Talk:Sherman Cottle/Archive 1: Difference between revisions

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Am I the only one who thinks cottle is a cylon?--Glaucon

No, he's apparently well known, has been there for years, and seems to (at least) have been old enough to have been in the Cylon War. --The Merovingian 03:25, 26 February 2006 (EST)

I appreciate your response. Particularly since, having glanced at several of the other discussions, you apparently know the subjects far better than I and appear to be somewhat of a scholar. Nevertheless, having now glanced at the page about such speculation, I believe some of the assumptions to be unwarrented or at least weakly supported. The most obvious being apparent age. ( forgive me if I don't give citations, but I am remembering rather than running them down and I believe your familiarity will make it unncessary.) I saw it mentioed at one point that the cyrlon models represent archtypes, a father/wiseman/partiarch (perhaps even shaman/doctor) arhetype would possibly be created old as would a martriarch/etc.etc. ( I am unaware if there is any evidence one way or another that they physically age with time, but supposing arguendo that they do, this maight account for the seeming greater ages of earlier numbered models than that of newer models - though it would also imply that those downloaded at death actually enter "unused" rather than new bodies, six revives in a body just like her's not a younger version of it.) I also don't find the number or years agrument to be compelling as far as I recall the only statement on how the cylons have been around is in given by Six to Balter and implied by Sharon. Six is clearly an unrealiable narrator, both through manipulation and perhaps through knowledge. All we know for sure that she can speak on is her own time since insertion and we cant necessarily trust that she is honest about that. --Glaucon 13:29, 2 March 2006 (CST) Gluacon

A) Number Six was being honest to other Cylons in "Downloaded", B) While Doctor Cottle's PHYSICAL age doesn't really matter--yes, as seen in the upcoming Cavil-model, they can be old--what I mean is that Doctor Cottle has apparently been serving for many years aboard Galactica and other ships and is well-known. Cylons would tend to be people whose past cannot be confirmed. --The Merovingian 13:47, 2 March 2006 (CST)

Question: Can anyone get screencaps of Dr. Cottle in a Major's Uniform from Downloaded? I don't think Apollo's quick promotion made him change his uniform in Captain's Hand, so I think that here is the first time we see what a Major's uniform actually looks like: But my problem is that it is dark: does the Major's uniform have a white line, or a gold line? I cannot tell. --The Merovingian 03:25, 26 February 2006 (EST)

If Cottle has a different uniform because he's a major, doesn't this mean that Lee did as well during his tenure as Major? -- Joe Beaudoin 07:40, 26 February 2006 (EST)

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 :I appreciate your response.  Particularly since, having glanced at several of the other discussions, you apparently know the subjects far better than I and appear to be somewhat of a scholar.  Nevertheless, having now glanced at the page about such speculation, I believe some of the assumptions to be unwarrented or at least weakly supported.  The most obvious being apparent age. ( forgive me if I don't give citations, but I am remembering rather than running them down and I believe your familiarity will make it unncessary.)  I saw it mentioed at one point that the cyrlon models represent archtypes, a father/wiseman/partiarch (perhaps even shaman/doctor) arhetype would possibly be created old as would a martriarch/etc.etc.  ( I am unaware if there is any evidence one way or another that they physically age with time, but supposing arguendo that they do, this maight account for the seeming greater ages  of earlier numbered models than that of newer models - though it would also imply that those downloaded  at death actually enter "unused" rather than new bodies, six revives in a body just like her's not a younger version of it.)  I also don't find the number or years agrument to be compelling as far as I recall the only statement on how the cylons have been around is in given by Six to Balter and implied by Sharon.  Six is clearly an unrealiable narrator, both through manipulation and perhaps through knowledge.  All we know for sure that she can speak on is her own time since insertion and we cant necessarily trust that she is honest about that.  --[[User:Glaucon|Glaucon]] 13:29, 2 March 2006 (CST) Gluacon
+A) Number Six was being honest to other Cylons in "Downloaded", B) While Doctor Cottle's PHYSICAL age doesn't really matter--yes, as seen in the upcoming Cavil-model, they can be old--what I mean is that Doctor Cottle has apparently been serving for many years aboard Galactica and other ships and is ''well-known''.  Cylons would tend to be people whose past cannot be confirmed.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 13:47, 2 March 2006 (CST)
 Question: Can anyone get screencaps of Dr. Cottle in a Major's Uniform from Downloaded?  I don't think Apollo's quick promotion made him change his uniform in Captain's Hand, so I think that here is the first time we see what a Major's uniform actually looks like:  But my problem is that it is dark:  does the Major's uniform have a white line, or a gold line?  I cannot tell. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 03:25, 26 February 2006 (EST)
 : If Cottle has a different uniform because he's a major, doesn't this mean that Lee did as well during his tenure as Major? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 07:40, 26 February 2006 (EST)