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<blockquote>In the official Syfy.com podcast for "[[The Dirteaters]]", Universal Cable Productions executive '''[[Tom Lieber]]''' is joined by actors '''[[Sasha Roiz]]''' ([[Sam Adama]]), '''[[Esai Morales]]''' ([[Joseph Adama]]), and '''[[Magda Apanowicz]]''' ([[Lacy Rand]]) to discuss the fifteenth episode of ''[[Caprica]]''. They delve into the deep backstory of the [[Adama family]], exploring the origins of the [[Ha'la'tha]] on [[Tauron]] and the childhood trauma that shaped the Adama brothers. The commentators share behind-the-scenes anecdotes about filming key sequences, including the emotional flashbacks and the intricate virtual reality scenes in [[New Cap City]]. The discussion also covers character motivations, the symbolism behind the Adama family traditions, and the collaborative process of developing the complex relationships within the show.</blockquote>
<blockquote>In the official Syfy.com podcast for "[[The Dirteaters]]", Universal Cable Productions executive '''[[Tom Lieber]]''' is joined by actors '''[[Sasha Roiz]]''' ([[Sam Adama]]), '''[[Esai Morales]]''' ([[Joseph Adama]]), and '''[[Magda Apanowicz]]''' ([[Lacy Rand]]) to discuss the fifteenth episode of ''[[Caprica]]''. They delve into the deep backstory of the [[Adama family]], exploring the origins of the [[Ha'la'tha]] on [[Tauron]] and the childhood trauma that shaped the Adama brothers. The commentators share behind-the-scenes anecdotes about filming key sequences, including the emotional flashbacks and the intricate virtual reality scenes in [[New Cap City]]. The discussion also covers character motivations, the symbolism behind the Adama family traditions, and the collaborative process of developing the complex relationships within the show.</blockquote>
{{Podcast
| Episode      = The Dirteaters
| Commentators = [[Tom Lieber]], [[Sasha Roiz]], [[Esai Morales]], [[Magda Apanowicz]]
}}


'''[[Tom Lieber|Tom Lieber]]''': Okay, hello and welcome to the podcast for ''[[Caprica (TV series)|Caprica]]'' episode 115, which is called "[[The Dirteaters]]", although unofficially we call it Adamarama around the office.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 00:00</ref>
'''[[Tom Lieber|Tom Lieber]]''': Okay, hello and welcome to the podcast for ''[[Caprica (TV series)|Caprica]]'' episode 115, which is called "[[The Dirteaters]]", although unofficially we call it Adamarama around the office.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 00:00</ref>
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'''Sasha Roiz''': yeah there's also [[Richard Hudolin]] and all the other all those people.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:36</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': yeah there's also [[Richard Hudolin]] and all the other all those people.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:36</ref>


