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== Middle Name == | == Middle Name == | ||
Is this the first example of a middle name that we've encountered? I don't recall them for any other character to date. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:07, 5 October 2006 (CDT) | Is this the first example of a middle name that we've encountered? I don't recall them for any other character to date. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:07, 5 October 2006 (CDT) | ||
:We have middle initials for [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Karl Agathon]]. --[[User: | :We have middle initials for [[Samuel Anders]] and [[Karl Agathon]]. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 12:08, 5 October 2006 (CDT) | ||
:Note that the spelling of Nicholas's middle name is open to debate. I chose "Stephen" over "Steven" on a whim. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 16:02, 8 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
==Roman Numerals== | ==Roman Numerals== | ||
It seems incongruous to me to refer to "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" right next to "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance, Part 10". We should either go with one system or the other, and roman numerals are clearly favored throughout the site for "Kobol's Last Gleaming", "Home", "Resurrection Ship", and "Lay Down Your Burdens". --[[User: | It seems incongruous to me to refer to "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" right next to "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance, Part 10". We should either go with one system or the other, and roman numerals are clearly favored throughout the site for "Kobol's Last Gleaming", "Home", "Resurrection Ship", and "Lay Down Your Burdens". --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:14, 5 October 2006 (CDT) | ||
:It's not "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance, Part 10", it's "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance, Episode 10". If it were Part 10, I understand your argument but since they are termed 'webisodes' or 'episodes', it's not a 'Part' anything. The Part in "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II" refers to the storyline but it is really Episode 13 of Season 1 just as Episode 10 is webisode 10 of the "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance" season. I think the roman numericals are reserved for storyline arcs rather than episode numbering. --[[User:straycat0|Straycat0]] 16:02, 5 October 2006 (AST) | |||
::You have a point, but one could also argue that the webisodes are just one story split into 10 parts. That's how I see them --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:43, 5 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
:::Yeah, but the 1st 7 episodes of season 2 all tell a continuous story thread but only Home, Pts I & II are named Parts. All I know is that there being called Episodes or Webisodes, not Parts, so following that naming convention, regardless of whatever they are in actuality, anything that's being called an episode or a season should have an Arabic Numerical (1, 2, 3, etc.) and anything that's being called a Part should get a Roman Numerical (I, II, III, etc.). --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 16:43, 5 October 2006 (AST) | |||
== "actor" name == | |||
[http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/pic/000xfzap/g285 This] site states the child's name as Finn Devit. But I'm not sure if we should use that. Especially with such young kids it's probably not uncommon to use different ones, because they can look very similar. And they might change the ages completely since the time in BSH moves at a different pace than reality (time jumps and such). --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:08, 18 January 2007 (CST) | |||
==half cylon?== | |||
Since Hera is included in the cylon category by being half-cylon I figured it was only fair to include Nicholas in the same category in light of the revelation about his father. --[[User:Meteor|Meteor]] | |||
:Indeed, Nicholas is confirmed as a half-Cylon in the Frak Party podcast. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:30, 8 April 2007 (CDT) | |||
::Uh, not anymore. I guess the Frak Party isn't canon anymore? --[[User:JakiChan|JakiChan]] | |||
:::<s>IMO there's two plausible explanations. IMO the most likely possibility is that he's all human, in which case the writers changed their minds in between the Frak Party podcast and the writing of this episode or they had already decided and RDM lied in order to avoid giving away a spoiler. It's also possible that his real father's Anders or Tigh, which would indicate that the tests Cottle ran can't identify a half-Thirteenth Tribe Cylon. I suspect we'll get a definitive answer in the podcast.</s> -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 08:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::They changed their minds. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::::Yep, the podcast explained everything. The real father's Hot Dog and they made the decision while they were writing the episode. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 21:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::::Oops, I didn't notice that Hot Dog was identified as the father in the episode until I re-watched it. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 23:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 01:54, 11 April 2020
Middle Name
Is this the first example of a middle name that we've encountered? I don't recall them for any other character to date. --Steelviper 12:07, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
- We have middle initials for Samuel Anders and Karl Agathon. --April Arcus 12:08, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
- Note that the spelling of Nicholas's middle name is open to debate. I chose "Stephen" over "Steven" on a whim. --April Arcus 16:02, 8 October 2006 (CDT)
Roman Numerals
It seems incongruous to me to refer to "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" right next to "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance, Part 10". We should either go with one system or the other, and roman numerals are clearly favored throughout the site for "Kobol's Last Gleaming", "Home", "Resurrection Ship", and "Lay Down Your Burdens". --April Arcus 15:14, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
- It's not "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance, Part 10", it's "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance, Episode 10". If it were Part 10, I understand your argument but since they are termed 'webisodes' or 'episodes', it's not a 'Part' anything. The Part in "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II" refers to the storyline but it is really Episode 13 of Season 1 just as Episode 10 is webisode 10 of the "Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance" season. I think the roman numericals are reserved for storyline arcs rather than episode numbering. --Straycat0 16:02, 5 October 2006 (AST)
- You have a point, but one could also argue that the webisodes are just one story split into 10 parts. That's how I see them --Serenity 17:43, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
- Yeah, but the 1st 7 episodes of season 2 all tell a continuous story thread but only Home, Pts I & II are named Parts. All I know is that there being called Episodes or Webisodes, not Parts, so following that naming convention, regardless of whatever they are in actuality, anything that's being called an episode or a season should have an Arabic Numerical (1, 2, 3, etc.) and anything that's being called a Part should get a Roman Numerical (I, II, III, etc.). --Straycat0 16:43, 5 October 2006 (AST)
- You have a point, but one could also argue that the webisodes are just one story split into 10 parts. That's how I see them --Serenity 17:43, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
"actor" name
This site states the child's name as Finn Devit. But I'm not sure if we should use that. Especially with such young kids it's probably not uncommon to use different ones, because they can look very similar. And they might change the ages completely since the time in BSH moves at a different pace than reality (time jumps and such). --Serenity 12:08, 18 January 2007 (CST)
half cylon?
Since Hera is included in the cylon category by being half-cylon I figured it was only fair to include Nicholas in the same category in light of the revelation about his father. --Meteor
- Indeed, Nicholas is confirmed as a half-Cylon in the Frak Party podcast. -- Noneofyourbusiness 23:30, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
- Uh, not anymore. I guess the Frak Party isn't canon anymore? --JakiChan
IMO there's two plausible explanations. IMO the most likely possibility is that he's all human, in which case the writers changed their minds in between the Frak Party podcast and the writing of this episode or they had already decided and RDM lied in order to avoid giving away a spoiler. It's also possible that his real father's Anders or Tigh, which would indicate that the tests Cottle ran can't identify a half-Thirteenth Tribe Cylon. I suspect we'll get a definitive answer in the podcast.-- Gordon Ecker 08:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)- They changed their minds. -- Noneofyourbusiness 16:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, the podcast explained everything. The real father's Hot Dog and they made the decision while they were writing the episode. -- Gordon Ecker 21:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, I didn't notice that Hot Dog was identified as the father in the episode until I re-watched it. -- Gordon Ecker 23:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, the podcast explained everything. The real father's Hot Dog and they made the decision while they were writing the episode. -- Gordon Ecker 21:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- They changed their minds. -- Noneofyourbusiness 16:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Uh, not anymore. I guess the Frak Party isn't canon anymore? --JakiChan