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:No, Zarek encourages Baltar to run for president in The Captain's Hand: Baltar hadn't even considered it seriously before Zarek brought it up.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 22:06, 12 July 2006 (CDT)
:No, Zarek encourages Baltar to run for president in The Captain's Hand: Baltar hadn't even considered it seriously before Zarek brought it up.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 22:06, 12 July 2006 (CDT)


No, you are wrong. I have reviewed the scenes in question and there is no indication that Zarek has convinced Baltar to run at the end of their scene together in The Captain's Hand. It is ambiguous, at the very least. Zarek may have opened his eyes to the possibility of running and winning, but there is no definitive indication that Baltar WILL INDEED run at the end of their conversation together. You are making unwarranted assumptions. I could just as easily argue that Six convinced Baltar to run since her image appears to him at the exact moment he appears to decide to make the announcement of his candidacy. She has many times previously pushed him to ascend to the presidency, and that interpretation is equally logical and supportable. I believe you are overstepping the bounds of reporting into the area of excessive interpretation. ----[[User:Elach|Elach]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Elach|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Elach|E]])</sup> 23:06, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
No, you are wrong. I have reviewed the scenes in question and there is no indication that Zarek has convinced Baltar to run at the end of their scene together in The Captain's Hand. It is ambiguous, at the very least. Zarek may have opened his eyes to the possibility of running and winning, but there is no definitive indication that Baltar WILL INDEED run at the end of their conversation together. You are making unwarranted assumptions. I could just as easily argue that Six convinced Baltar to run since her image appears to him at the exact moment he appears to decide to make the announcement of his candidacy. She has many times previously pushed him to ascend to the presidency, and that interpretation is equally logical and supportable. I believe you are overstepping the bounds of reporting into the area of excessive interpretation. ----Elach 23:06, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
:Going to have to agree to the above statements pertaining to the scene evidence. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 01:18, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
:Going to have to agree to the above statements pertaining to the scene evidence. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 01:18, 13 July 2006 (CDT)

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Is there a source for his being "summarily imprisoned" as opposed to "imprisoned", i.e. for the lack of a trial? --CalculatinAvatar

He is now vice president according to RDM - http://www.pegasusgalaxy.com/interviews/ronmoore.php - Lordmutt 20th March, 2006

Very interesting! :) Can we add the Vice President box with a spolier tag?? --Shane (T - C - E) 05:28, 21 March 2006 (CST)

Example setup:


Preceded by:
Gaius Baltar
Vice-President of the Twelve Colonies of Kobol Succeeded by:
Incumbent


Edit: Yeah. We would have to add a spolier tag on the top and this tag right before it if we did. And right now I don't think it should be there.

For the record, you don't have to use the spoiler tags on the talk pages. They are considerd "spoiler-safe" zones in accordance to Battlestar Wiki:Spoiler Policy. -- Joe Beaudoin 08:43, 21 March 2006 (CST)
I skipped right over it. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:45, 21 March 2006 (CST)

No evidence that Zarek convinced Baltar to run for prez

I know of no evidence in the show that supports the following statement:

"...Zarek decides not to run against her because he realizes he probably won't win the election...but he decides that there's someone else that might be able to unseat Roslin, vice president Gaius Baltar. Zarek manages to talk vice president Gauis Baltar into running in his place..."

As far as the scenes actually broadcast in the show are concerned, Baltar makes his decision to run for the presidency entirely on his own, probably on the spur of the moment at Roslin's press conference, and never with any prior consultation with Zarek. It is not the case that Zarek "manages to talk" Baltar into "running in his place..." The above statement imagines more contrivance on Zarek's part than is supported by the facts.--Elach

No, Zarek encourages Baltar to run for president in The Captain's Hand: Baltar hadn't even considered it seriously before Zarek brought it up. --The Merovingian (C - E) 22:06, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

No, you are wrong. I have reviewed the scenes in question and there is no indication that Zarek has convinced Baltar to run at the end of their scene together in The Captain's Hand. It is ambiguous, at the very least. Zarek may have opened his eyes to the possibility of running and winning, but there is no definitive indication that Baltar WILL INDEED run at the end of their conversation together. You are making unwarranted assumptions. I could just as easily argue that Six convinced Baltar to run since her image appears to him at the exact moment he appears to decide to make the announcement of his candidacy. She has many times previously pushed him to ascend to the presidency, and that interpretation is equally logical and supportable. I believe you are overstepping the bounds of reporting into the area of excessive interpretation. ----Elach 23:06, 12 July 2006 (PDT)

Going to have to agree to the above statements pertaining to the scene evidence. --Shane (T - C - E) 01:18, 13 July 2006 (CDT)