'''Esai Morales''': and Joao.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:42</ref>
'''Esai Morales''': and [[Joao Fernandes|Joao]].<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:42</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': Wow props props to props.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:42</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Wow props props to props.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:42</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': look at those props well And don't forget [[Rebecca Lee|Rebecca]], who did all your tattoos.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:44</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': look at those props well And don't forget Rebecca, who did all your tattoos.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:44</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': Absolutely. Two and a half hours almost every other day.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:49</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Absolutely. Two and a half hours almost every other day.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 02:49</ref>
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'''Sasha Roiz''': Oh, that's right. Yeah.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 04:08</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Oh, that's right. Yeah.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 04:08</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': And here we are back on Tauron, you know, 30 years ago. This is [[Aleks Paunovic]], who plays William Adama, the original.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 04:09</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': And here we are back on Toron, you know, 30 years ago. This is [[Aleks Paunovic]], who plays William Adama, the original.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 04:09</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': Yeah. First William Adama.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 04:18</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Yeah. First William Adama.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 04:18</ref>
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'''Sasha Roiz''': We see a little bit of the exterior when the kids go out into the street to steal the gun.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:05</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': We see a little bit of the exterior when the kids go out into the street to steal the gun.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:05</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': Because I'm looking forward to hopefully in the season 2 that we'll get to see some of Tauron proper.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:10</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Because I'm looking forward to hopefully in the season 2 that we'll get to see some of Toron proper.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:10</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': Yeah. I mean, we saw... The only time we ever really saw Tauron proper...<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:15</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Yeah. I mean, we saw... The only time we ever really saw Toron proper...<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:15</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': Oh, my gosh. Unwrap that fast. Unwrap that fast. Just get it over with. We'll rip the bandit off. So annoying.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:19</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Oh, my gosh. Unwrap that fast. Unwrap that fast. Just get it over with. We'll rip the bandit off. So annoying.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:19</ref>
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'''Sasha Roiz''': That's the end of the act. It's so annoying to lose.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:25</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': That's the end of the act. It's so annoying to lose.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:25</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': The only time we actually saw Tauron proper on Battlestar was in a flashback of Razor.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:27</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': The only time we actually saw Toron proper on Battlestar was in a flashback of Razor.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:27</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': No, in Battlestar. And in Virgis as well, there was a moment of Tauron City.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:36</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': No, in Battlestar. And in Virgis as well, there was a moment of Toron City.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:36</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': Yeah, sure, right. But on Battlestar, Admiral Cain was from Tauron. But that's sort of agrarian society, that sort of rough land that they talk about. It'd be interesting to see that.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:39</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Yeah, sure, right. But on Battlestar, Admiral Cain was from Toron. But that's sort of agrarian society, that sort of rough land that they talk about. It'd be interesting to see that.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:39</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': Totally.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:48</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Totally.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:48</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': And I think you said in the pilot that there are no flowers on Tauron.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:48</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': And I think you said in the pilot that there are no flowers on Toron.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:48</ref>


'''Esai Morales''': Right. It's all... It's all just... It's all preemptive. There's nothing... There's no room for beauty there.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:53</ref>
'''Esai Morales''': Right. It's all... It's all just... It's all preemptive. There's nothing... There's no room for beauty there.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 07:53</ref>
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'''Tom Lieber''': Shout out.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 12:23</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Shout out.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 12:23</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': I love this. I love Surge, kind of going through the history of Tauron and the Ha'la'tha.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 12:25</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': I love this. I love Surge, kind of going through the history of Turan and the Halafah.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 12:25</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': It's like vocal internet.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 12:33</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': It's like vocal internet.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 12:33</ref>
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'''Tom Lieber''': Oh, my gosh, no. Is he supposed to be like Al Capone?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 13:00</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Oh, my gosh, no. Is he supposed to be like Al Capone?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 13:00</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': Yeah, I think, you know, Joseph's doing, I mean, Daniel's doing his research on the Ha'la'tha. Wow.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 13:06</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Yeah, I think, you know, Joseph's doing, I mean, Daniel's doing his research on the Halifah. Wow.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 13:06</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': There's Matthew Roberts, our writer.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 13:16</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': There's Matthew Roberts, our writer.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 13:16</ref>
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'''Tom Lieber''': What do you need from him?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 17:46</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': What do you need from him?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 17:46</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': If I remember correctly, I just need access to those Cylons because my main objective is to help people back on Tauron. So he's pushing, of course, emotional buttons.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 17:47</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': If I remember correctly, I just need access to those Cylons because my main objective is to help people back on Toron. So he's pushing, of course, emotional buttons.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 17:47</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': Ooh, did he just say Tauron?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 17:59</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Ooh, did he just say Toron?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 17:59</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': And ironically, Eric had to say the biggest speech in Tauron from all of us. I don't think anyone has had to say that much in one mouthful. It was really impressive. He did it well.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:01</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': And ironically, Eric had to say the biggest speech in Toron from all of us. I don't think anyone has had to say that much in one mouthful. It was really impressive. He did it well.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:01</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': He did it very well.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:14</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': He did it very well.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:14</ref>
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'''Sasha Roiz''': I love the way they like the scene, by the way. I love the way McNutt lit the scene. It's always so dark and just drowning in shadows and reds.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:16</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': I love the way they like the scene, by the way. I love the way McNutt lit the scene. It's always so dark and just drowning in shadows and reds.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:16</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': Well, it's very... The Tauron world is so rich.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:23</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Well, it's very... The Turan world is so rich.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:23</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': It's the earthy look. Very Godfather-y.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:27</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': It's the earthy look. Very Godfather-y.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:27</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': Very. And then Bear puts the Tauron-sounding instruments in, and it's a really rich tapestry.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:29</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Very. And then Bear puts the Turan-sounding instruments in, and it's a really rich tapestry.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:29</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': This was a lot of fun for me, because Eric and I hadn't had a chance to work really prior to that. So it was really...<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:36</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': This was a lot of fun for me, because Eric and I hadn't had a chance to work really prior to that. So it was really...<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 18:36</ref>
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'''Tom Lieber''': Yeah, he does.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 19:16</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Yeah, he does.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 19:16</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': I never noticed this before, but there are Tauron tattoo symbols on the wall.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 19:18</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': I never noticed this before, but there are Toron tattoo symbols on the wall.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 19:18</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': Oh, yeah, yeah. He makes mention of them as he walks in.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 19:25</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': Oh, yeah, yeah. He makes mention of them as he walks in.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 19:25</ref>
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'''Sasha Roiz''': That's a nice cigarette. Is there like gold trimming around that?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 21:54</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': That's a nice cigarette. Is there like gold trimming around that?<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 21:54</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': I have no idea. But those cigarettes are never really cigarettes, right? They're like some weird clove things.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 21:57</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': I have no idea. But those cigarettes are never really cigarettes, right? They're like some weird cloth things.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 21:57</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': They're some herbal cigarettes, which make me so nauseous I can't tell you.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:03</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': They're some herbal cigarettes, which make me so nauseous I can't tell you.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:03</ref>
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'''Tom Lieber''': You're not supposed to inhale them.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:06</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': You're not supposed to inhale them.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:06</ref>


