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| Good idea, very useful. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 05:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | Good idea, very useful. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 05:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :Found a good place to use it. That template or table that was used for the Heavy Radier was.. well.. ugly. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:41, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :Found a good place to use it. That template or table that was used for the Heavy Radier was.. well.. ugly. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:41, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
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| ==Terminology==
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| :I changed "function" to "role", and "side" to "race" (Pegasus and Galactica weren't exactly on the same "side", once upon a time). I made direct substitutions in the template, but now the boxes are showing up wrong. Why?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:57, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :I changed "function" to "role", and "side" to "race" (Pegasus and Galactica weren't exactly on the same "side", once upon a time). I made direct substitutions in the template, but now the boxes are showing up wrong. Why?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:57, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| ::Nevermind, I figured it out.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:58, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | ::Nevermind, I figured it out.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:58, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :::I don't really like "Race" here. Any other ideas? Nationality, maybe? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 14:18, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :::I don't really like "Race" here. Any other ideas? Nationality, maybe? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:18, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| ::::Well it's better than "side". I used it as a placeholder. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:30, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | ::::Well it's better than "side". I used it as a placeholder. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:30, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :::::Okay, so any other ideas? I think "nationality" is easily more appropriate than "race", even if it's still not great. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:25, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :::::Okay, so any other ideas? I think "nationality" is easily more appropriate than "race", even if it's still not great. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:25, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| ::::I kept eyeing it when I was changing the other wordings; I couldn't do better. Rejected '''candidates''': side, allegiance, species, used by, designed by --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::: Idea: '''Operator''' --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:52, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::: Dislike. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:53, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::: Well, the autonomous raiders cause a problem: technically, they aren't so much operated as... well, not.--[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 16:04, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::I think that "Used by" is the least bad of those, FWIW. Maybe "Utilized by"? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:53, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::Another idea with '''Utilized''' (for "type" instead of "Type".... '''Built'''. My mind is going blank. :-P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:00, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::I could live with "Utilized by," but I would note that non-Cylons have at least twice utilized Cylon vehicles and the Cylons could be interpreted to have utilized the Olympic Carrier. On those grounds, I'd prefer "Built by." --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 16:04, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| :: How can an inanmite object have a race? When we say F/A-18 we say side, U.S. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:27, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :: How can an inanmite object have a race? When we say F/A-18 we say side, U.S. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:27, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :::Shane...did you research this? I check and no ship, airplane like the F/A-18, or anything on wikipedia or MemoryAlpha supports that "we" say "side". It's the "race" that it belongs to. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:32, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :::Shane...did you research this? I check and no ship, airplane like the F/A-18, or anything on wikipedia or MemoryAlpha supports that "we" say "side". It's the "race" that it belongs to. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:32, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| ::::I do not use MA as a "research" tool unless I am looking something up on Star Trek. Wikipedia is my main source for online Enyclypiedia. Plus my photographic memeory servers me pretty well. The reason "race" appears on MA is because in Star Trek there are more than one race... Humans, Vulcuns, etc. Here was have humans and machines. Last time I checked out discussions on this wiki we refer to the Cylons as innamite objects and I have yet to see an Alien on BSG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | ::::I do not use MA as a "research" tool unless I am looking something up on Star Trek. Wikipedia is my main source for online Enyclypiedia. Plus my photographic memeory servers me pretty well. The reason "race" appears on MA is because in Star Trek there are more than one race... Humans, Vulcuns, etc. Here was have humans and machines. Last time I checked out discussions on this wiki we refer to the Cylons as innamite objects and I have yet to see an Alien on BSG. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:36, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :::::MA is a research tool on the design of a good fan wiki; it behooves one to learn from others' experience. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
| | :::"Side" just sounds clunky to me. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:29, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :::"Side" just sounds clunky to me. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:29, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | |
| ::::I could hjave used another word, but when doing design, you want it to be very simple. That's why I choose Side in the first place. Simple. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:31, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | ::::I could hjave used another word, but when doing design, you want it to be very simple. That's why I choose Side in the first place. Simple. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:31, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :::::I appreciate that. I hope you also appreciate our attempts to refine the terminology. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:34, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :::::I appreciate that. I hope you also appreciate our attempts to refine the terminology. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:34, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| ::::::No problem in this department. I had the template created for such a long time and no one ever commented on it, I thought it was OK. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:37, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | ::::::No problem in this department. I had the template created for such a long time and no one ever commented on it, I thought it was OK. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:37, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
