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Thanks for your note, Bradterm.  Actually, I hadn't forgotten Shelly Godfrey ([[Talk:Humanoid_Cylon_speculation#The_Eight_Cylons_in_the_fleet|I even mentioned her myself elsewhere]]), but I just don't think we can assume she was wtill with the fleet at the time of Boomer's statement.  In addition to the question of whether she was real at all (raised in the [[Shelly Godfrey]] article), there's the fact of her mysterious disappearance, along with the difficulty of her remaining hidden in the fleet after the widespread circulation of her photograph.
Thanks for your note, Bradterm.  Actually, I hadn't forgotten Shelly Godfrey ([[Talk:Humanoid_Cylon_speculation#The_Eight_Cylons_in_the_fleet|I even mentioned her myself elsewhere]]), but I just don't think we can assume she was wtill with the fleet at the time of Boomer's statement.  In addition to the question of whether she was real at all (raised in the [[Shelly Godfrey]] article), there's the fact of her mysterious disappearance, along with the difficulty of her remaining hidden in the fleet after the widespread circulation of her photograph.


Frankly, I don't think we can conclude a lot about this unknown Cylon, if it exists.  I would guess it is either Godfrey or a copy of Simon (he was the only one of the 12 who hadn't either had his cover blown or had a copy with the fleet already).  I've reworded the statement on [[Final five]] to reflect this uncertainty, though I've left in a reference to Godfrey as a possible candidate. Later, --[[User:Saforrest|Saforrest]] 17:54, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
Frankly, I don't think we conclude a lot about this unknown Cylon, if it exists.  I would guess it is either Godfrey or a copy of Simon, since Simon was the only one of the 12 who hadn't either had his cover blown or had a copy with the fleet already.  I've reworded the statement on [[Final five]] to reflect this uncertainly, though I've left in a reference to Godfrey as a possible candidate. Later, --[[User:Saforrest|Saforrest]] 17:54, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 
:Yeah, I know the Shelly theories, but right now they're in the highly-speculative category, and there's no real way off the fleet short of death, so I would have to presume she's there until we get evidence otherwise.  If she's a physical version of virtual-six, then that's a very major revalation, as much as we might suspect it.  As now it's unexplained how, after Gina was found, they did not turn up Shelly in a fleet hunt, but if Gina could hide, so could she.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 18:06, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 
== Traffic, and guest bloggers ==
Thanks for the links! If you're curious sometime, I think Shane can run some stats about how much traffic you're sending our way (at least directly through links). We generally rate pretty high on Google searches for specific terms, and thankfully due to relevant content (and not the "keyword spam" games of old, if such things work anymore). Traffic will likely be light, though, until show-related activity resumes.
 
I might be interested in writing a guest piece. I doubt I could be a regular, and my "wiki-training" of citing sources has created something of a mental barrier with regards to actually generating content, but I have an idea for a little piece comparing and contrasting the new and old Baltar. It'd likely do me some good to flex my creative writing muscles now and again. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:19, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
:Ok, to try your hand, create an account on the blog, and E-mail me btm of templetons.com so I can enable it with posting permissions.  The rest is explained at [http://ideas.4brad.com/guide-writing-site the writing guide]. --[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 18:26, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 
== Flesher/Colonial/Cylon neurobiology ==
 
I like your "made-up back-story for Battlestar Galactica". The technology described to create fleshers clearly is synthetic biology (the design and construction of new biological parts, devices, and systems, and the re-design of existing, natural biological systems). It's different from conventional genetic engineering in that it aims to construct entire new living systems from wholly new DNA created by human design. Living systems that do not already exist in the natural world.
 
Here is a description of flesher/colonial/cylon neurobiology that perhaps you could incorporate into your theory:
 
The neurons of fleshers (e.g. colonials, humanoid cylons) have many internal components and chemical compounds that are completely unique. Although organic, they do not exist in normal human nerve cells or anywhere else in nature for that matter.
 
