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:I changed "function" to "role", and "side" to "race" (Pegasus and Galactica weren't exactly on the same "side", once upon a time). I made direct substitutions in the template, but now the boxes are showing up wrong. Why?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:57, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :I changed "function" to "role", and "side" to "race" (Pegasus and Galactica weren't exactly on the same "side", once upon a time). I made direct substitutions in the template, but now the boxes are showing up wrong. Why?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:57, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::Nevermind, I figured it out.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:58, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::Nevermind, I figured it out.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:58, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::I don't really like "Race" here. Any other ideas? Nationality, maybe? --[[User: | :::I don't really like "Race" here. Any other ideas? Nationality, maybe? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:18, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::Well it's better than "side". I used it as a placeholder. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:30, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::Well it's better than "side". I used it as a placeholder. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:30, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::Okay, so any other ideas? I think "nationality" is easily more appropriate than "race", even if it's still not great. --[[User: | :::::Okay, so any other ideas? I think "nationality" is easily more appropriate than "race", even if it's still not great. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:25, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::I kept eyeing it when I was changing the other wordings; I couldn't do better. Rejected '''candidates''': side, allegiance, species, used by, designed by --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::I kept eyeing it when I was changing the other wordings; I couldn't do better. Rejected '''candidates''': side, allegiance, species, used by, designed by --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::: Idea: '''Operator''' --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:52, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::: Idea: '''Operator''' --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:52, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::: Dislike. --[[User: | :::::: Dislike. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:53, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::: Well, the autonomous raiders cause a problem: technically, they aren't so much operated as... well, not.--[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 16:04, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::::: Well, the autonomous raiders cause a problem: technically, they aren't so much operated as... well, not.--[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 16:04, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::I think that "Used by" is the least bad of those, FWIW. Maybe "Utilized by"? --[[User: | :::::I think that "Used by" is the least bad of those, FWIW. Maybe "Utilized by"? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:53, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::::Another idea with '''Utilized''' (for "type" instead of "Type".... '''Built'''. My mind is going blank. :-P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:00, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::::Another idea with '''Utilized''' (for "type" instead of "Type".... '''Built'''. My mind is going blank. :-P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:00, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::::I could live with "Utilized by," but I would note that non-Cylons have at least twice utilized Cylon vehicles and the Cylons could be interpreted to have utilized the Olympic Carrier. On those grounds, I'd prefer "Built by." --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 16:04, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::::::I could live with "Utilized by," but I would note that non-Cylons have at least twice utilized Cylon vehicles and the Cylons could be interpreted to have utilized the Olympic Carrier. On those grounds, I'd prefer "Built by." --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 16:04, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
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::::I do not use MA as a "research" tool unless I am looking something up on Star Trek. Wikipedia is my main source for online Enyclypiedia. Plus my photographic memeory servers me pretty well. The reason "race" appears on MA is because in Star Trek there are more than one race... Humans, Vulcuns, etc. Here was have humans and machines. Last time I checked out discussions on this wiki we refer to the Cylons as innamite objects and I have yet to see an Alien on BSG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::I do not use MA as a "research" tool unless I am looking something up on Star Trek. Wikipedia is my main source for online Enyclypiedia. Plus my photographic memeory servers me pretty well. The reason "race" appears on MA is because in Star Trek there are more than one race... Humans, Vulcuns, etc. Here was have humans and machines. Last time I checked out discussions on this wiki we refer to the Cylons as innamite objects and I have yet to see an Alien on BSG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::MA is a research tool on the design of a good fan wiki; it behooves one to learn from others' experience. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::::MA is a research tool on the design of a good fan wiki; it behooves one to learn from others' experience. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::"Side" just sounds clunky to me. --[[User: | :::"Side" just sounds clunky to me. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:29, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::I could hjave used another word, but when doing design, you want it to be very simple. That's why I choose Side in the first place. Simple. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:31, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::I could hjave used another word, but when doing design, you want it to be very simple. That's why I choose Side in the first place. Simple. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:31, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::I appreciate that. I hope you also appreciate our attempts to refine the terminology. --[[User: | :::::I appreciate that. I hope you also appreciate our attempts to refine the terminology. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:34, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::::No problem in this department. I had the template created for such a long time and no one ever commented on it, I thought it was OK. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:37, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::::No problem in this department. I had the template created for such a long time and no one ever commented on it, I thought it was OK. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:37, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::::You only ''implemented'' it today. That's why I never commented on it; it wasn't "finished" yet, so I didn't make complaints. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:39, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::::::You only ''implemented'' it today. That's why I never commented on it; it wasn't "finished" yet, so I didn't make complaints. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:39, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
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===Consensus=== | ===Consensus=== | ||
