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== creating and modifying templates ==
I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


i've been looking around on the internet for pointers on creating my own templates and working with other more interesting wiki features, but i'm not having much luck.  is there a site you can point me to?  the feature i was trying to add on my userinfo was school.  thanks!    [[User:Caw|Caw]] 17:14, 15 September 2007 (CDT)
== SSH ==
:[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Templates Here] is a pretty extensive guide on templates. For more complex templates [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions] are useful, although you probably won't have to use them at first. If you want to add stuff to the box templates, you might also want to read about [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Tables tables], which we use to format the boxes. Good luck! ---[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:33, 17 September 2007 (CDT)


== dumpBackup.php ==
I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 
:Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.
I figure you might know the answer to this, so I'll ask you before I make a query on the mediawiki mailing list. Is there a way to specify what kinds of pages can be dumped using dumpBackup.php? For instance, I want to make a dump of pages in the article, portal, sources, category, template, and Battlestar Wiki namespaces, but not anything pertaining to the user or any talk namespaces. Is there an option I need to pass in the command line to do that? Or another program? Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 11:55, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
:There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:How about using [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MWDumper#Filter_actions MWDumper] instead? BTW, why would you want an XML dump of content-only stuff? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:05, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
::We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::Cool. Thanks again! :-) As for why, I'm building a mirror in the event the main server should ever go down. (I don't expect it to, but you never know.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 12:07, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::It can be done with dumpBackup.php also:
::::Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
php dumpBackup.php --filter=namespace:NS_MAIN,NS_CATEGORY,NS_TEMPLATE,NS_PROJECT,100,102
:::::It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run <code>chmod -R g+w hb</code> so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Where 100 and 102 are the numbers associated with the Portal and Sources namespaces (see also [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces here]). BTW, wouldn't it be wise to include Quotes (104) and Podcast (106) too? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:14, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
::::::Will do. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I'll add those namespaces too. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 12:17, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
::::::Joe beat me to it. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, by just restricting it to the most valuable content, it cut the xml filesize down by half. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 12:26, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
:::::::Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I see. For serious backups, you want to backup the entire DB though, so as to also backup users and their preferences, not to mention the quite huge {page,template,image,category,external,lang}links, redirect, *cache and math tables. You could exclude them to cut down on backup size, as they can be rebuilt from the pages' content. That would take quite some time, though, considering the amount of pages we have here. During the rebuild, categories, [[Special:Whatlinkshere]] and redirects won't work very well. Also, the wiki might be somewhat slower since its internal caches are gone. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:39, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
::::::::Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, the entire database is backed up on a weekly basis. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 12:41, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
:::::::::I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::That's a comforting thought. Like I said, some tables can be rebuilt on the fly (you might wanna try excluding them to see if it makes a difference in the backups, I think that it'll at least speed up recovery, less stuff for mysqlbackup to import), but rebuilding will take significant time, although there's not much denial of service involved: the wiki will be somewhat slower, and some features aren't used very often anyway will not work fully. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:45, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Bots dir done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::BTW, if you want to get a general idea of how all those tables work together, see [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Mediawiki-database-schema.png this picture]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:46, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
 
== New extension idea ==
 
For [http://tgm.firstones.net/ The Great Machine] wiki, I've created a [http://tgm.firstones.com/wiki/Template:Cite template] that allows for the creation of shortened inline episode citations. The idea is when the user hovers their cursor over it, the episode number (i.e. S1E01) will reveal the full episode title (i.e. Midnight on the Firing Line). A mouseout event returns the text to its shorter state. This is all done by javascript; the js function that does the text changing is:
 
<code>
function changeTextById(elementId,changeVal){
    var hasInnerText =
    (document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0].innerText != undefined) ? true : false;
    var elem = document.getElementById(elementId);
    if(!hasInnerText){
        elem.textContent = changeVal;
    }else{
        elem.innerText = changeVal;
    }
}</code>
 
That code is located in the [http://tgm.firstones.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js Common.js] file so that it works site-wide.
 
Of course, for it to work, I've had to enable wgRawHTML since that enables the javascript events written in the divs, which is something I really didn't like to do.
 