| :::::::You only ''implemented'' it today. That's why I never commented on it; it wasn't "finished" yet, so I didn't make complaints. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:39, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::::[[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions#Template_Font_Size_and_Design]] --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:43, 8 April 2006 (CDT)'
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| :::::::::Shane....I ''just'' said "You weren't finished, so I didn't comment yet"--->the link you provided doesn't change that. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup>
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| :::The ship doesn't have a race itself; it's associated to a race. (Of course, under best usage, "race" isn't quite correct for different species or entities with inorganic components.) --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 15:49, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::I'm not married to it: I thought "Race" was vague enough and better than "side", but someone else could come up with a better idea. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 16:26, 8 April 2006 (CDT)
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| ===Consensus===
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| Any objections to switching to "utilized by" until we can think of something better? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 19:39, 10 April 2006 (CDT)
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| :"Affiliation"? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 21:05, 14 April 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Well my point was, when Pegasus and Galactica turned on each other, "Side" and "affiliation" started to become blurred, and if there is a future Cylon civil war, this might become even more problematic. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 21:13, 14 April 2006 (CDT)
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| :I concur and will make such an edit. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 14:16, 8 April 2006 (CDT) | | :I concur and will make such an edit. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 14:16, 8 April 2006 (CDT) |
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| == Length, Width, Hieght, etc. ==
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| I seen alot of the ship pages with this data. Anyone else think we should just add it to the template? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:04, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :Yes I agree --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 05:57, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :I concur. They look bad in the page proper. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 11:24, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Well it's mostly info from Scifi.com, but yeah. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 12:04, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Just a friendly reminder from the citation fairy to note sources on dimensions at the bottom of the article. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:36, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| ::So I guess I will jup in and make some changes to the template. Don't be alarmed. We going to have to goto each page and add the extra "info" tabs so the template isn't messy. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:17, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Nevermind. Solved that problem. Check out [[Colonial One]] for a update with the new template. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:37, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Class just came up because I saw it on the [[Colonial One]] page, but I added it jsut to see how it might look, maybe. The wingspan is used in the Viper pages, that's why I had it there, and a good reason to keep it width usually means the "frame". Wingspan means from wing to wing, if there are wings, which both the [[Viper (RDM)]]/[[Cylon Raider]] do. Not many though. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:07, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :forgot this one... feet or meters? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:11, 19 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :How about both, like X feet X inches (X.XX m)--[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:47, 19 May 2006 (CDT)
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| The current definitions of width and height are too fighter- and battlestar-centric. It would be more logical for length, width and height to be just that — simply the overall dimensions with everything included (and thus valid and easy to determine for every object). If certain objects have widths without wings/pods/with pods retracted etc., those can be noted among the other dimensions. After all, that's the field intended for customization. -- [[User:Graf Iblis|Graf Iblis]] 22:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Images==
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| I'd like to simply not have the image at top if none is available, rather than using the large question mark over the starfield. As for additional images, rather than link them through the template, why not use the gallery extension like on Cloud 9? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:44, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :Would have to see how that works inside a template. The problem is an "array" seems it have problems, but I can look into it. On the questionmark issue, we do it with otherthings. I don't see it as a major problem. Really minor. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:15, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| ::tried the gallery tag. Because the gallery needs to be on it's own line it formats wrong. I would need the gallery.php file so I can work on it myself, so I could fit it up. Joe, do you know where you got it or can you send it to my email? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:27, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| ::We don't need the gallery to be inside the template. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:52, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :::I forgot about the gallery section thing that we have. Ill see what I can do. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 02:46, 19 May 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Could do a "link".... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:52, 19 May 2006 (CDT)
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| == Added ''Propolusion'' and ''Capacity'' ==
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| Just leting everyone know. This will take a few more things off ship pages. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:20, 9 June 2006 (CDT)
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| :Just to add, it's spelled 'Propulsion' :) --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 14:01, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
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| == Trying some new formatting ==
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| Added a few new entries, and some new formatting in an attempt to keep ship's infoboxes organized and free of clutter. I also added a new entry for ship's patches/emblems, as I thought it might be a nice addition to have. [[user:frylock86|Frylock86]] 12:04 PM EST, 9/7/2013
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