Talk:Humanoid Cylon/Archive4

12 Cylon or 12 Humano-Cylon models?

At the end of the miniseries, Adama discovers a note in his quarters. The note clearly reads, "THERE ARE ONLY 12 CYLON MODELS". I believe this settles the issue. Philwelch 01:34, 2 Apr 2005 (EST)

However, I believe (though I have no links) that RDM has said something to the effect that the comment referred to merely 12 humanoid Cylon models, not all Cylons. It wouldn't be the first time they changed something from the miniseries for the show (for example, Helo or the Cylon Raiders switch form missiles to guns). Plus, if you add up all the different Cylons seen so far, I think it's already over 12. Kuralyov 13:39, 19 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Are we debating where the note in Adama's quarters, and 6's statements to Baltar about there being "12 Cylon Models" refers to 12 Humano-Cylon body types, in which case we have confirmed sightings of 4.

If we include ALL Cylons, this would add Cylon Warrior, Cylon Raider, Transports, and Cylon Basestar, this brings the total up to 8.

If we include Cogitators and Cylon Centurion from the first war, that brings us up to 10.

Grimlock 21:21, 19 Jun 2005 (EDT)

PS How do I include a link, as I've done here, but with different text? And while I'm at it, what is a good way to find the link I'm looking for?

Do it like this (but without the spaces between the brackets): [ [Adama, William|Commander Adama] ]

And I think it'd be more than ten; there are:

1. Cylon Centurian (seen in miniseries museum)
2. Original Basestar (seen in miniseries museum)
3. Original Raider
4. New Raider
5. New Basestar
6. Warrior
7. Transport
8. Number Six
9. Conoy
10. Doral
11. Boomer

So, going by the reasoning that there are twelve total models of Cylons including all the different Humanoid variants, that means there's a grand total of one more Cylon to be revealed. And since in press releases RDM has said that Season Two will introduce "one or two new Cylons" that's clearly not true. Kuralyov 23:45, 19 Jun 2005 (EDT)

You're assuming that the original basestar, raider, and centurian are current models. Perhaps they're old models that have been replaced, and do not count against the twelve—after all, you don't say "there are twelve models of Mercedes-Benz" and then count every model they've manufactured since 1965. Staying with current models leaves us with:

1. Basestar
2. Centurion
3. Raider
4. Boomer
5. Doral
6. Six
7. Leoben Conoy

leaving several more to be revealed. (One of the new Cylons, by the way, is another avatar of Number Six, and not a new model). Another thing—if you're going to throw out the miniseries in order to eliminate the note left in Adama's quarters, then that cuts against the only appearance of the original Cylon Centurion, etc. Philwelch 16:53, 7 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Unless those sneaky Cylons lied about the 12 thing just to mess with the cast's head... Random thought: Six specified that she is Model 6 of 12. I know "model" heavily implies something physical, but have any of they Cylons specified that "model" refers to their bodies?

I guess where I'm going with this is that could "model" by like a "personality model?" That said, certain personality models might have an affinity for a certain body type. Like Conoy #2 might have woken up as a Cylon Warrior or as a #6 because another Conoy body wasn't available at the time.

Or not. I'm a little zorched Grimlock 06:56, 26 Jun 2005 (EDT)

That is an interesting theory; however, I don't think there's any evidence either way to prove it. I eman, so far, all the 6s have acted like 6s, all the Dorals have acted like Doral, etc. But the way they explain their 'regeneration' makes it seem like they could easily move to another type of Cylon body. But then again, I don't imagine that they'd have a problem with spare bodies, or maybe their consciousness cna just be stored until a new body becomes available.Kuralyov 11:17, 26 Jun 2005 (EDT)

So if 12 models just means Humano-Cylon models, who are the remaining 8? So far we have

1. Number Six
2. Conoy
3. Doral
4. Boomer

I've read Lucy Lawless will be one of the 2 revealed this season, so that'd be 5. I've heard discussions of Col Tigh's wife, Lt Gaeta, Lee Adama, and I had suspicions about Petty Officer Dualla reinforced when the Cylons boarded the ship but she was found alone and alive surrounded by dead crewmembers. I also had suspicions of Commander Adama just because he acts so strangely. For example, he received that clue about only 12 models, but never mentioned it to anyone, and continued on like it was nothing. Maybe Boomer tried to kill him because she knows he's a Cylon and the human emotion part of her overcame her cylon side for a split second... Anyways, does anyone have any serious intel about this? Does another number 6 called Gina (albeit brunette, but same model) count as one of the two new cylons revealed this season?

One more thing. One common thread with the female cylons is that they REALLY enjoy frakking (Sharon with Helo, Sharon with the chief, 6 with Baltar, 6 flirting with Adama), so are Starbuck, Dualla, and Ellen Tigh just healthy horny women, or are they cylons too?EagleDriver 2:23, 30 Jul 2005 (CDT)