And the only way I can get it to work is to create sub templates that template substitute from the cite template.
 
What I'd like to do is turn it into an extension so that when the user calls <nowiki><cite id="Midnight on the Firing Line">S1E01</cite></nowiki>, they'll be able to do the same thing, without the use of templates. Is there a way you can whip up something quickly? If not, no worries.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 18:16, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
:I think we need to update the "ref" extension. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 02:02, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::I think it would be a good idea to do <nowiki><redircite>S1E01</redircite></nowiki>, where S1E01 redirects to Midnight on the Firing Line. Implementing this as a fork of Cite.php (which does the <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags) doesn't seem like a good idea to me, as Cite.php is really intended to do the reference section thing.
::Another important issue, though: it currently doesn't work, at least not for me. When I mouseover the example on [[tgm:Template:Cite]], the text doesn't change back and forth between "S1E01" and "Midnight on the Firing Line" as expected, but simply remains static. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:10, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Ok, I fixed that. ;) Do a hard refresh and it should work. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 11:32, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, it works now, except that I can't middle-click it. This could be fixed by using an <nowiki><a></nowiki> element rather than a <nowiki><span></nowiki>. I'll start working on the extension tomorrow. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:12, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah, middle click won't work because it uses a javascript on click event. Hopefully, in writing the extension you would be able to get rid of that... :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:27, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::If you work on Cite.php, this one features would be good... <code><nowiki><ref name="hello" section="greetings">Hi.</ref></nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki><references area="greetings" /></nowiki></code>. "Another" <code><nowiki><ref name="hello"/></nowiki></code> would still put it in the "greetings" while if you had <code><nowiki><ref name="hello2">Test</ref></nowiki></code> would show up just in <code><nowiki><references/></nowiki></code>. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:21, 2 October 2007 (CDT) :)
:::::::You can file an enhancement request at [http://bugzilla.mediawiki.org/ MediaZilla]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:27, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 
I'm done writing the extension. I still have to draw up a README and do all the other paperwork, but you can already test it (at the [[hb:]] for instance) by copypasting [[User:Catrope/redircite.php|this PHP code]] to extensions/redircite/redircite.php (relative to your MediaWiki root directory) and adding <code>require_once('$IP/extensions/redircite/redircite.php');</code> to the bottom of your LocalSettings.php --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:21, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
: Eureka! It works! :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 12:43, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
::The extension is now on line [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Redircite here]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:46, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Thankyou ==
 
Thanks for cancelling the block. I wont "vandalise" the site again (hopefully) and thankyou for properly explaining it to Shane...
 
;) ([[User:Pooh the hat|Pooh the hat]] 17:54, 9 October 2007 (CDT))
:No problem. Shane mixed up the chronology (which can happen if you don't visit Battlestar Wiki as obsessively as some of us do) and blocked you by mistake. It would be unfair to block you from editing forever because of a human error on our part. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:47, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
:Oh wait, you ''did'' vandalize the wiki again, and now you ''have'' been blocked. You won't be able to edit the wiki for 3 months, and if you pull any stunts after, we'll gladly extend that to the end of time. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:01, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== The page: Tigh me up Tigh me down ==
 
When it describes what happens at the dinner between Roslin, Ellen Tigh, Tigh, Adama, and Lee Adama, what does it mean by Ellen tried to play footsies wwith Lee Adama under the table? What is footsies? How was she playing footsies with him? Please reply... {{unsigned|Pooh the hat}}
: [[w:Footsie|Here ya go.]] -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 18:03, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== EditOwn extension ==
 
I noticed your [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditOwn EditOwn] extension and was wondering if there was a way to modify it so that it can perform the following functions:
 
* A user creates a page in the article—or any other—namespace, but doesn't want anyone else to edit it.
* Sysops must be immune, which shouldn't be a problem, but it goes without saying.
* Of course, not all pages on the wiki would have this restriction, and thus there would have to be some way to select whether an article has this type of owner-edit-only protection.
 
