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This is the overview. Basically, a ''summary'' of what the idea is about. You can get into the details later on.
This is the overview. Basically, a ''summary'' of what the idea is about. You can get into the details later on.


DRAFT - not even close to finished, but I welcome discussion [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 01:55, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
DRAFT - not even close to finished, but I welcome discussion [[User:Eghm|Eghm]] 01:55, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


=== {{{1|Errors Policy}}} ===
=== Errors Policy ===


A policy to guide what constitues [[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29]] vs Produciton errors or  [[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#Danglers|Dangling plot lines]] in Battlestar Galactica while [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|assuming good faith]] on the part of the writers, without resorting to [[Wikipedia:Fanwank|fanwanking]]. This policy would be linked to from the various (small number of) error pages.
A policy proposal; started by [[User:Eghm|Eghm]], in reaction to the various levels of [[Wikipedia:Suspension of disbelief|suspending disbelief]] discussed on  [[Talk:Continuity errors (RDM)#Suspending Disbelief|continuity errors talk]]. The goal of this policy is to provide guidelines of what constitutes [[Continuity errors (RDM)|continuity errors]] vs Production errors or  [[Continuity errors (RDM)#Danglers|Dangling plot lines]] in Battlestar Galactica while [[Battlestar Wiki:Assume good faith|assuming good faith]] on the part of the writers, without resorting to [[BW:FANW|fanwanking]]. This policy would be linked to from the various (small number of) error pages.  


[[User:Eghm]] is willing to take point on this, but given the nature of [[Wikipedia:Suspension_of_disbelief|suspending disbelief]] others contributions are welcome.  [[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29]] list some things given various levels of [[Talk:Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#Suspending_Disbelief|suspending disbelief]] that not all wiki users agree are errors.
[[Wikipedia:Continuity (fiction)#Continuity errors|Continuity Errors]] requires some understanding of the continuity goals of the show, RDM wrote the BSG Bible and has mentioned them in podcasts. There are also some wiki pages: [[Naturalistic science fiction]], [[Life Forms of the Twelve Colonies]].


[[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#Acknowledged_Mistakes|Acknowledged Mistakes and fixes]]- The show has acknowledged a mistake and fixed it.
When deriving continuity errors based on character dialogue there are two extremes (with plenty of gray area between) of believing that characters have perfect knowledge and never lie or characters do not have perfect knowledge and are capable of lieing adding to this is the personality of the character.  Baltar's Cylon Detector is a good example of where an individual audience members stance can effect how they interpret possible continuity errors.  When Baltar tests Boomer, the test only takes a few minutes however in [[Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down]] it is stated that one test takes 11 hours.  Some people see this as an obvious continuity (writer) error.  Other possible explanations have been offered such as; given Baltar's reaction to Boomers positive test, he realizes it may be a bad idea to have a possible Cylon present when the results come in.  Or it could be that 11 hours is the maximum amount of time the test takes and he got "lucky" with Boomer's test, or he could be "sandbagging" so as to have time to pursue other things (such as woman, the vice presidency, etc.) or given his Cylon collaboration he could be stalling.


Production errors - things which involve the production of the show such as the reflection of crane raising the raptor in the Miniseries after Helo shoots the civilian off the wing on Caprica, seeing off set, seeing cast, seeing boom mics, etc.
Microsoft mouse vs Hummer bits to go here...


[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Continuity_(fiction)#Continuity_errors|Continuity Errors]] -  This would be a good place to link in some of the continuity stuff RDM talks about in his podcast so the wiki's concept of continuity is in line with the continuity goals of the show. [[Life_Forms_of_the_Twelve_Colonies]].
Continuity sub categories:
:[[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#Dialogue_Errors|Dialogue Errors]] - Continuity errors specific to things said which do not belong to the BSG universe (Jesus, world famous, etc.)
:[[Continuity errors (RDM)#Dialogue Errors|Dialogue Errors]] - Continuity errors specific to things said which do not belong to the BSG universe (Jesus, world famous, etc.)
:[[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#VFX_Gaffes|VFX Gaffes]] - Continuity errors specific to special effects.
:[[Continuity errors (RDM)#VFX Gaffes|VFX Gaffes]] - Continuity errors specific to special effects.
:[[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#Prop_and_Equipment_Errors|Prop and Equipmnent Errors]] - Continuity errors specific to props and set.
:[[Continuity errors (RDM)#Prop and Equipment Errors|Prop and Equipmnent Errors]] - Continuity errors specific to props and set.
:[[Wikipedia:Retcon|Retcons]] - "adding of new information to "historical" material, or deliberately changing previously established facts in a work" - [[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#Retcons|BSG Retcons]]
:[[Wikipedia:Retcon|Retcons]] - "adding of new information to "historical" material, or deliberately changing previously established facts in a work" - [[Continuity errors (RDM)#Retcons|BSG Retcons]]
:Plot holes - Continuity error where the plot has progressed without the audiance, beyond some certain level of suspended belief, not to be confused with dangling plot lines.
:Plot holes - Continuity error where the plot has progressed without the audiance, beyond some certain level of suspended belief, not to be confused with dangling plot lines.


