Talk:Pegasus (Extended Version)/Archive 1

I had initially thought this could be a subsection on "Pegasus (episode)", but I think our analysis of all of the material in Pegasus: Extended Version would run so long, on the already long "Pegasus" article page, that we should pre-emptively set it up as a separate episode page. More on this when the DVD comes out. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 04:07, 6 August 2006 (CDT)

Just noticed that there's an own page for it. I'll go ahead an do a chronological list of the changes first. This might take a few hours --Serenity 05:12, 14 September 2006 (CDT)

Ok, I made a chronological list that should include just about everything important. I had the episode running on my computer and compared it with a transcript of the original version and in some cases with a video file of it. There might be some tiny things missing, but probably nothing big.
I also included a bit of analysis on how some scenes change the episode, a few quotes, and I removed the redundant "official comments" that listed some of those scenes.
English isn't my native tongue, so you might want to check it for errors in spelling and grammar. --Serenity 08:39, 14 September 2006 (CDT)

Looks good. Some others will do that spelling and grammar. --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 08:42, 14 September 2006 (CDT)

About that edit in "questions": "* Sharon being actually raped makes her nearly catatonic state in "Resurrection Ship, Part II" more believable."
Actually I did mean "RS, Part One. The scene between her Cottle and Adama where Adama apologizes. Not the one where Tyrol and Helo visit her in the cell or the Adama/Sharon conversation. She was a bit more lively there
I admit though, that the interpretation is subjective and other people might see it different. For me her breaking down and crying immediately after the rape fits more with it being carried out than attempted. Interestingly, there is one fragment in RS where Helo says "attempt" (to Fisk) while the rest the episodes treat it more like it really happened. --Serenity 05:19, 16 September 2006 (CDT)

She was in a state of shock, not catatonia, in part I. In part II she was more catatonic-like (sitting in a corner and blankly playing with a pillow) until she saw Helo. Her immediate crying in Pegasus and her shock in part 1 are consistent with attempted as well as actual rapes. Noneofyourbusiness 10:10, 16 September 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, catatonia is probably too strong a word. How about saying "her state of shock" then, and linking to both episodes? --Serenity 10:23, 16 September 2006 (CDT)

That entire note seemed so wrong-headed and offensive that I removed it. Philwelch 23:24, 29 September 2006 (CDT)

Maybe it doesn't really make it more believable, but I stand by my opinion that it makes Adama's and Cottle's reaction more powerful and meaningful. Sharon should probably be shocked at attempted rape too, but just staring blankly ahead seemed a bit much for what happened. I think that scene was written/filmed with the full version in mind --Serenity 05:03, 30 September 2006 (CDT)

I found the note insightful. Can you please clarify the nature of your objection? --Peter Farago 20:43, 30 September 2006 (CDT)

I agree with it being insightful. And visit to BW:CIV wouldn't hurt. --FrankieG 21:28, 30 September 2006 (CDT)

As mentioned earlier, Sharon's behavior is "consistent with attempted as well as actual rapes". The note seems to imply that as long as the rapist doesn't actually succeed in penetrating his victim, the victim has no right to be traumatized by the attack. I find that offensive and ignorant. Philwelch 23:04, 30 September 2006 (CDT)