Talk:Baltar (TOS)/Archive 1

Baltar Todo

This page could use a couple of inline bio pics. --Steelviper 09:38, 22 February 2006 (EST)

Yes. --The Merovingian 09:46, 22 February 2006 (EST)

You guys need to fix his page. The more used title was "Count". It was mentioned again after the pilot episode by, I think, Spectre ("The Young Lords") when he's BSing his superior. Spectre addresses him by the title of "Count" and Baltar says something like "I'm pleased you know my title." I not even sure where you got "Lord Baltar".

For the trivia buffs, in the original pilot, the character was NOT a member of the Council of Twelve. This was later changed (along with his beheading) in the episode "Lost Planet of the Gods" where he does his spiel about being a member of the Council, having the medallion, etc. This has caused a bit of a headache among nitpicky fans since when you see the Council at the table on the Atlantia, there are thirteen people for twelve colonies.

I also don't know what the deal is with the last note about the changes in the scenes with the new Imperious Leader and fan speculation. If you actually watch the episode "Lost Planet of the Gods", Baltar is trying to get Adama to attack the Cylon capitol when Lucifer launches an attack on Kobol which infuriates Baltar.

For the ultra trivia buffs, the specific location filmed for the exteriors of "Gamoray base" was the Oviatt Library at California State University, Northridge.

And couldn't you have found a nicer picture of Mr. Colicos? One with the gleeful smile? He does have a few fans.--Eugenia 05:52, 9 February 2007 (CST)

I'll review "The Young Lords" again, but I honestly don't recall Spectre using Baltar's title. There's much to say about the "olive branch" scene being cut from the beginning of LPOG, when that content was transferred from the Epilogue to "Saga of a Star World". Also, Baltar's motives were really in question, and were never really clarified–did he want to cross the Cylons or did he want to deliver the humans to Cylon. Also, the fact that the subject of the peace offering was never touched upon again, not to mention the subsequent attacks against the Fleet, lead many to logically conclude that the peace offering was retconned. As for the picture, I happen to agree. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 10:20, 9 February 2007 (CST)

I'll try to work on the picture. Suggested episodes/scenes would be appreciated. I also agree with the confusion of the motives. I don't think it's really clear who he was really planning to betray (the Cylons or the Colonials), or whether he was just setting them both up and would just take advantage whichever opportunity seemed best at the time. The ambiguity of his motives jive VERY well with Gaius Baltar, but for the rest of the series he's pretty much a straight villain. --Steelviper 10:32, 9 February 2007 (CST)

Original Series definition: a title of nobility (e.g. Count Iblis)

Original Series definition: a title of nobility (e.g. Lord Baltar)