Talk:Precipice/Archive 1

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Production Number

What's up with "Episode 1.5"? Shouldn't this count as episode 2 of the season, even if it's being aired as a 2-hour premiere? --Peter Farago 03:53, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

Thats what ive always said, but for some reason all the episode numbering is messed up. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 04:35, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

The writers officially count "Occupation / Precipice" as one episode. Bradley Thompson said that there will probably be only one intro. So "Precipice" still belongs to episode 1 (hence 1.5) and Season 3 only has 19 episodes on paper --Serenity 05:21, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

However, in terms of budgeting and production, "Occupation/Precipice" was 3.01 and 3.02, while "Exodus, Part I" and "Exodus, Part II" were both 3.03. Clearly our numbering system shouldn't reflect the vagaries of production, or else both parts of "Resurrection Ship" would be episodes 2.11 and Season 2 would only have 19 episodes.

At the same time, we should ask - were "Occupation" and "Precipice" truly edited into a single episode, or is SciFi simply airing two episodes back to back on premiere night? In the event of the former, there should be a single entry for both "Occupation" and "Precipice". In the latter, they should retain separate entries, and each should have their own episode number (and none of this "1.5" business). --Peter Farago 05:34, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

FWIW, SciFi's schedule has the premiere listed as a single two-hour block under the title "The Occupation/Precipice". I'd lay good money on them splitting it into two episodes for syndication, though. --Peter Farago 05:37, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

Well, you could wait until the episodes have aired and edit it then. But I asked Mr. Thompson about just this, and he said "I have not seen the transition yet, but I believe it will be one episode. Which is why Episode 19 is the season 3 finale" in BW:OC. Good point about syndication though. Maybe the place where the break would be is cleary visible. --Serenity 05:43, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

Having given it considerable thoght, I think the best reason not to merge them into a single article is that I don't want to be citing (The Occupation/Precipice) as a single unit for the rest of time. --Peter Farago 06:15, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

One thing I think people aren't getting that that there ARE 20 episodes. "Occuprice" is episode 1, Exodus part 1 is episode 2, so on, totaling up to twenty. (I think) --BklynBruzer 13:13, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

Whoops, scratch my previous comment that was here, I was wrong. For what it's worth, my DirecTV guide has it as a single two hour airing. With a repeat right after. Methinks that'll be good if there's a podcast for em.--BklynBruzer 13:13, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

There are twenty hours, and (if Occupation/Precipice is counted as one episode) nineteen episodes. --Peter Farago 17:34, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

Suggestion

Here's a thought: Let's follow SciFi's lead with the podcasts. If they put up podcasts for two four-act shows, we'll keep it as two episodes; if they put up a single podcast for an eight-act show, we'll merge them into a single Occupation/Precipice article. --Peter Farago 17:38, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

Ya know, so far this is the best suggestion in this whole conversation because I somehow get the feeling that they at scifi are themselves not yet certain about what to call these 2 opening 5 act pieces,but by the time the show starts on Friday, I'm sure they will have it figured out so let's not do their job for them and try to guess what they will do. --Straycat0 16:08, 4 October 2006 (AST)

I suggest we wait till they air, and see if there's an end between the two. For what it's worth, my DirecTV onscreen guide is showing one two hour block with a repeat right after it. That'll be nice for the podcasts, watch the episode, then right after watch it with commentary. --BklynBruzer 20:21, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

Moore refers to the show as "Occupation/Precipice" in his latest blog entry. --Peter Farago 01:04, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

RDM often will lead off each podcast with (outside the I'm RDM, etc.) "and this is episode X of season Y, 'Z'". That may provide some insight as well if he continues that practice. --Steelviper 06:53, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

SciFi.com gives the two-hour premiere production numbers 301 and 302. --Peter Farago 01:36, 7 October 2006 (CDT)

Using the second content warning after the bombing as the start of Precipice. --FrankieG 06:43, 7 October 2006 (CDT)

RDM states this on the podcast too. Baltar/Roslin cell scene is the first of Precipice. --FrankieG 09:07, 7 October 2006 (CDT)

Pic

What's that gold thing on Helo's lapel/uniform? --BklynBruzer 12:52, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

Here is a better pic Image:Greys_Mini.JPG. I believe that it is a symbol for the twelve colonies. But Kat doesn't have it?? --FrankieG 13:11, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

It's a version of the Colonial seal with a smaller Phoenix in the center: http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=26&pos=81 --Serenity 13:17, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

If we don't have a pic here, we need it. :) --FrankieG 13:18, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

The best option is probably to make a high resolution screencap from DVD (if a suitable closeup is available). Episodes with dress grays: Miniseries, Act of Contrition, Home II --Serenity 13:25, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

In the episode itself, Kat's Grays does have the lapel pin. I was specifically looking for it in the scene, it must be a mistake in this picture. --Talos 10:12, 7 October 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, made sure I checked that too. --FrankieG 10:14, 7 October 2006 (CDT)

Casey

I'd like to start a page for Kara's daughter, but I'm not really sure how to spell her name. Casey? Kasey? If it is Casey, we'll need to disambiguate, as there's already a pilot named that. Alpha5099 13:47, 7 October 2006 (CDT)

I don't suppose anybody was watching with captions on? --Peter Farago 14:22, 7 October 2006 (CDT)

Original Series definition: marriage