Reason I ask is because I'm building the BattlestarPegasus.com website using MW as a backend and one of the key things I wanted to do is have content creators, like fanfic writers, be able to post something up there without worrying about getting rewritten or vandalized. Thus I wanted to see if such a thing was possible. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 02:09, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
:Hmm. I think you may not even need an EditOwn-like extension for that. You could create a group called 'authors' that can create pages whereas regular users cannot. You can also make it possible to protect a page so that only authors can edit it. The necessary lines in LocalSettings.php are the following:
<pre>
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createpage'] = false; // You probably have this one already
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['createpage'] = false; // Regular users can't create new pages
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['createtalk'] = true; // But they can create talk pages
$wgGroupPermissions['authors']['createpage'] = true; // People in our brand new authors group can create pages
 
$wgRestrictionLevels[] = 'authors'; // Make it possible to protect articles authors-only
</pre>
:By default, you'll see <code>Require "authors" permission</code> show up in the protection form. You can change this to something more descriptive by editing [[MediaWiki:protect-level-authors]]. You can add users to the authors group through the [[Special:Userrights]] interface (with which you're probably familiar already). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:30, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
:: Well, I want it so that an author can only edit their own pages. So let's say that there are two fan fiction authors who contribute to BSP.com... they can submit their content, but can't edit the other's work. Is there something that can be whipped up for that? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 12:59, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Ah, that's more complicated. How about [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserPageEditProtection this extension]? Then you could create these pages as [[User:Alice/Fanfic Article 1]] and transclude it (i.e. <code><nowiki>{{User:Alice/Fanfic article 1}}</nowiki></code>) on [[Fanfic article 1]], which would be protected. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:27, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, that seems to be the best bet for now. Thanks! :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:29, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== S/he ==
 
I'm using she and he because using the name all the time is mind-numbingly repetitive. I see that you try to use the name at the start of every paragraph and then switch to pronouns. The problem is that the paragraphs for these characters are usually so short that every or every second sentence starts with the name. That just doesn't really read well ([[Tattooed pilot]] was a really bad case of repetition once). And there generally isn't an confusion about who is meant with it. ---[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:22, 8 November 2007 (CST)
:It's considered good style not to say "(s)he" too often, but to reuse the name every three or four occurrences. Lots of "(s)he"'s are also boring. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:24, 8 November 2007 (CST)
::Yeah. In a longer text that's certainly true, and I wouldn't do it there. As said, the problem is really writing these short unrelated paragraphs in an interesting way. I also think that using the name in the middle of a sentence isn't so bad as starting every paragraph with it. "Mathias this...", "Mathias that..." three times in a row isn't such a good style either :s
::Though it looks fine. The sentences, and especially the first paragraph, aren't as short as with Hoshi's article, so that's a plus. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:27, 8 November 2007 (CST)
:::I know, starting every paragraph with "Mathias" is boring. However, we do have a few paragraphs starting with "she", and like you said, Mathias doesn't have the one-sentence paragraphs Hoshi does. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:31, 8 November 2007 (CST)
 
== WGA Template ==
Found [http://lexigeek.com/wga/wga-battlestar-100.jpg a useful image for the strike template]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 23:19, 14 November 2007 (CST)
:Thanks, I'll certainly use it. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 07:53, 15 November 2007 (CST)
 
== Preview button... ==
 
Sorry about that, I see what you're talking about now. I got all excited and jumped right into writing and editing and didn't read everything I should have first.
 
I hope to be adding (with the preview button ;) ) other new content in the near future. I am the CO of GalacticaHero.net. We specialize in BSG props and costumes, and I have a lot of information about those subjects.
 
