually when there are no refs left. It's not ideal, but at least it's easy and doable. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:44, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+::Yeah, that's just about what I already figured. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:57, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+== Quote box positioning and other things ==
+One of the more recurring comments I've been seeing is that the Main Page is simply too cluttered. So a few things come to mind....
+Recently got a comment from the survey recommending that we move the quotes section down some more, since it is of low importance. I do tend to agree with that assessment, so in its place we can do one of a few things:
+# Move the portal stuff in its place, a la Memory Alpha's main page.
+#* Doing this would alleviate some of the "articles are hard to find unless I know precisely what I'm looking for" issues people are reporting...
+# Move the Colonial Fleet News box to its place. Since that's important as well.
+What we need to keep:
+# Portals (we frankly need to have a bigger box, leading back to my earlier point, since it needs to be expanded... painfully so)
+# News (including merchandise)
+# BSW Blog & RDM blog
+# The Search box feature (expanded so that it also covers BW)
+# Featured Articles/Pictures
+# Airdates
+Plus, get rid of the FrakMedia feed as well. That's worthless to most BSG fans, IMHO.
+I would be tempted to get rid of the "sister projects" box as well, since we can roll that (and Frak Media's website) into the tab header (a lá [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]) that the wiki will have soon.
+I'll have more later, but I need to go away from the keyboard now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:19, 20 February 2008 (CST)
+: Ok, good start so far. In the place of the old portals box (next to the "Welcome to Battlestar Wiki" box), we can move the search box there and be rid of the box further own down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:31, 21 February 2008 (CST)