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Hey, page authors: spoilers from hidden fields on this page are showing up in Google right now!  If you Google "Romo Lampkin" you'll see them, even though they're not visible on this page.  And Google searches don't have spoiler warnings so guys, maybe you should get rid of those hidden fields altogether and wait till the facts have been revealed?  I've already been spoiled now myself but I'm not mad.  I'm not removing the fields because it's really up to you.  But I thought you should be aware.  --[[User:njgreen|njgreen]] 06:45, 12 March 2007 (EST)
Hey, page authors: spoilers from hidden fields on this page are showing up in Google right now!  If you Google "Romo Lampkin" you'll see them, even though they're not visible on this page.  And Google searches don't have spoiler warnings so guys, maybe you should get rid of those hidden fields altogether and wait till the facts have been revealed?  I've already been spoiled now myself but I'm not mad.  I'm not removing the fields because it's really up to you.  But I thought you should be aware.  --[[User:njgreen|njgreen]] 06:45, 12 March 2007 (EST)
:Interesting. However, please refer to our [[BW:SP|spoiler policy]], which should address your questions on the subject. Typically any "spoilers" are pretty well sourced, so the facts are revealed, per se, just not in the episode itself. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 06:02, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
:Interesting. However, please refer to our [[BW:SP|spoiler policy]], which should address your questions on the subject. Typically any "spoilers" are pretty well sourced, so the facts are revealed, per se, just not in the episode itself. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 06:02, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
::Thanks for pointing me at the policy page. I am a little new here so apologies for any misunderstanding on my part. My concern is that these spoilers are in HTML hidden fields, so it seems that they may not be intended to be visible to anyone, even to page viewers who have been warned.  Meanwhile, anyone doing a casual Google search on Lampkin will see the spoiler right away (it's only the 6th result on the page). In other words, you can see spoilers on Google that page viewers themselves can't see (without a view source anyway).  If that is still consistent with the policy, fine - as I said I'm not particularly exercised about it but I just thought you should know. Love the site, by the way.--[[User:njgreen|njgreen]] 07:57, 12 March 2007 (EST)
:::Boy do I feel silly now!  Those so-called "spoilers" appear in hidden fields on EVERY character page!  If I believed them, then every character is both a "humanoid cyclon" and "an original series cylon."  So I was making a fuss about what is essentially hidden boilerplate text.  Thanks for being patient with me throughout this funny little situation.--[[User:njgreen|njgreen]] 14:15, 12 March 2007 (EST)
::::No problem, njgreen! :-) Actually, this is interesting... We'll have to look into it, to see what we can do about it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:06, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::I know Matt Cutts at Google is head of the department that basically ensures we all get the information we need out of our searches through various search algorithms, etc.. I wonder if dropping him and his team an email would be of benefit? -[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 07:46, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::: Well, I hardly think Google is about to change their indexing scheme for little old us.  If we really want to suppress certain text from appearing in indexed search results, one solution is to embed the relevant text in a bit of Javascript which merely prints the text with <tt>document.write</tt> (this could be done easily with a template).  I'm fairly confident that the indexed search result will ''not'' evaluate Javascript from a source page; if this weren't true, we'd be seeing random pop-ups on Google search query pages. --[[User:Saforrest|Saforrest]] 21:32, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
== Parallels to real world? ==
Given the similarities in name and role as a crusader for the undefended/undefendable I can't help but think Romo's character is, at least to some extent, inspired by the real world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Lemkin Raphael Lemkin] whose plight is extensively documented in Samatha Power's book: [http://www.amazon.com/Problem-Hell-America-Age-Genocide/dp/0060541644 A Problem From Hell: America in the Age of Genocide].--[[User:Fendant|Fendant]] 03:32, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
: I think you mean [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Lemkin Raphael Lemkin] (no p in the surname). --[[User:Saforrest|Saforrest]] 21:32, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
: Indeed, noted above. Thanks --[[User:Fendant|Fendant]] 03:32, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
==Lampkin's Colony==
I was actually thinking he's from Aerelon.  He has the raspy english accent that Baltar used when showing off his original accent. --[[User:PhoenixHacker|PhoenixHacker]] 17:54, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:Well, the actor is Irish and James Callis is British. It depends on whether we go by birth colony or where he lived. It was said that he worked on Caprica. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:01, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