'''Sasha Roiz''': Oh, no. Cloves. You're not supposed to [inhale] cloves.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:07</ref>
'''Sasha Roiz''': Oh, no. Clothes. You're not supposed to clothes.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:07</ref>


'''Tom Lieber''': well you're supposed to inhale these particular cigarettes but it's uh it's nauseating and even the crew couldn't stand it because especially at goldie's the place would be full all the extras would be smoking uh the same cigarettes and the place would just reek and uh i never knew lettuce could be so bad i know i would sooner smoke the real thing yeah there was a scene we had to smoke weed but it's because of laws because of legalities yeah and it was like the most nauseating thing purple it was supposed to be purple no i don't think it's all right so oh so here we go they're about to get invaded here no what do you get listening into us now what are they going are they watching the show real time or something this girl is so scary she's so scary I remember watching this once with you this is she's so scary and you think nothing of it at first because she's such a little thing compared to Alex but she's so sinister yeah I mean it's really supposed to be any kind of repressed group and not yeah but it's it's I think it's just you know any sort of fascist society or you know they come start clamping down on minorities and she's the young kind of hotter version of the inglorious bastards yeah yeah but yeah there's definitely a Nazi element yeah well and then the outfits become very fascist.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:10</ref>
'''Tom Lieber''': well you're supposed to inhale these particular cigarettes but it's uh it's nauseating and even the crew couldn't stand it because especially at goldie's the place would be full all the extras would be smoking uh the same cigarettes and the place would just reek and uh i never knew lettuce could be so bad i know i would sooner smoke the real thing yeah there was a scene we had to smoke weed but it's because of laws because of legalities yeah and it was like the most nauseating thing purple it was supposed to be purple no i don't think it's all right so oh so here we go they're about to get invaded here no what do you get listening into us now what are they going are they watching the show real time or something this girl is so scary she's so scary I remember watching this once with you this is she's so scary and you think nothing of it at first because she's such a little thing compared to Alex but she's so sinister yeah I mean it's really supposed to be any kind of repressed group and not yeah but it's it's I think it's just you know any sort of fascist society or you know they come start clamping down on minorities and she's the young kind of hotter version of the inglorious bastards yeah yeah but yeah there's definitely a Nazi element yeah well and then the outfits become very fascist.<ref>[[Podcast:The Dirteaters|Podcast for "The Dirteaters"]], timestamp 22:10</ref>

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