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==Silly Pages==
==Silly Pages==
If these are real, then this page doesn't actually belong in the Silly Pages category. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:48, 29 January 2006 (EST)
If these are real, then this page doesn't actually belong in the Silly Pages category. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:48, 29 January 2006 (EST)


:Well....then what category would apply?--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 17:52, 29 January 2006 (EST)
:Well....then what category would apply?--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 17:52, 29 January 2006 (EST)
::I'm not sure if we have one for fandom topics. Do we have other pages that would be included in such a category? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:54, 29 January 2006 (EST)
::I'm not sure if we have one for fandom topics. Do we have other pages that would be included in such a category? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:54, 29 January 2006 (EST)


== A concern ==
== A concern ==
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No.  Ron Moore & Co. ''know'' about this thing and we're starting up the Second Awards; we just started this week, and our placeholder [http://goldentoasterawards.hangardeck5.com/ website for the 2nd awards is up here]. More news to follow.  Please leave it as it is for now.  Plus, quite possibly the entire online community is involved and it really ''is'' an "awards show", just one held online.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:28, 24 March 2006 (CST)
No.  Ron Moore & Co. ''know'' about this thing and we're starting up the Second Awards; we just started this week, and our placeholder [http://goldentoasterawards.hangardeck5.com/ website for the 2nd awards is up here]. More news to follow.  Please leave it as it is for now.  Plus, quite possibly the entire online community is involved and it really ''is'' an "awards show", just one held online.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:28, 24 March 2006 (CST)


:I don't mind having fandom topics discussed here, as long as there's no ambiguity between what's canonical and what's fan-related - and this article is pretty clear. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 16:30, 24 March 2006 (CST)
:I don't mind having fandom topics discussed here, as long as there's no ambiguity between what's canonical and what's fan-related - and this article is pretty clear. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:30, 24 March 2006 (CST)
::Even if they know it, it doesn't mean everyone excepted it. I think it should not be in the article database. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:26, 24 March 2006 (CST)
::Even if they know it, it doesn't mean everyone excepted it. I think it should not be in the article database. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:26, 24 March 2006 (CST)
::: Perhaps some kind of template for the header, much like the current neutrality one, but specifically for fan related articles. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 11:06, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
::: Perhaps some kind of template for the header, much like the current neutrality one, but specifically for fan related articles. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 11:06, 7 April 2006 (CDT)
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:::Looks like theres already an [[Awards and Honors|awards page]], i think a small passage could be mentioned about the golden toaster awards there with a link to the site rather than showing all the results here. Its certainly not a recognised awards "ceremony". --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:21, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
:::Looks like theres already an [[Awards and Honors|awards page]], i think a small passage could be mentioned about the golden toaster awards there with a link to the site rather than showing all the results here. Its certainly not a recognised awards "ceremony". --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:21, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I think that at the topic is sufficiently notable in fandom to make sure that a listing of the winners is maintained. Currently, I think this may be the only place a list is kept. As soon as the "official" site is up, it'd probably be best if we turned the updating and maintenance of winners over to them (for risk of redundancy) and mostly just link to results, etc. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:49, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
::::I think that at the topic is sufficiently notable in fandom to make sure that a listing of the winners is maintained. Currently, I think this may be the only place a list is kept. As soon as the "official" site is up, it'd probably be best if we turned the updating and maintenance of winners over to them (for risk of redundancy) and mostly just link to results, etc. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:49, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::Agree. I don't see a significant conflict of interest here. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 09:42, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::Agree. I don't see a significant conflict of interest here. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 09:42, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
::::::When GalacticaActual was destroyed months after the first awards, the GTA leaders had to scramble through old computer files to try to find a complete list of old winners.  When I established one here, they were very thankful. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 11:41, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
::::::When GalacticaActual was destroyed months after the first awards, the GTA leaders had to scramble through old computer files to try to find a complete list of old winners.  When I established one here, they were very thankful. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 11:41, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::::I hope you dont mind me playing with it a little. I bolded some parts, unbolded others and changed the awards to sub headers so they show in a table of contents? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 11:49, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
:::::::I hope you dont mind me playing with it a little. I bolded some parts, unbolded others and changed the awards to sub headers so they show in a table of contents? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 11:49, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
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I've reorganized the article and cleaned it up a bit. I believe it reads more clearer now, and I've removed the NPOV offending exclaimations and other oddities I found in the article. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:35, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
I've reorganized the article and cleaned it up a bit. I believe it reads more clearer now, and I've removed the NPOV offending exclaimations and other oddities I found in the article. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:35, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
:Very good, though I think the individual awards should just have their titles bolded instead of being subcategories, because they won't be edited around that much but right now the little "edit" tabs appear next to every one. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 16:10, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
:Very good, though I think the individual awards should just have their titles bolded instead of being subcategories, because they won't be edited around that much but right now the little "edit" tabs appear next to every one. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 16:10, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
== Cleanup Part 2 ==
Changing into a table format like our lists. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 08:39, 18 February 2007 (CST)
:Ok... to many awards. I suggest we just remove them. Right now it's just "fluf". [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:00, 18 February 2007 (CST)
::Ok, I've broken the award results into separate pages for each award event. This makes the main article a bit more concise. I've also done some other minor cleanup. I'm looking for ideas, thoughts, etc. on how to improve this article. Thanks. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 12:36, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
:::Looks good. No idea what more could be done. Seems fine as it is. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:07, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

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