-Dean
 
:Just be careful with sourcing. It's nice to have this stuff, but you can't just add things entirely made up by fans.
:Where exactly did you get those images? They say "taken by cast member" or something, but maybe we should also point that out in the article itself. Otherwise, nice work :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 01:34, 22 November 2007 (CST)
 
== Fans4Writers PM ==
Did you get my PM at fans4writers regarding the pictures? I'm not sure there's anything that can be done about those, but I just wanted to give the uh, interested parties, a heads up. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:38, 2 December 2007 (CST)
:Replied @ F4W. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:45, 3 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Wikilinking translated articles ==
 
Well. As you maybe have noticed, I'd translated my first [[William_Adama/pl:William_Adama|serious article]]. :) Now, what might be expected, I've got a question. How should I place interwiki links in this article? I mean, where should they lead? To existing English pages or to not-existing-yet Polish ones? Here's example: <pre>[[Colonial Fleet|Flota Kolonialna]]</pre> or <pre>[[Colonial Fleet/pl:Flota Kolonialna|Flota Kolonialna]]</pre> or maybe even just <pre>[[Flota Kolonialna]]</pre>? I'm asking, beacuse I'm thinking about some distant, but - i hope - inevitable future - creating individual and separate Polish BSGwiki and possible problems with converting articles titles from these "something/pl:coś" to these "coś". As I see, there were few non-English wiki created, so I think you have some earned method for it. :) -- [[User:Glizda101|Glizda]] 15:29, 30 January 2008 (CST)
:I think it would be best to just link to [[Flota Kolonialna]]. It will show a red link, but it won't cause any trouble when it's imported to the Polish wiki. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:02, 31 January 2008 (CST)
::Oh, right, I get it. But if I would like to create an article about Colonial Fleet, do I have to name it "Flota Kolonialna" or "Colonial Fleet/pl:Flota Kolonialna", as said on the Internationalization page? Sorry, it's not very clear for me. :P -- [[User:Glizda101|Glizda]] 14:47, 2 February 2008 (CST)
:::You'd still call it [[Colonial Fleet/pl:Flota Kolonialna]]. This may seem illogical because you're creating a lot of red links (to [[Flota Kolonialna]] and other pages), but this way you won't have to replace dozens of links once we move all those articles to a separate wiki. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:08, 2 February 2008 (CST)
:::Another thing, you should probably also change {{tl|Template:Character Data/pl:Szablon:Dane postaci}} to {{tl|Dane postaci}} even though it doesn't exist. It'll make moving to a separate wiki easier just like creating those links will. You can still use {{tl|Character Data/pl:Szablon:Dane postaci}} for testing of course. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:11, 2 February 2008 (CST)
 
== [[User:Shane/Testing_Area]] ==
 
Click on the CA Airdate "Show". It tells me that it needs to be created, but it should send me "raw" nothing at all. Empty, nada. So the if statement would fail and show me a link. I think there is a interwiki translation error that needs to be fixed. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:45, 30 January 2008 (CST)
:There is an error in the template: you're using {{tl|md:Template:Something}} which should be {{tl|md:Something}} (don't ask me why ;) ). Sadly, scary-transcluding nonexistent pages renders the "Battlestar Wiki does not have an article with this exact name." message. You could #pos: to look for that phrase (see the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StringFunctions StringFunctions extension]). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:44, 31 January 2008 (CST)
::Grrr.... where is the code in the PHP files that deals with this?  [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:45, 31 January 2008 (CST)
:::I don't know that part of the code very well, but it's probably in Parser.php. However, it might be better to request a feature at [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ MediaZilla], so someone who knows their way around the parser can take care of it. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:09, 31 January 2008 (CST)
 
== Delete  ==
 
Go right ahead with purging [[User:DrWho42/Articles Created]]. [[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 20:55, 25 February 2008 (CST)
 
== "See also" extension ==
 
In redoing the sidebar, I was wondering if it is possible to code an extension that would output a "see also" box on the sidebar using a special link. For instance, let's say I put in <nowiki>[[see:Lee Adama]]</nowiki> in the article about William Adama. The result would be a box (similar to the language link box on the sidebar) that prints out the "see also" box with a link leading to Lee Adama. Your thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:30, 27 February 2008 (CST)
:Definitely possible, although I'd go with <code><nowiki><seealso>Lee Adama</seealso></nowiki></code>. I am worried that See Also links in the sidebar might not stand out as much, so you might want to duplicate them (have them both in the sidebar and in the article itself). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:30, 27 February 2008 (CST)
:I like that idea also. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:32, 27 February 2008 (CST)
 