The unique properties of these components causes the neurons to generate electrical signals that are digital in nature. This means that the consciousness that emerges from flesher/cylon brains is based totally upon electronic digital information transfer rather than electrochemical interactions like the natural human brain. This in turn means that flesher/cylon consciousness is fundamentally an advanced artificial intelligence software program encased in what is essentially an organic computer system (i.e. highly advanced computing platform). That's why their consciousness can interface with a ship's computer and can even be trasmitted like a computer program...because it IS a computer program. A computer program via biological hardware.
 
What do you think of this theory?
 
-- [[User:Troyian|Troyian]] 03:37, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
 
== Apocalyptic Thoughts ==
 
Hi, Brad. Just wanted to say "well done" to the sourced insight on the term "apocalypse" in the [[The Destiny]]. Believing it a significant find, I expounded on it with several examples, noting that [[oracle]]s appear to be willing heralds to both sides, whereas [[Hybrid]]s are opposite. Take a look when you have a moment and adjust as you see fit. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:33, 1 December 2007 (CST)
* Thanks. I wrote a bunch more (with speculation) at [http://ideas.4brad.com/cylon-god-and-his-prophecy this blog post] but I think right now the role of Hybrids and Oracles in prophecy is mostly speculation.  In particular, I think the first hybrid is on no side (being both man and machine) and is in fact an incarnation of the Cylon god.  But we'll see.  What is factual is the ambiguous (or commonly misinterpreted) meanings of apocalypse, harbinger and "its end."  I do think that the title of an upcoming episode being "revelations" is important. --[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 14:26, 1 December 2007 (CST)
 
== E-mail conversation about [[The Last Supper]] ==
 
Do you still have those e-mails? Would you (and Ryan, of course) agree to them (or an excerpt of them) being put in [[Sources:The Last Supper]]? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:I do have the E-mail, it was just yesterday.  She said she has mailed to Moore to get him to clarify, but he is on vacation, and she will publish her result, so I was holding for that, however, I felt the report from her that he did not say what she put in brackets was worth documenting as a temporary measure. --[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 17:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::OK, we can just source her when she publishes it then. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 19:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Rollback of [[Galen Tyrol]] ==
It's been awhile since I watched that episode, but I don't recall that happening. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 15:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Your "made-up back-story" ==
 
*Just out of curiosity. When are you going to update your "A made-up back-story for Battlestar Galactica..." on your website with the info that was revealed in "No Exit"?
 
With Jane Espenson's latest comments that imply there is no real Earth (ie. that as far as she is concerned Kobol is the human homeworld in this universe) it seems the writers are not going in that direction, and I guessed wrong.  So I may never do that unless we get some alternate clues that say she's lying.  Right now it looks like the show takes place not in the future and not in the past, but in another reality.    Now, some of the ideas might turn out to be true as to why there were AI wars on Kobol and Cylon Earth, but I don't even know if the show is going to explain that at all.  The Kobol story is going to be left to other media like comics, it sounds like.--[[User:Bradtem|bradtem]] 01:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Battlestar Galactica: The Final Five ==
 
*Just curious. Have you checked out the comic book miniseries? --- [[User:Troyian|Troyian]] 22:51, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 
Yes.  I know it's supposed to be some form of canon, but a lot of it doesn't fit.  Sam being a drifter killed for experimentation doesn't feel right, he was supposed to have been a major rock star, author of All Along the Watchtower, and an essential part of the team (Ellen said it needed all 5 to recover the resurrection plan.)  Ditto Saul having almost no involvement in the tech.  In the show they were a team with deep feelings and emotions.
 
I was glad to see some suggestion that centurion memories got into the human Cylons, at least Cavil.  it's not clear if they made it into anybody else, though.  Does Cavil remember being Zoe or Tamara? 
 
The small number of generations shown also doesn't make sense.  They built all of Earth-1 in just a generation?  Perhaps with metal robot labour.  We were told they had lost resurrection and switched to sexual reproduction, but that was just once?
 
Pythia as Starbuck?  I didn't like Starbuck's fate so I don't like this either.  And if the angel always shows up as Helfer in a red dress, where did they get the DNA for six from?--[[User:Bradtem|bradtem]] 23:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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