: Yes, it's not clear to me what the heck Baltar's Aerelon accent was.  It didn't sound particularly Irish to me, but I'm a Canadian, so my understanding of Irish/British accents is not great.  On a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerelon Wikipedia article on the Twelve Colonies], someone claimed it was a Yorkshire accent.  That sounds at least plausible to me.
: It would make some sense if the Aerelon dialect were Irish.  Both places have a history of repression by larger powers.  Plus, Michael Hogan's Northern/Eastern Ontario accent has traces of Irish influence, and since [[Saul Tigh]] is most recently from Caprica but originally from Aerelon, you could rationalize his accent as being Caprican with Aerelon influences.  I wonder, if actor's accents are consistently used to represent in-story linguistic differences, what will we see when ''Galactica'' finally meets the Thirteenth Tribe?  A few thousand years is a lot of time for linguistic innovation.  Will they be speaking Swedish or Saskrit or something? --[[User:Saforrest|Saforrest]] 21:32, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
::I think Tigh's Aerelon ancestry, which was only revealed in the BSG Magazine, has been overruled by his comments in "[[The Woman King]]" which reeked of Caprican nationalism. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:18, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
:It seems that a Northern English/Irish/Scottish accent is typically aerelon, as opposed to an American accent used throughout the other colonies.  Baltar's native tongue is definitely attempting to be Northern England (compare with Christopher Eccleston's Dr Who) with a hint of Irish; and this guy's doing a similar accent.  I've adjusted the infobox accordingly. [[User:Kev|Kev]] 17:53, 25 March 2008 (CDT) (From Yorkshire :) )
::Of course it's pretty ridiculous to ascribe a single accent to an entire planet. In reality, countries don't have a single accent to begin with, and even regions in one country can have different accents and dialects. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:04, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
:::As opposed to how most of the Human race in BSG have an American accent? ;) Yes, I agree we're clutching at straws here - but do you know that the Aerelon colony covers an entire planet, or is it the size of Jamaica?    [[User:Kev|Kev]] 18:41, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
::::There is certainly a "standard" American accent you'll hear on most mainstream television shows, but you'll be able to find distinct regional accents there too. Just as there is no British accent as such. Many people think that's the stereotypical received pronunciation, but hardly anyone talks like that. So while the show identifies an accent for Aerelon, that might be a stereotype too and we shouldn't expect everyone there to speak like that. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:58, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
:::::There could also be the element of class that could account for a variety of Aerelon accents, not to get overly fan-wanky about it  :)  -- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 00:36, 26 March 2008 (CDT)
== His accent ==
Does anyone know what was with Mark Sheppard's accent? He's from London but he had a (bad) Dublin accent in the show. Was there any official comment on this?--[[User:Johnny 0|Johnny 0]] 14:30, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
:He spoke like that in Firefly too, while born in London he is of an Irish-German background. this would explain the accent. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:07, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
== Cleanup ==
Anyone know why this was marked for cleanup? I'm feelin froggy tonight and may try to get some projects done :)--[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 21:06, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
: Well, I tagged it because I felt it needed to be visited by the [[BW:CON|concision fairy]]. Content is good, it just needs to be revised for better flow, me thinks. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 21:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:: Ok...that's what I was suposed to have gone to school for(which doesn't mean anything!), so I'll do it :)  --[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 23:45, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
== Testing? ==
OK, this is a spoiler if you haven't seen SQN yet...
We have in the article that Romo was "testing" Lee when he holds him at gunpoint. Are we sure this is the case? My initial deduction was to take it at face value, Romo was just going a little crazy. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 09:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:That's what it appears like at the beginning, but later it becomes more clear that he also wants to see what Adama truly thinks. There is probably still some craziness in it, but he isn't just flipping out for no reason :) -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:58, 11 April 2020