== SVN ==
 
I been baffled by SVN setup for years. What to help me set it up on the server? :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:00, 29 February 2008 (CST)
:You need to install the SVN client (should be easy with <code>apt-get install subversion</code> or whatever package manager you use), then run <pre>svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/ svn</pre> This will put the current SVN version of MediaWiki (1.13alpha right now) in the svn directory. To update to the latest revision, simply cd to the directory and run <code>svn update</code>. This, of course, applies to anonymous use only (i.e. you can't commit anything). If you got commit access (which you probably didn't, or I would've heard of it) and want to be able to commit stuff to SVN, things work differently. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:34, 29 February 2008 (CST)
:Not the client..... server. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:22, 29 February 2008 (CST)
::You wanna set up an SVN ''server''? Now ''that'' they don't teach us at MediaWiki ;) There's a tutorial [http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.reposadmin.html here]. I don't have any experience with setting up and administering SVN repos, only with committing to them ;) What are you gonna put in there anyway? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:29, 29 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Check your email in a few mintues... ==
 
<nowiki>:)</nowiki> [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:28, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
 
== [[w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battlestar Wiki (3rd nomination)|Article for deletion/Battlestar Wiki (3rd nom.)]] ==


The [[w:Battlestar Wiki|Battlestar Wiki]] aritlce has been [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battlestar Wiki (3rd nomination)|nominated for deletion]] for the third time. Feel free to add your comments to the corresponding discussion.--[[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 18:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
== Clear to Commit ==


== Important Email Sent ==
You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Theoretically, you ''could'' (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to ''all'' databases instead of just one. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You can see which tables are old [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout here]. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch [[Sine Qua Non]] with a couple of friends tonight :P --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Seems to only have one error: [[Special:MergeAccount]]. Is php missing something? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I noticed the [[Special:Allmessages]] error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so <code>chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki</code> should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at [[Special:Allmessages]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


Yes... very important. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 17:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
== AntiSpoof Extension ==
:Send another one. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 04:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


== Our namespace... ==
I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof AntiSpoof] extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


Well.. we have two sets. Media has it's own. Everyone else has the same. We don't have the translations that's why we orginally did not do it. I have to update the interwiki bot so it know the namesapces changed also. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 19:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
== global_group_permissions and global_user_groups ==
:I thought the interwiki bot didn't do namespaces other than the main namespace? Or did you fix that? Anyway, we can set up namespace aliases which will make [[de:Quotes:Foo]] automatically go to [[de:Zitaten:Foo]], much like [[de:User:Shane]] takes you to [[de:Benutzer:Shane]]. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


== Podcast Linking ==
I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8
You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for handling the podcast linking for me. Honestly, that used to be one of my favorite things (especially when I came up with a particularly clever/amusing link). My wiki time is severely constrained now, though, so I figured I ought to concentrate on the actual transcription, and I was hoping somebody else would come along and handle the links. Thanks for stepping up! {{unsigned|Steelviper}}
== CentralAuth and globalgroup-permissions ==
:No problem. I was kind of pissed off they hadn't released HTBIM yet... --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 19:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
::Looks like they finally released HTBIM. At least we aren't falling way behind... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Nice. I'll probably get started on it tomorrow, after verifying Six of One. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


== Port wine finish ==
I got CentralAuth working, but GlobalGroupPermissions is a nightmare to set up... how do you get it working?? All help will be '''much''' appreciated. Thanks, AC --[[User:Sunstar NW XP|Sunstar NW XP]] 21:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the [[w:Glenmorangie|Wikipedia article]]. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
== German BSG Wiki ==
: Actually, it's [http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/glenmorangie/whisky582.html Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish]. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::I didn't even ''listen'' to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Well you know, the [[BW:POD]] guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in [[Podcast:The Ties That Bind]]. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


== SSH ==
Hi


I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I need a little help with the edit counter on my profile; the german version of the "Family tree" templates and maybe more
Can you help me? --[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] 20:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:Catrope has not been around for a long time. :( I'll check it out though. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 05:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

