Talk:Precipice/Archive 1

Spoiler Source

I've listened through a couple episodes of the linked radio show. It appears to be a political talk show - which episode contained the spoiler details, and how were they presented? --Peter Farago 22:39, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

Further, could you tell us which specific episode this info appears in? What if this guy just saw the same early (wrong) script drafts I mentioned before, then read them on radio as if fact? --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 22:55, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

Peter, I'm trying to get to the bottom of all of these rumors: I consider them all as "accurate" as the unfounded rumors that the show would move to NBC! I asked Ron's wife in the messageboard but she has yet to return for a day or two and I'm iffy on whether or not she'd answer questions like this: I prefeced it by saying that I wasn't just a fan, but reporting it on BattleStarWiki and would spread corrections to other news sites, etc. (roving reporter) so I didn't just sound like one man that wanted to know. I hope that helped. But seriously, all of this isn't adding up. --->if you follow the link to that supposed early draft page, half of it has cross out marks on it. And usually most of an episode is heavily revised. IF this is even real! --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 22:59, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

The cross-out marks are for the parts that the oracle character isn't in, since it's a casting side for that particular role. --Peter Farago 23:04, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

Gotcha. My other complaints stand. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 23:26, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

Kuralyov, if you can't provide an exact source, this needs to be deleted. --Peter Farago 20:20, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

That's kind of what I meant, yeah Peter. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 20:28, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

Well, I wanted to give him a chance to get back to us about it. Do we even have a source for the title? If not, we should just delete the page outright. --Peter Farago 20:29, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

Yes, but meanwhile, we have to have SOMETHING for "Occupation" even though I think it's not true, because Gateworld and such already reported it, but just to keep warnings in saying that we don't know how true it is. We've all seen wrong rumors before, haven't we? Last time I trusted one of these things, I thought that Cally would kill Crashdown in "Fragged"! After that I realized how unreliable these "early reports" are. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 20:32, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

We're not talking about Occupation here, and the source of those rumors (the casting side) is a settled matter anyway. Gateworld is no longer cited. The question is, do we have a source for "Precipice"? Even gateworld would be sufficient here, just something better than Kuralyov's word and a link to a talk radio station. --Peter Farago 20:36, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

Yes. To be honest, when I followed the link I couldn't even find the interview, but this may be due to my own lack of techno savvy :) --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 20:39, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

I must be having trouble communicating today - No, I couldn't find it either, which is why I've brought this up. If Kuralyov can identify the particular interview in question, then we can cite it directly and keep the content he added here. --Peter Farago 20:43, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

Found it. Transcribing. --Peter Farago 20:50, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

LV Rocks Transcript

Shaun O'Mac: What's your big Battlestar Galactica news?

Koenigrules: Allright, well. Gateworld.com some of the plot synopsis to episode one which is called "Occupation". However, I've got some interesting tidbits. It is true that Lucy Lawless, Number Three, will be in the first one. And brother Cavil, Dean Stockwell, is coming back—

SO: Uh-oh.

KR: —as well, in the first one. And guess who he is frackin'?

SO: Uh-oh!

KR: He is frackin'... Ellen Tigh.

SO: [Laughs] You're kidding me! [Laughs]

KR: No, no I'm not.

SO: He— so, Dean Stockwell is with Ellen Tigh. Allright.

KR: Yeah. [laughs]

SO: And what— where's the colonel?

KR: Uh, he is in a Cylon detention facility.

SO: What the hell? You're kidding. Why is he being detained?

KR: I don't know the specifics, except they're torturing him.

SO: Oh no.

KR: and his eye is gouged out.

SO: Uh-oh. Uh-oh. What? So they gouged out his eye? And so what is it, what is it, just hanging from his face, in the epi— or what? Or is— it's gone completely, huh?

KR: All I know is he's not— he's not the same person anymore.

SO: Wowww. Really.

KR: So maybe he'll wear an eyepatch, that oughta be cool, huh?

SO: Yeah, like a pirate. Arrrgh. Arrrgh.

KR: Yeah, there you go. Really dark and gritty, huh?

SO: Oh, poor Colonel. He was so nice in the season finale there, with the— with the Starbuck and all that, and now he gets—

KR: —and maybe he'll have a beard, maybe a hook.

SO: Aw. Awww.

KR: Wooden leg?

SO: He'd be Captain Hook.

KR: A cylon parrot?

SO: [laughs] [untingelligable] they'll go that far with that character. Well I mean, ah well, y'know, what else do you have? Is— He's not gonna die, is he?

KR: He isn't, but—

SO: —Uh-oh—

KR: Around episode four, yes, Ellen Tigh is going to die.

SO: Oh, no! She's leavin'. Oh, man.

KR: Man. Well, you heard it hear first, right?

SO: Well, yeah. Well...

KR: In fact, there's going to be a couple significant deaths—

SO: —Uh-oh—

KR: —in these first couple episodes, but uh—

SO: —wow—

KR: —the one that I heard definitely confirmed is Ellen Tigh.

