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Good idea, very useful. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 05:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | Good idea, very useful. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 05:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:Found a good place to use it. That template or table that was used for the Heavy Radier was.. well.. ugly. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:41, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :Found a good place to use it. That template or table that was used for the Heavy Radier was.. well.. ugly. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:41, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:I changed "function" to "role", and "side" to "race" (Pegasus and Galactica weren't exactly on the same "side", once upon a time). I made direct substitutions in the template, but now the boxes are showing up wrong. Why?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:57, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :I changed "function" to "role", and "side" to "race" (Pegasus and Galactica weren't exactly on the same "side", once upon a time). I made direct substitutions in the template, but now the boxes are showing up wrong. Why?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:57, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::Nevermind, I figured it out.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:58, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::Nevermind, I figured it out.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:58, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::I don't really like "Race" here. Any other ideas? Nationality, maybe? --[[User: | :::I don't really like "Race" here. Any other ideas? Nationality, maybe? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:18, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::Well it's better than "side". I used it as a placeholder. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:30, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::Well it's better than "side". I used it as a placeholder. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:30, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::Okay, so any other ideas? I think "nationality" is easily more appropriate than "race", even if it's still not great. --[[User: | :::::Okay, so any other ideas? I think "nationality" is easily more appropriate than "race", even if it's still not great. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:25, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::I kept eyeing it when I was changing the other wordings; I couldn't do better. Rejected '''candidates''': side, allegiance, species, used by, designed by --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::I kept eyeing it when I was changing the other wordings; I couldn't do better. Rejected '''candidates''': side, allegiance, species, used by, designed by --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::: Idea: '''Operator''' --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:52, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::: Idea: '''Operator''' --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:52, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::: Dislike. --[[User: | :::::: Dislike. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:53, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::I think that "Used by" is the least bad of those, FWIW. Maybe "Utilized by"? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:53, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | |||
:::::I think that "Used by" is the least bad of those, FWIW. Maybe "Utilized by"? --[[User: | |||
:: How can an inanmite object have a race? When we say F/A-18 we say side, U.S. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:27, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :: How can an inanmite object have a race? When we say F/A-18 we say side, U.S. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:27, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::Shane...did you research this? I check and no ship, airplane like the F/A-18, or anything on wikipedia or MemoryAlpha supports that "we" say "side". It's the "race" that it belongs to. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:32, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::Shane...did you research this? I check and no ship, airplane like the F/A-18, or anything on wikipedia or MemoryAlpha supports that "we" say "side". It's the "race" that it belongs to. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:32, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::I do not use MA as a "research" tool unless I am looking something up on Star Trek. Wikipedia is my main source for online Enyclypiedia. Plus my photographic memeory servers me pretty well. The reason "race" appears on MA is because in Star Trek there are more than one race... Humans, Vulcuns, etc. Here was have humans and machines. Last time I checked out discussions on this wiki we refer to the Cylons as innamite objects and I have yet to see an Alien on BSG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::I do not use MA as a "research" tool unless I am looking something up on Star Trek. Wikipedia is my main source for online Enyclypiedia. Plus my photographic memeory servers me pretty well. The reason "race" appears on MA is because in Star Trek there are more than one race... Humans, Vulcuns, etc. Here was have humans and machines. Last time I checked out discussions on this wiki we refer to the Cylons as innamite objects and I have yet to see an Alien on BSG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::MA is a research tool on the design of a good fan wiki; it behooves one to learn from others' experience. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::::MA is a research tool on the design of a good fan wiki; it behooves one to learn from others' experience. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::"Side" just sounds clunky to me. --[[User: | :::"Side" just sounds clunky to me. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:29, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::I could hjave used another word, but when doing design, you want it to be very simple. That's why I choose Side in the first place. Simple. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:31, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::I could hjave used another word, but when doing design, you want it to be very simple. That's why I choose Side in the first place. Simple. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:31, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::I appreciate that. I hope you also appreciate our attempts to refine the terminology. --[[User: | :::::I appreciate that. I hope you also appreciate our attempts to refine the terminology. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:34, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
::::::No problem in this department. I had the template created for such a long time and no one ever commented on it, I thought it was OK. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:37, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ::::::No problem in this department. I had the template created for such a long time and no one ever commented on it, I thought it was OK. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:37, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
:::::::You only ''implemented'' it today. That's why I never commented on it; it wasn't "finished" yet, so I didn't make complaints. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:39, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::::::You only ''implemented'' it today. That's why I never commented on it; it wasn't "finished" yet, so I didn't make complaints. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:39, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
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:::::::::Shane....I ''just'' said "You weren't finished, so I didn't comment yet"--->the link you provided doesn't change that. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> | :::::::::Shane....I ''just'' said "You weren't finished, so I didn't comment yet"--->the link you provided doesn't change that. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> | ||
:::The ship doesn't have a race itself; it's associated to a race. (Of course, under best usage, "race" isn't quite correct for different species or entities with inorganic components.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :::The ship doesn't have a race itself; it's associated to a race. (Of course, under best usage, "race" isn't quite correct for different species or entities with inorganic components.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||
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:I concur and will make such an edit. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 14:16, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | :I concur and will make such an edit. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 14:16, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | ||