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Hey, I created the MA real world template after I got the idea from Wookieepedia's "era icons" like the ones in [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker this article]. I once tried to make an icon system at MA where real, featured, shortcut, policy, and whatever else, would all be integrated in a system and then articles would have a template call like <nowiki>{{icons|featured|real}}</nowiki>. The idea was never accepted. The biggest problem was with long titles.

Anyway, maybe you could also add an RDM or TOS icon to it. The other thing is that it doesnt work in BsgMonoBook skin, but at least there is a toolbar now! Thanks to whoever got that working. --[[User:Bp|Bp]] 23:12, 15 January 2007 (CST)
:Toolbar was simple to fix. We document the difference between "Real Life" stuff between RDM and TOS that I don't think we are going to include the icons.... so far. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:17, 15 January 2007 (CST)
::The entire idea is a bit "up in the air" right now. Me and Shane are trying lots of things out. there is no official policy on how it would be used just yet. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:22, 16 January 2007 (CST)
::Shane, this code looks really useful. See: [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Eras Template:Eras]. I think I like those icons better than the text box... --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:24, 16 January 2007 (CST)
:::Not really a fan of the "icon" base. Gives no purpose. With the "text" it's easier to show. I am not saying that it's good, but those icons are to show the "universe" that the item belongs to, not real world which this template says "I am from the real world, not BSG". [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 03:41, 16 January 2007 (CST)
== Broken? ==
I see that Shane made some changes to this template on September 24th, but is it supposed to look like this? It looks kinds of broken to me, and just not good on the pages where it's used. Or is the work just not done? --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:40, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
:Not done. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:41, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
::Still seems broke to me (Firefox, Monobook skin) [[User:OTW|OTW]] 18:19, 4 December 2007 (CST)
::Works now! [[User:OTW|OTW]] 19:18, 4 December 2007 (CST)
:::Looks broken again now, bsgbook on Firefox 2.0.0.11. On [[Humanoid Cylon speculation]], the template is displayed on the bottom of the page (probably not intended) and partly overlaps with the categories box. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:48, 7 January 2008 (CST)

== Refresh your browsers ==

I've changed the CSS pertaining to this template yesterday. Some of you may still be having issues because your browser has cached the old CSS style sheet, so please do a hard refresh if you run into any problems. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 11:08, 5 December 2007 (CST)

==Deletion Vote==

I am nominating this template for deletion in accordance with my comments on [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Real point of view]], along with those of Joe, Spencerian and Serenity. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:38, 8 December 2007 (CST)

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# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{vd}} Get rid of it. It's stating the obvious, in my view. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 21:42, 8 December 2007 (CST)
# [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
# [[User:Catrope|Catrope]] - {{vd}} Our readers are not stupid and will probably recognize a real POV article. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:05, 9 December 2007 (CST)
# [[User:Day|Day]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
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# [[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] - {{vd}} --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:38, 8 December 2007 (CST)
# [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] - {{vd}} I suggested something like this because there was some concerns about POV. But I don't really see what the confusion is about. We'll still try to not mix voices, but when an non-"behind the scenes" article is written from a real-world POV it's blatantly obvious. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:33, 9 December 2007 (CST)
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# [[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] - {{vd}} Our users are pretty sharp. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:26, 9 December 2007 (CST)
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# [[User:OTW|OTW]] - {{vd}} [[User:OTW|OTW]] 16:19, 9 December 2007 (CST)
:*{{comment}} The other vote is about the RPOV policy. The policy itself is sound. We still shouldn't freely mix in- and out-of-universe references with an article, but use separate sections and footnotes instead. It's just the template that is rather pointless. We have always enforced the policy, so the voting is just a formal thing. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:22, 9 December 2007 (CST)

== [[Special:Nuke]]? ==
There are no fewer than 90 old revisions now in the undelete pool. Even if we decide we want this template back later, we won't need all of them :D Perhaps all revisions save for the last two (the last one is empty) could be nuked? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:14, 7 January 2008 (CST)