SO: Woah, really. A couple of significant deaths? Really. Wonder who that could be. I mean they've—

KR: I don't know.

SO: —they've killed off pretty much everybody else that we seem to care about on this show.

KR: I think that they're going to be creating a leaner and meaner Galactica, probably so that they can do more special effects—

SO: —ah, I see—

KR: —so they might not have as many of the incidental characters as they've had in the previous seasons.

SO: Really.

KR: That's my guess, because some of the cool effects really showed up in the last episode in the end. My guess is they're going to be creating some really nice special effects in season three. Make it more, y'know, the type of Sci-Fi that we've come to expect from Galactica.

SO: Well, that'd be good, it'd be good if they could take a look at Dr. Who—

KR: —yeah—

SO: And see what they're doing—

KR: Yeah, well, I think they could do that too, because with Dr. Who, if you notice the two primary characters are the doctor and her, and then if you add Mickey and the mother, that's about it. So, y'know, I mean, if they can go in for more of those CG effects, than I think probably with Galactica. It's been amazing how they have been able to hold on to a lot of that cast from the miniseries. It really is.

SO: Mhm.

KR: Some other news is that there's gonna be dissension in the ranks in the Cylons, not everyone is agreeing to this occupation thing—

SO: —ohh—

KR: So my guess is that probably the six and the eight might uh— might—

[beep]

SO: Whup!

KR: Hello, you there?

SO: Yes.

KR: —might be the emissaries of peace—

SO: —oh really—

KR: —that were from the "Downloaded" episode. Because if you notice, even in the finale it looked like they were a little bit concerned, she was a little bit concerned about Baltar. Y'know, I mean, it seemed like they didn't necessarily like what was going on, so there's gonna be a lot of dissension. There's gonna be a lot of— also, of, torture and abuse of the prisoners. A lot of double agents.

SO: Really.

KR: Yeah.

SO: So alls we know is Tigh's gonna be lock— where's he locked up? Is he on the planet is some kind of prison?

KR: Yes, yes.

SO: Really.

KR: Yes, it's a Cylon detention facility on the planet. So it sounds to me like probably he's— he must have created a big stink with the occupation, and that's why put him on ice, so to speak.

SO: Huh. That's ah, that's amazing. And [stammers] Anders? Is he dead in the new season, do we know?

KR: Actually, Anders is plotting an attack against the Cylons, so at least in the very first episode he's very much alive. And the first episode does take place, I think I told you this, four months later.

SO: Well he must make a miraculous recovery, 'cause he was— he had pneumonia.

KR: Well, maybe, or maybe Starbuck got the medicine from Lee.

SO: Reall— well—

KR: y'know.

SO: well, yeah, well well well well well but no, 'cause she was on the, on the, on the ph—

KR: Oh that's right.

SO: She was on the phone with him when the Cylons showed up, and they jumped away.

KR: That's right. So he might be— you're right, he might be on his last legs.

SO: Now the, during this first episode, where are the Galactica and Pegasus? Are they gonna be seen at all, or they're just off?

KR: If they are, it's going to be a side story—

SO: Oh.

KR: —but I think most of the action is going to be taking place on the planet itself, and it looks like— it looks like it's going to be jam-packed with a lot of stuff going on.

SO: Do we know if the first episode's gonna be a one hour, or is it gonna do like a 90 minute premiere?

KR: It's going to do, it's going to be one hour, but it's the first part, so. And I got this, the title for episode two is "Precipice".

SO: Ooh.

KR: Ooh.

SO: Ooh. "Precipice", yeah. It's like they're gonna go over the edge there, huh?

KR: Yeah.

SO: That's interesting. Well, 'cause they said that what, they're gonna spend how many weeks, how many episodes on the planet, they're gonna—

KR: Yeah, he was saying something like four or five episodes, so my guess is they're doing something similar to what they did with season two, with Adama sort of in the background. I think they're gonna do that now with Adama and Lee in the background with the two battlestars, and then probably in episode four or episode five, they'll get back with the fleet.

SO: Well, that makes sense, 'cause y'know if Olmos doesn't wanna be in y'know, all twenty episodes, it's a good way to kind of, and it makes sense, having to edit him out without having to throw him on his deathbed every season.

KR: Yeah, it's going to be interesting when they join back up with the fleet. My guess is— what would be really interesting is that Baltar's still president—

SO: —ohh—

KR: Of the colonies, and then Tom Zarek is the vice president, so there's gonna be a lot of friction when they join back up with the fleet, but this sounds pretty cool. It really does. Sounds like Tigh's going to have a very meaty part in this, and Ellen, sounds like she gets a little bit of a meaty part before she gets knocked off. So all those rumors that said she was a Cylon: nope.

SO: Really now. Huh.

[Interview continues, transcript ends]

Question about Koenigrules

I know that he is a big name on Galacticastation.com, and a regular contributor at Subject2Discussion since its inception, but just exactly how "sourced" is this source? How does Koenigrules know this stuff? Is it possible...that he simply read the same stuff we did? What are HIS qualifications? Great work transcribing Peter. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)}