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A promotion from Gunny to Lt seems extremely unlikely. --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 00:02, 11 February 2006 (EST)
A promotion from Gunny to Lt seems extremely unlikely. --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 00:02, 11 February 2006 (EST)
:Battlefield commission from Admiral Adama? Not that unlikely. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 00:04, 11 February 2006 (EST)
:Battlefield commission from Admiral Adama? Not that unlikely. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 00:04, 11 February 2006 (EST)
There are actually a few reasons why I noted a possible promotion.
1) I'm a United States Marine and in some cases high-ranking NCOs have the opportunity to take a commission.  They'll usually be either a Lt. or a Captain, depending on how high their NCO rank is.
2) There is a severe shortage of commisioned officers in the remaining Fleet Marine Corps.  Just looking at Galactica, all we've seen are NCOs (which forced pilots like Hammerhead to lead Marine strike teams to gather supplies).  The only possible Commissioned officer that we know of is (maybe) Lt Wallace, mentioned in Valley of Darkness.
3) As a Gunnery Sergeant (the highest NCO rank we've seen in the Colonial FLeet Marines so far), Burrell would have been the first choice for promotion, since Hadrian and Fischer are just E-5 Sgts.
--Ltcrashdown 00:52, 11 February 2006 (EST)
: Being that BSG isn't an ''exact'' emulation of a specific real-life institution, could the term "Gunny" be a nickname for Marines given by pilots, much in the same manner as the nickname of "Leatherneck" or "Grunts"? Just a consideration. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 13:27, 12 February 2006 (EST)
::A distinct possibility.  I prefer this over re-thinking our entire notion of their rank structure.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 18:05, 12 February 2006 (EST)
:::Indeed. The "gunny" reference doesn't seem like a lot to go on anyway, especially if the credits explicitly state he's an Lt. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:24, 12 February 2006 (EST)
::::The simplest reason I can think of is an uncaught flubbed line.  It's happened before (e.g. f*ck instead of frack, a younger Husker Adama calling a Cylon raider a c*cksucker insead of (perhaps) a motherfracker, etc).-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 21:19, 6 February 2008 (CST)
:::::Or something that was changed between the script and the shooting. That he is intended as Gunnery Sergeant, but the credits used an old version of the script or something. It's a somewhat rare case of taking the credits over the episode itself. The cocksucker thing is avoiding FCC censorship though. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:05, 7 February 2008 (CST)
::::Whether it's an obscenity or not, I was referring to what comes out of the actor's mouth not matching what's in the script.  And yeah, the script wouldn't have FCC-taboo words, but actors have a way of going with the heat of the moment and ends up on the cutting room floor or in the DVD edition ...-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 15:22, 7 February 2008 (CST)
:::::You don't know what's in the script. They probably wrote the movie with the DVD in mind and changed it for the television release. Or the other way around. I know what you mean, and "Sacrifice" might be one, but "Razor" is a bad example for an adlib. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:31, 7 February 2008 (CST)
::::::Could just be a nickname for the guy not related to rank at all... just throwing that one out there... [[User:OTW|OTW]] 17:42, 7 February 2008 (CST)

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A promotion from Gunny to Lt seems extremely unlikely. --Redwall 00:02, 11 February 2006 (EST)

Battlefield commission from Admiral Adama? Not that unlikely. Philwelch 00:04, 11 February 2006 (EST)

There are actually a few reasons why I noted a possible promotion. 1) I'm a United States Marine and in some cases high-ranking NCOs have the opportunity to take a commission. They'll usually be either a Lt. or a Captain, depending on how high their NCO rank is. 2) There is a severe shortage of commisioned officers in the remaining Fleet Marine Corps. Just looking at Galactica, all we've seen are NCOs (which forced pilots like Hammerhead to lead Marine strike teams to gather supplies). The only possible Commissioned officer that we know of is (maybe) Lt Wallace, mentioned in Valley of Darkness. 3) As a Gunnery Sergeant (the highest NCO rank we've seen in the Colonial FLeet Marines so far), Burrell would have been the first choice for promotion, since Hadrian and Fischer are just E-5 Sgts. --Ltcrashdown 00:52, 11 February 2006 (EST)

Being that BSG isn't an exact emulation of a specific real-life institution, could the term "Gunny" be a nickname for Marines given by pilots, much in the same manner as the nickname of "Leatherneck" or "Grunts"? Just a consideration. -- Hawke 13:27, 12 February 2006 (EST)
A distinct possibility. I prefer this over re-thinking our entire notion of their rank structure.--The Merovingian 18:05, 12 February 2006 (EST)
Indeed. The "gunny" reference doesn't seem like a lot to go on anyway, especially if the credits explicitly state he's an Lt. --April Arcus 18:24, 12 February 2006 (EST)
The simplest reason I can think of is an uncaught flubbed line. It's happened before (e.g. f*ck instead of frack, a younger Husker Adama calling a Cylon raider a c*cksucker insead of (perhaps) a motherfracker, etc).-- Fredmdbud 21:19, 6 February 2008 (CST)
Or something that was changed between the script and the shooting. That he is intended as Gunnery Sergeant, but the credits used an old version of the script or something. It's a somewhat rare case of taking the credits over the episode itself. The cocksucker thing is avoiding FCC censorship though. -- Serenity 09:05, 7 February 2008 (CST)
Whether it's an obscenity or not, I was referring to what comes out of the actor's mouth not matching what's in the script. And yeah, the script wouldn't have FCC-taboo words, but actors have a way of going with the heat of the moment and ends up on the cutting room floor or in the DVD edition ...-- Fredmdbud 15:22, 7 February 2008 (CST)
You don't know what's in the script. They probably wrote the movie with the DVD in mind and changed it for the television release. Or the other way around. I know what you mean, and "Sacrifice" might be one, but "Razor" is a bad example for an adlib. -- Serenity 15:31, 7 February 2008 (CST)
Could just be a nickname for the guy not related to rank at all... just throwing that one out there... OTW 17:42, 7 February 2008 (CST)