Any objections to switching to "utilized by" until we can think of something better? --[[User: | Any objections to switching to "utilized by" until we can think of something better? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:39, 10 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:"Affiliation"? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 21:05, 14 April 2006 (CDT) | :"Affiliation"? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 21:05, 14 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
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:I concur. They look bad in the page proper. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 11:24, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | :I concur. They look bad in the page proper. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 11:24, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
::Well it's mostly info from Scifi.com, but yeah. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:04, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ::Well it's mostly info from Scifi.com, but yeah. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:04, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::Just a friendly reminder from the citation fairy to note sources on dimensions at the bottom of the article. --[[User: | :::Just a friendly reminder from the citation fairy to note sources on dimensions at the bottom of the article. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:36, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
::So I guess I will jup in and make some changes to the template. Don't be alarmed. We going to have to goto each page and add the extra "info" tabs so the template isn't messy. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:17, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ::So I guess I will jup in and make some changes to the template. Don't be alarmed. We going to have to goto each page and add the extra "info" tabs so the template isn't messy. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:17, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::Nevermind. Solved that problem. Check out [[Colonial One]] for a update with the new template. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:37, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | :::Nevermind. Solved that problem. Check out [[Colonial One]] for a update with the new template. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:37, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
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:forgot this one... feet or meters? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:11, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | :forgot this one... feet or meters? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:11, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
:How about both, like X feet X inches (X.XX m)--[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:47, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | :How about both, like X feet X inches (X.XX m)--[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:47, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
==Images== | ==Images== | ||
I'd like to simply not have the image at top if none is available, rather than using the large question mark over the starfield. As for additional images, rather than link them through the template, why not use the gallery extension like on Cloud 9? --[[User: | I'd like to simply not have the image at top if none is available, rather than using the large question mark over the starfield. As for additional images, rather than link them through the template, why not use the gallery extension like on Cloud 9? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:44, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
:Would have to see how that works inside a template. The problem is an "array" seems it have problems, but I can look into it. On the questionmark issue, we do it with otherthings. I don't see it as a major problem. Really minor. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:15, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | :Would have to see how that works inside a template. The problem is an "array" seems it have problems, but I can look into it. On the questionmark issue, we do it with otherthings. I don't see it as a major problem. Really minor. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:15, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
::tried the gallery tag. Because the gallery needs to be on it's own line it formats wrong. I would need the gallery.php file so I can work on it myself, so I could fit it up. Joe, do you know where you got it or can you send it to my email? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:27, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ::tried the gallery tag. Because the gallery needs to be on it's own line it formats wrong. I would need the gallery.php file so I can work on it myself, so I could fit it up. Joe, do you know where you got it or can you send it to my email? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:27, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
::We don't need the gallery to be inside the template. --[[User: | ::We don't need the gallery to be inside the template. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:52, 18 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::I forgot about the gallery section thing that we have. Ill see what I can do. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 02:46, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | :::I forgot about the gallery section thing that we have. Ill see what I can do. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 02:46, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::Could do a "link".... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:52, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | :::Could do a "link".... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:52, 19 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
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Just leting everyone know. This will take a few more things off ship pages. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:20, 9 June 2006 (CDT) | Just leting everyone know. This will take a few more things off ship pages. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:20, 9 June 2006 (CDT) | ||
== | == Delete: Per disucssion of Template talk:Location Data == | ||
Per disucssion of [[Template talk:Location Data]], [[Scylla]] falls under not having enough information, there for the template must be deleted. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:37, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | |||
: Firstly, discussion between two people, in this case yourself and [[User:Peter Farago|Peter]] doesn't determine consensus. Plus there isn't anything written anywhere that says each ship page ''has'' to have a infobox. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 13:15, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | |||
::The argument is not that everyship must have a "infobox", is that the information in the article it self is suffuincant for someone to understand what the information is and what the "ship" must have to be a ship about without having to have an information box. [[Scylla]] is just one example of many other pages with this template. I point out past revsions of [[Galactica (RDM)]] that does not have the ship template, but listed everything in the article. There for this template is not needed per the reasons peter gives. If the consensus is to delete [[Template:Location Data]], then this template, like the other [[:Category:Infobox|infoboxs]], should be deleted along the same lines. [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Galactica_%28RDM%29&direction=prev&oldid=44700 Previous Galactica Diff] --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:23, 11 June 2006 (CDT) | |||