I bet you 50 cubits that this fellow is a Cylon. --Volostheguardian 23:15, 9 December 2006 (CST)

I certainly hope he isn't. --Sauron18 23:56, 9 December 2006 (CST)
Cylon or not he'll most likely be a "baddie", cus the actor always is. lol --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 06:49, 10 December 2006 (CST)
Actually it's Romo Lampkin.
http://www.sidesexpress.com/se_index.cfm?locid=5&task=type&l=5&c=battlestar#sr
--Deus 07:00, 10 December 2006 (CST)
Yeah, I was only about 90% certain about the exact pronunciation of his name when I listened to the podcast. That's why I didn't feel I should create this page and only posted it on The Son Also Rises--Straycat0 10:39, 10 December 2006 (CST)
Sauron18... a "lawyer" would be a perfect fit for a Cylon. Shane (T - C - E) 18:24, 6 January 2007 (CST)
Well, does he look like any of these guys? Anyway, it's certainly not a bet I'd take! Though I think it would be cooler if, as a force of evil, he was human but somehow in cahoots with the Cylons, rather like Morden from Babylon 5. --Saforrest 19:57, 26 February 2007 (CST)
Please please please ignore what the final five look like in that picture! They are only standins used for the promotional image and are never seen on screen. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 03:53, 27 February 2007 (CST)
My apologies. I knew those five were only stand-ins; I should have qualified that so as not to lead anyone astray. --Saforrest 08:32, 5 March 2007 (CST)

Hey, page authors: spoilers from hidden fields on this page are showing up in Google right now! If you Google "Romo Lampkin" you'll see them, even though they're not visible on this page. And Google searches don't have spoiler warnings so guys, maybe you should get rid of those hidden fields altogether and wait till the facts have been revealed? I've already been spoiled now myself but I'm not mad. I'm not removing the fields because it's really up to you. But I thought you should be aware. --njgreen 06:45, 12 March 2007 (EST)

Interesting. However, please refer to our spoiler policy, which should address your questions on the subject. Typically any "spoilers" are pretty well sourced, so the facts are revealed, per se, just not in the episode itself. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 06:02, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
Thanks for pointing me at the policy page. I am a little new here so apologies for any misunderstanding on my part. My concern is that these spoilers are in HTML hidden fields, so it seems that they may not be intended to be visible to anyone, even to page viewers who have been warned. Meanwhile, anyone doing a casual Google search on Lampkin will see the spoiler right away (it's only the 6th result on the page). In other words, you can see spoilers on Google that page viewers themselves can't see (without a view source anyway). If that is still consistent with the policy, fine - as I said I'm not particularly exercised about it but I just thought you should know. Love the site, by the way.--njgreen 07:57, 12 March 2007 (EST)
Boy do I feel silly now! Those so-called "spoilers" appear in hidden fields on EVERY character page! If I believed them, then every character is both a "humanoid cyclon" and "an original series cylon." So I was making a fuss about what is essentially hidden boilerplate text. Thanks for being patient with me throughout this funny little situation.--njgreen 14:15, 12 March 2007 (EST)
No problem, njgreen! :-) Actually, this is interesting... We'll have to look into it, to see what we can do about it. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 14:06, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
I know Matt Cutts at Google is head of the department that basically ensures we all get the information we need out of our searches through various search algorithms, etc.. I wonder if dropping him and his team an email would be of benefit? -Madbrood 07:46, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
Well, I hardly think Google is about to change their indexing scheme for little old us. If we really want to suppress certain text from appearing in indexed search results, one solution is to embed the relevant text in a bit of Javascript which merely prints the text with document.write (this could be done easily with a template). I'm fairly confident that the indexed search result will not evaluate Javascript from a source page; if this weren't true, we'd be seeing random pop-ups on Google search query pages. --Saforrest 21:32, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

Parallels to real world?[edit]

Given the similarities in name and role as a crusader for the undefended/undefendable I can't help but think Romo's character is, at least to some extent, inspired by the real world Raphael Lemkin whose plight is extensively documented in Samatha Power's book: A Problem From Hell: America in the Age of Genocide.--Fendant 03:32, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

