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"Judging by the total instant destruction of the Cylon Basestar in Kobol's Last Gleaming, they would appear to have a yield in the megaton range." <--That's a misinterpretation of the explosion. First of all, what this "instant destruction"? A nuke explodes at essentially the speed of light, of course you'd be looking at instant destruction of the Basestar. And when you're blowing up something like a Basestar from the *inside*, you don't need nukes in the MT range. Considering the size of a Basestar (really not that big, especially compared to cities), its own onboard combustables and reactors and the incomplete vapourization of significant portion of the vessel, even a 20KT bomb would be more than enough do the damage observed. A MT-range bomb would've left *nothing* of the vessel, even a high KT-range bomb would've had you looking for the Basestar wreckage with a magnifying glass. Remember, a nuke exploding inside a target massively multiply the effectiveness of the nuke. I recommend editing out the estimated yield, period, and save the educated guess for when we've been sufficiently educated by additional onscreen material. --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 15:15, 28 March 2006 (CST) | "Judging by the total instant destruction of the Cylon Basestar in Kobol's Last Gleaming, they would appear to have a yield in the megaton range." <--That's a misinterpretation of the explosion. First of all, what this "instant destruction"? A nuke explodes at essentially the speed of light, of course you'd be looking at instant destruction of the Basestar. And when you're blowing up something like a Basestar from the *inside*, you don't need nukes in the MT range. Considering the size of a Basestar (really not that big, especially compared to cities), its own onboard combustables and reactors and the incomplete vapourization of significant portion of the vessel, even a 20KT bomb would be more than enough do the damage observed. A MT-range bomb would've left *nothing* of the vessel, even a high KT-range bomb would've had you looking for the Basestar wreckage with a magnifying glass. Remember, a nuke exploding inside a target massively multiply the effectiveness of the nuke. I recommend editing out the estimated yield, period, and save the educated guess for when we've been sufficiently educated by additional onscreen material. --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 15:15, 28 March 2006 (CST) | ||
==Gina's nuke was not a Class D warhead== | ==Gina's nuke was not a Class D warhead== | ||
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I think we've overlooked this: when Tigh is going through a manifest of what is ''supposed'' to be at Ragnar Anchorage, he says there ''should'' be 40 Class D nuclear warheads there. --->In "Bastille Day", Adama says that "Galactica has 5 nukes left". For ''already'' had a few of these, which would be removed when the crew left (they couldn't just be safely detonated like normal ordinance). ***My point is, we don't know that those "5 nukes", one of which was given to Baltar who gave it to Gina, was actually a "class D warhead"; we don't even know if they actually found any of them.--->we go on at length talking about how it could or could not be a suitcase bomb, because the nukes that Galactica-Boomer and Gina used were that size; but we don't know that that is actually a Class-D warhead. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:12, 29 March 2006 (CST) | I think we've overlooked this: when Tigh is going through a manifest of what is ''supposed'' to be at Ragnar Anchorage, he says there ''should'' be 40 Class D nuclear warheads there. --->In "Bastille Day", Adama says that "Galactica has 5 nukes left". For ''already'' had a few of these, which would be removed when the crew left (they couldn't just be safely detonated like normal ordinance). ***My point is, we don't know that those "5 nukes", one of which was given to Baltar who gave it to Gina, was actually a "class D warhead"; we don't even know if they actually found any of them.--->we go on at length talking about how it could or could not be a suitcase bomb, because the nukes that Galactica-Boomer and Gina used were that size; but we don't know that that is actually a Class-D warhead. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:12, 29 March 2006 (CST) | ||
:Silly question, but does the miniseries use the phrase "Class D nuclear warheads" or just "Class D warheads"? There's a huge difference between the two, not all warheads are nukes. I also find it rather unlikely that the Colonial government/military would just leave that many nukes lying around an unguarded, half-abondoned, middle-of-nowhere depot, and none of the Galactica members seem to have freaked out at the idea that there was a thief onboard a station supposedly full of nukes (or wonder how he got there, suggesting that Ragnar wasn't exactly hard to get to). --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 21:07, 29 March 2006 (CST) | :Silly question, but does the miniseries use the phrase "Class D nuclear warheads" or just "Class D warheads"? There's a huge difference between the two, not all warheads are nukes. I also find it rather unlikely that the Colonial government/military would just leave that many nukes lying around an unguarded, half-abondoned, middle-of-nowhere depot, and none of the Galactica members seem to have freaked out at the idea that there was a thief onboard a station supposedly full of nukes (or wonder how he got there, suggesting that Ragnar wasn't exactly hard to get to). --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 21:07, 29 March 2006 (CST) | ||
::I think they just say "Class-D warhead". I assumed they weren't nuclear due to the comments in "Bastille Day". --[[User: | ::I think they just say "Class-D warhead". I assumed they weren't nuclear due to the comments in "Bastille Day". --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:14, 29 March 2006 (CST) | ||
:You make a fine point. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 14:46, 30 March 2006 (CST) | :You make a fine point. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 14:46, 30 March 2006 (CST) | ||