Editing User talk:Homeworld

You have contacted the Homeworld.  Apologies, but I am not available at the moment because my colony was recently nuked to death in a Cylon-led holocaust and I am probably writhing in agony on a street somewhere, groping for some anti-radiation meds.  If this is the Fleet, please be advised that I am working on a the Battlestar Wiki project for the Twelve Colonies while you search for refuge on Earth.  Feel free to leave a message of any sort, from business to history to a pleasant hello and anything in between and I will get back to you shortly.  Good Luck! -- Homeworld  

:::::::Nice.  Of couse, movies cut out a lot from the original production.  That time-constraint stuff is a real kill-joy.  The details you described would have been awesome in the movie.  Of couse, I have to ask, why would Evey need to become V?  With the Government toppled and anarchy in every UK republic why does there need to be a new V?  Also, I bet in the movie Parliament was abandonned as well and just kept looking nice for national pride and BTN backdrops.  No one in the Government ever mentioned it as a functioning legislative body, just as a building.  All power seemed to lie with Sutler and Creedy.  By the way, what was the fate of the United States in the graphic novel?  I know that in the movie my country was basically obliterated by the War on Terror and we're trapped in a massive-scale, bloody second civil war and desperate for supplies (Prothero does a really nice job of cussing us out in the opening).  There's actually a funny filming gaffe there.  You know after Sutler orders Dascomb to send that message of near-doom to the people?  When the BTN is reporting on the Second Civil War, the news poppet says "In the former United States the second civil war continues to ravage the Midwest."  There was a small inset screen showing Americans toting M16s shooting up trucks, convenience stores and strip malls.  The funny thing was, there were palm trees outside one of the malls so that was filming Florida or southern California.  The Midwest is full of wheat and no palm trees.  That just cracked me up. --[[User:Homeworld616|Homeworld616]] 20:54, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

:::::::"''Nice. Of couse, movies cut out a lot from the original production. That time-constraint stuff is a real kill-joy. The details you described would have been awesome in the movie. Of couse, I have to ask, why would Evey need to become V? With the Government toppled and anarchy in every UK republic why does there need to be a new V?''"------>V explicitly makes all of this clear in a speech.  He explains that there are 2 sides to Anarchy; it's not just chaos.  It's people governing for themselves.  So half of it is destroying, the rest is rebuilding and making sure it rebuilds ''right'' this time.  V himself is a destroyer; he has no place in the rebuilding phase of Anarchy, while Evey does.  In the movie, V suicidally takes on Creedy and his men:  **V could easily have killed all of them without risking his life**; he wanted to die; his place in the world died with the end of Norsefire.  **Similar** thing happens in the novel, though I think the movie did it better; in the novel, in a very similar scene, Finch figures out that the Shadow Gallery is really in the ruins of Victoria Station, goes there and V *anticipated* his arrival; V *LETS* Finch shoot him, and then leaves.  It's expressely stated by Finch that he shouldn't have been able to kill V, but that V *Wanted* to die.  This is the part the movie screwed up--->A huge crowd of people masses in front of 10 Downing Street (Parliament in the movie) and are about to riot when word comes over the loudspeakers that Codename V is dead.  (V dies with Evey as in movie, though in the Shadow Gallery's main hall).  Everyone hesistates; then Evey-as-V (Evey put on a spare V costume and becomes the new V) stands on a rooftop and announces that reports of "his death...were greatly exaggerated".  Remboldened, the crowd rushes the soldiers and a bloody battle ensues.  B) I don't really notice such little things like "midwest but there's palm trees"; 1) they're just running stock footage of fighting somewhere else 2) the US has balkanized or something into several smaller fighting regions, like the former USSR.  The USA is really only mentioned in passing in the movie and we can't really piece together what's going on.  Rather than a "second civil war", it's more like the soviet breakup; dozens of tiny fiefdoms carved out of the corpse.  3) '''I assumed that BTN was making up or exaggerating most of it as propaganda anyway'''.  "''By the way, what was the fate of the United States in the graphic novel?''"--->They don't really mention it that much, but the key difference is that '''in the graphic novel there was a *limited* nuclear war, while in the movie there was a massive bio-terror attack'''.  The idea in the graphic novel is that there was a nuclear war, but because Britain was officially neutral, there were no nuclear attacks on Britain itself.  ***However, the outside world is decimated.  It's worse than in the movie.  Continental Europe, and Africa, simply "aren't there anymore!"  They're gone.  USA and USSR nuked each other to ashes.  In the graphic novel its different:  although not nuked directly, massive ecological damage wreaks havoc on Britain (the Thames floods out most of London, disease is rampant, food scarce, etc.); years later they've kind of rebuilt, but things are pretty shaky (that's also why the London Underground was abandoned in the novel; flood damage, as opposed to the movie where after the bio-terror attack everyone was afraid to use them and they were sealed off and/or abandoned.  --------->Anyway, the idea is that Norsefire is the only thing holding "Britain" together as they really haven't recovered from the ecological/economic devastation of the war....this makes V's actions even more gray: in the movie, all is well with Norsefire gone; in the graphic novel, serious questions are raised that destroying the *bad* government might make everything simply fall apart.  ------->Of course, in the foward to the graphic novel from a few years ago, the writer acknowledged taht when he wrote it in the 1980's they thought there was such a thing as "a survivable nuclear war", but that now experts thought that even a "limited" nuclear war was unsurvivable.  So I think using bio-terrorism weapons instead in the movie was the more "realistic" way of updating the idea; still a weapon of mass destruction, but more plausible.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] ^{([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])} 01:51, 20 August 2006 (CDT)