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Port wine finish

Latest comment: 16 years ago7 comments3 people in discussion

I'm pretty sure that's what he said, unless you hear differently. It also seems to match the description of the Quinta Ruban (Port Cask Extra Matured), mentioned on the Wikipedia article. --Steelviper 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Actually, it's Glenmorangie Port Wood Finish. :) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I didn't even listen to the podcast yet (is ashamed), I just thought it made no sense at all and changed it to something phonetically close that did make sense (that's what I meant by "intuition" in my edit summary). I know I'm not supposed to do that, but it seemed like an obvious error to me and the podcast was in pre-verification stage. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 16:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I don't see that as a problem. Don't sweat it. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 16:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well you know, the BW:POD guideline state (and rightly so) that one should always listen to the podcast before offering "corrections", because RDM's sentences sometimes don't make that much sense. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 16:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Catrope nailed it. All we should do as transcribers is write what he says. However, when it comes to links, I feel like it's ok to link to what he means (if it's obvious from the context what he's actually talking about). --Steelviper 19:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
That's what we always do. I am wary of the dropped words like [this] in Podcast:The Ties That Bind. They're mostly unnecessary and not used in any of the other podcasts. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

SSH

Latest comment: 16 years ago12 comments2 people in discussion

I did give you access to SSH so you could run the update php file right? Shane (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, BSGWiki SSH is working fine for me, it's Wikimedia. A bug was discovered in Debian's openssl package which caused the SSH key generator to generate too predictable keys (they're supposed to be random), so my RSA key to Wikimedia SVN was disabled. That's why I created a new one and that's also why I haven't put 1.13 online yet as I can't access SVN until my new key is processed.
There's also a problem with the SVN program on the servers: it's not linked to neon (whatever that is), so it can't download anything through HTTP. That's not much of a problem right now, though, as I'll just update on my machine and upload, but it's something you should know if you ever decide to play around with SVN on the server. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 21:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
We are using redhat, and yes.. I got SVN runing on here with no problems on svn.frakmedia.net :) Shane (talk) 03:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Do you mean the SVN server or client? Either way, I get a "host not found" for svn.frakmedia.net --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 08:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Server. your right. :P I have it under apollo. Shane (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
It turns out I don't have write access to the hb directory, it's all 755 bsgwiki/bsgwiki in there. Could you run chmod -R g+w hb so the hb directory and everything inside it is writable by the bsgwiki group? --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 11:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Will do. Shane (talk) 12:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Joe beat me to it. :P Shane (talk) 12:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, uploading now. 60 MB of small files will take some time, though. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 12:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Yeah... since your overseas it will take just a little bit longer. Shane (talk) 12:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I ran the update on HB for 1.13. I'll await some tests :D Shane (talk) 15:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Bots dir done. Shane (talk) 20:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Clear to Commit