I think you mean Raphael Lemkin (no p in the surname). --Saforrest 21:32, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
Indeed, noted above. Thanks --Fendant 03:32, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

Lampkin's Colony[edit]

I was actually thinking he's from Aerelon. He has the raspy english accent that Baltar used when showing off his original accent. --PhoenixHacker 17:54, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

Well, the actor is Irish and James Callis is British. It depends on whether we go by birth colony or where he lived. It was said that he worked on Caprica. --Serenity 18:01, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
Yes, it's not clear to me what the heck Baltar's Aerelon accent was. It didn't sound particularly Irish to me, but I'm a Canadian, so my understanding of Irish/British accents is not great. On a Wikipedia article on the Twelve Colonies, someone claimed it was a Yorkshire accent. That sounds at least plausible to me.
It would make some sense if the Aerelon dialect were Irish. Both places have a history of repression by larger powers. Plus, Michael Hogan's Northern/Eastern Ontario accent has traces of Irish influence, and since Saul Tigh is most recently from Caprica but originally from Aerelon, you could rationalize his accent as being Caprican with Aerelon influences. I wonder, if actor's accents are consistently used to represent in-story linguistic differences, what will we see when Galactica finally meets the Thirteenth Tribe? A few thousand years is a lot of time for linguistic innovation. Will they be speaking Swedish or Saskrit or something? --Saforrest 21:32, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
I think Tigh's Aerelon ancestry, which was only revealed in the BSG Magazine, has been overruled by his comments in "The Woman King" which reeked of Caprican nationalism. --April Arcus 22:18, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
It seems that a Northern English/Irish/Scottish accent is typically aerelon, as opposed to an American accent used throughout the other colonies. Baltar's native tongue is definitely attempting to be Northern England (compare with Christopher Eccleston's Dr Who) with a hint of Irish; and this guy's doing a similar accent. I've adjusted the infobox accordingly. Kev 17:53, 25 March 2008 (CDT) (From Yorkshire :) )
Of course it's pretty ridiculous to ascribe a single accent to an entire planet. In reality, countries don't have a single accent to begin with, and even regions in one country can have different accents and dialects. -- Serenity 18:04, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
As opposed to how most of the Human race in BSG have an American accent? ;) Yes, I agree we're clutching at straws here - but do you know that the Aerelon colony covers an entire planet, or is it the size of Jamaica? Kev 18:41, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
There is certainly a "standard" American accent you'll hear on most mainstream television shows, but you'll be able to find distinct regional accents there too. Just as there is no British accent as such. Many people think that's the stereotypical received pronunciation, but hardly anyone talks like that. So while the show identifies an accent for Aerelon, that might be a stereotype too and we shouldn't expect everyone there to speak like that. -- Serenity 18:58, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
There could also be the element of class that could account for a variety of Aerelon accents, not to get overly fan-wanky about it  :) -- Fredmdbud 00:36, 26 March 2008 (CDT)

His accent[edit]

Does anyone know what was with Mark Sheppard's accent? He's from London but he had a (bad) Dublin accent in the show. Was there any official comment on this?--Johnny 0 14:30, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

He spoke like that in Firefly too, while born in London he is of an Irish-German background. this would explain the accent. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 03:07, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Cleanup[edit]

Anyone know why this was marked for cleanup? I'm feelin froggy tonight and may try to get some projects done :)--RUSnooky 21:06, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

Well, I tagged it because I felt it needed to be visited by the concision fairy. Content is good, it just needs to be revised for better flow, me thinks. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New 21:41, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
Ok...that's what I was suposed to have gone to school for(which doesn't mean anything!), so I'll do it :) --RUSnooky 23:45, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

Testing?[edit]

OK, this is a spoiler if you haven't seen SQN yet...

We have in the article that Romo was "testing" Lee when he holds him at gunpoint. Are we sure this is the case? My initial deduction was to take it at face value, Romo was just going a little crazy. OTW 09:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

That's what it appears like at the beginning, but later it becomes more clear that he also wants to see what Adama truly thinks. There is probably still some craziness in it, but he isn't just flipping out for no reason :) -- Serenity 09:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Reply