[[Continuity_errors_%28RDM%29#Danglers|Dangling plot lines]] - Plot lines that have been started, but not continued.
Production errors - things which involve the production of the show such as the reflection of crane raising the Raptor in the Miniseries after Helo shoots the civilian off the wing on Caprica, seeing off set, seeing cast, seeing boom mics, etc.
 
[[Continuity errors (RDM)#Danglers|Dangling plot lines]] - Plot lines that have been started, but not continued.
 
[[Continuity errors (RDM)#Acknowledged Mistakes|Acknowledged Mistakes and fixes]]- The show has acknowledged a mistake and fixed it.
 
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Latest revision as of 01:57, 28 January 2008

This is an archive of an unsuccessful proposal that was vetted through the Think Tank, a place where ideas of all kinds are proposed and worked upon by the community prior to implementation. Please do not modify this proposal.

This is the overview. Basically, a summary of what the idea is about. You can get into the details later on.

DRAFT - not even close to finished, but I welcome discussion Eghm 01:55, 15 September 2006 (CDT)

Errors Policy[edit]

A policy proposal; started by Eghm, in reaction to the various levels of suspending disbelief discussed on continuity errors talk. The goal of this policy is to provide guidelines of what constitutes continuity errors vs Production errors or Dangling plot lines in Battlestar Galactica while assuming good faith on the part of the writers, without resorting to fanwanking. This policy would be linked to from the various (small number of) error pages.

Continuity Errors requires some understanding of the continuity goals of the show, RDM wrote the BSG Bible and has mentioned them in podcasts. There are also some wiki pages: Naturalistic science fiction, Life Forms of the Twelve Colonies.

When deriving continuity errors based on character dialogue there are two extremes (with plenty of gray area between) of believing that characters have perfect knowledge and never lie or characters do not have perfect knowledge and are capable of lieing adding to this is the personality of the character. Baltar's Cylon Detector is a good example of where an individual audience members stance can effect how they interpret possible continuity errors. When Baltar tests Boomer, the test only takes a few minutes however in Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down it is stated that one test takes 11 hours. Some people see this as an obvious continuity (writer) error. Other possible explanations have been offered such as; given Baltar's reaction to Boomers positive test, he realizes it may be a bad idea to have a possible Cylon present when the results come in. Or it could be that 11 hours is the maximum amount of time the test takes and he got "lucky" with Boomer's test, or he could be "sandbagging" so as to have time to pursue other things (such as woman, the vice presidency, etc.) or given his Cylon collaboration he could be stalling.

Microsoft mouse vs Hummer bits to go here...

Continuity sub categories:

Dialogue Errors - Continuity errors specific to things said which do not belong to the BSG universe (Jesus, world famous, etc.)
VFX Gaffes - Continuity errors specific to special effects.
Prop and Equipmnent Errors - Continuity errors specific to props and set.
Retcons - "adding of new information to "historical" material, or deliberately changing previously established facts in a work" - BSG Retcons
Plot holes - Continuity error where the plot has progressed without the audiance, beyond some certain level of suspended belief, not to be confused with dangling plot lines.

Production errors - things which involve the production of the show such as the reflection of crane raising the Raptor in the Miniseries after Helo shoots the civilian off the wing on Caprica, seeing off set, seeing cast, seeing boom mics, etc.

Dangling plot lines - Plot lines that have been started, but not continued.

Acknowledged Mistakes and fixes- The show has acknowledged a mistake and fixed it.

The above is an archive of a proposal that was vetted through the Think Tank. Please do not modify or edit this archived proposal.