Latest comment: 16 years ago25 comments2 people in discussion

You are clear to upgrade all wikis to 1.13, Saturday 31st anytime after 0500 hours. Wikis should be backed up by 0500. Shane (talk) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Good. However, I'll be on an island on Saturday. Is it OK if I do it on another day, like tomorrow (=Thursday), Friday or Monday? Also, 0500 in which timezone? --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 08:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I rather run a MYSQL backup before we do anything. I will be back after noon my timezone EDT. I'll run a backup. In theory it can be done anytime. Saturday was the day the backup happens automaticly after the episode airs. But it shouldn't take the long for updating. Shane (talk) 10:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Alright. Drop me a note when you've done the backup. Your noon is my 6PM, so I should be able to respond quickly unless you catch me during dinner. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 10:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Reason why we are doing a single auth database is so we can use it on all the FrakMedia wikis. :) Shane (talk) 10:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Theoretically, you could (ab)use one of the existing databases for that. My update.php addition was reverted, BTW, because it tried to add the CentralAuth to all databases instead of just one. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 10:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Ok. I ran a backup of all the databases. I have created a database called "auth_wiki" same username. I will send you the password email. I am importing the SQL file into that database. I got it directly from the SVN. Anything else? Shane (talk) 11:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
BTW, update.php should drop the tables that are decrepited. It's made the EN database weird since it's been around forever and doesn't match up well with newer database looks. I don't want to manually do it since I have no idea what tables are still being used. :) Shane (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
You can see which tables are old here. update.php doesn't DROP them because wikis generally don't have DROP permissions. Thanks for the password, I'll get on it tomorrow. First I gotta watch Sine Qua Non with a couple of friends tonight :P --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Then you should have --drop-table I'll give the database user drop permissions. :D Shane (talk) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Sine Qua Non was cool, but I'm kind of tired now (it's 11 PM), so I'm gonna go get some sleep. I'll probably do the upgrade tomorrow afternoon (morning in the US). Seeing as quite a few edits were made and probably will be made today, you probably wanna run another backup tonight (your 11PM-ish, that is). --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 21:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I will run it right before I goto bed, which will be my 1am EDT. BTW -- Sleep is for the weak! :D Shane (talk) 22:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Heading to bed. It's running so it should be done by the time you read this next. Shane (talk) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Seems to only have one error: Special:MergeAccount. Is php missing something? Shane (talk) 11:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Err, what the hell? You did the upgrade? I know I didn't do anything... Anyway, it says "no wiki for bsgwiki_de", maybe something's wrong with your CentralAuth configuration? --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 11:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Yeah. LOL! I did it at 6:30am EDT. You can take a look @ the CentralAuth stuff. I done all I can do. :) Shane (talk) 11:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I will. I have real-life stuff to do, though, so I can't guarantee I'll do it this afternoon (CEST), or even today. If not today, I'll definitely do it tomorrow, though. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 12:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
rgr. I tried bring "URLBot" over to DE as a test, and it didn't work so I think that's where the error lies. Shane (talk) 12:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
It did work, just that you have to say "Keep logged in." The only other thing not working is SystemMessages and the Chinese Wiki is on the fritiz again. :P Shane (talk) 12:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I noticed the Special:Allmessages error too, looks like a PHP error. Unfortunately, I don't have enough rights. I need write rights on /home/bsgwiki (owned by the bsgwiki group, which I'm a member of, so chmod -R g+w /home/bsgwiki should do it) and read access to /var/log/httpd to find out what's causing the blank page at Special:Allmessages. --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 16:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
I did the chmod. The log files for the wiki URL are in /home/bsgwiki/logs :) Shane (talk) 17:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Yep. Was a PHP error. I had to incress the memory usage from 20mb to 30mb in the LocalSettings.php file. :X Shane (talk) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Good. Now I have a MySQL problem: I can log into MySQL with 'auth_wiki' and the password you gave me, but I don't have access to any database at all, not even 'auth_wiki'... --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
hah. ok. Log on with the bsgwiki_admin username & password. I found out when doing it has to use that one. So whatever. "auth_wiki" is still the DB name which will be bsgwiki_auth as soon as we clear this up. Shane (talk) 21:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
If you have a chance, log into the Forums and visit the IRC page (http://www.battlestarforum.com/irc.php). We can talk via that way. I am ^BuGs^ on IRC so we don't have to do this cross-talk page talk :) Shane (talk) 21:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

AntiSpoof Extension

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I know you mentioned it earlier, but if you wanted to add the AntiSpoof extension, feel free to. I'm not sure where to apply the SQL patch on this one, now that we're running the CentralAuth extension. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 05:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

global_group_permissions and global_user_groups

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I can't figure it out. So.. what I need entered is myself and Joe to have the same permissions as we have now on the EN wiki entered. Yourself added to the global Sysop and Stward List. Check this post out: http://www.battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=5683&postcount=8 You should have access to read it. :) For phpymyadmin you should be able to select loggin is as "bsgwiki_admin" in the upper right, but it's the default "server". Shane (talk) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

CentralAuth and globalgroup-permissions

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I got CentralAuth working, but GlobalGroupPermissions is a nightmare to set up... how do you get it working?? All help will be much appreciated. Thanks, AC --Sunstar NW XP 21:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

German BSG Wiki

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi

I need a little help with the edit counter on my profile; the german version of the "Family tree" templates and maybe more Can you help me? --Enabran 20:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Catrope has not been around for a long time. :( I'll check it out though. Shane (talk) 05:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
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