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| : The issue with saving images as PNGs is that certain browsers *cough* IE *cough* have problems rendering PNGs properly. As for "fair use", the issue is that it isn't a carte blanche thing, which is why we don't have episode galleries (which are technically illegal) and we've been careful in what pictures we add. However, if you do have access to Zoic pictures, then by all means add them. We'll take those over most screenshots any day of the week... However, it's best to keep the Zoic logos intact on them, just to cover our asses, as it were. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 04:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC) | | : The issue with saving images as PNGs is that certain browsers *cough* IE *cough* have problems rendering PNGs properly. As for "fair use", the issue is that it isn't a carte blanche thing, which is why we don't have episode galleries (which are technically illegal) and we've been careful in what pictures we add. However, if you do have access to Zoic pictures, then by all means add them. We'll take those over most screenshots any day of the week... However, it's best to keep the Zoic logos intact on them, just to cover our asses, as it were. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 04:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC) |
| :: The image I uploaded of the Daru Mozu came up fine in IE7... I do know from past experiences that IE6 does have the problems you mentioned. I don't know how many people are still on IE6, I know I waited a little while before I updated just because when the new browser came out it didn't quite have full compatibility with some sites. Hopefully were talking about the same issue here... If there is something wrong on IE7 then do tell. As long as most current browsers support it, I think it still might be worth considering, completely up to everyone else though... I for sure understand the need to support all visitors to the site (no matter what browser they may be using). Also, should I keep the image as high-res as possible (original dimensions) so long as the resolution isn't too crazy? I for one really like to be able to zoom up and see detail on posted images. Back to the Photoshoping of images, for example there is a great image off of [http://www.leestringer.com/Images/Print/Galactica_Fleet_11x17_150dpi_v003.jpg Leestringer.com] that i'd like to replace as the main image for this [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/The_Fleet_(RDM)[article]]. But I'm not sure about including the text at the bottom of the image. Thanks again for the help. --[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 05:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC) | | :: The image I uploaded of the Daru Mozu came up fine in IE7... I do know from past experiences that IE6 does have the problems you mentioned. I don't know how many people are still on IE6, I know I waited a little while before I updated just because when the new browser came out it didn't quite have full compatibility with some sites. Hopefully were talking about the same issue here... If there is something wrong on IE7 then do tell. As long as most current browsers support it, I think it still might be worth considering, completely up to everyone else though... I for sure understand the need to support all visitors to the site (no matter what browser they may be using). Also, should I keep the image as high-res as possible (original dimensions) so long as the resolution isn't too crazy? I for one really like to be able to zoom up and see detail on posted images. Back to the Photoshoping of images, for example there is a great image off of [http://www.leestringer.com/Images/Print/Galactica_Fleet_11x17_150dpi_v003.jpg Leestringer.com] that i'd like to replace as the main image for this [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/The_Fleet_(RDM)[article]]. But I'm not sure about including the text at the bottom of the image. Thanks again for the help. --[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 05:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC) |
| :::There is a small image tutorial [[Battlestar Wiki:Tutorial (Images)|here]]. Basically it's <nowiki>[[File:blah.jpg|thumb|(left/right)|caption]]</nowiki>. High-res pictures are fine, but if they're like 5000*3000 it might be better to upload two versions. As for photoshops. That one is still ok, but I think that they should resemble the tv images as closely as possible, when used main image. A lot of those CGI renders look pretty artificial, detail notwithstanding. Alright as additional image, but not so as main image. Just in my opinion. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC) | | :::There is a small image tutorial [[Battlestar Wiki:Tutorial (Images)|here]]. Basically it's <nowiki>[[Image:blah.jpg|thumb|(left/right)|caption]]</nowiki>. High-res pictures are fine, but if they're like 5000*3000 it might be better to upload two versions. As for photoshops. That one is still ok, but I think that they should resemble the tv images as closely as possible, when used main image. A lot of those CGI renders look pretty artificial, detail notwithstanding. Alright as additional image, but not so as main image. Just in my opinion. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC) |
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| Hey Joe, I'm confused by the placement of a "deletion discussion" tag on [[Talk:Guess What's Coming to Dinner]]. If that's the next aired episode, why is it up for deletion, and new comments discouraged (in the tag)? Was that tag placed there by mistake, maybe? [[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 16:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC) | | Hey Joe, I'm confused by the placement of a "deletion discussion" tag on [[Talk:Guess What's Coming to Dinner]]. If that's the next aired episode, why is it up for deletion, and new comments discouraged (in the tag)? Was that tag placed there by mistake, maybe? [[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 16:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
| : The talk page was originally the talk page for "Into the West", until it was moved to "Talk:Guess What's..." However, the tag still remained, despite the fact that it should have been removed. Sorry for the confusion. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC) | | : The talk page was originally the talk page for "Into the West", until it was moved to "Talk:Guess What's..." However, the tag still remained, despite the fact that it should have been removed. Sorry for the confusion. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
| == Look @ Recent Changes with Show Bot On ==
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| I got [[User:TaskBot]] working again. On the media wiki, the tag bot is working. I didn't want to check all 3k images, but it checks the last 100 each 24 hours. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| : Sweet! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :: That's 100 uploaded :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| ::: We should really have the bot slugging through all 3k+ files to ensure they are properly tagged. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 14:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :::: It would for sure be a one time check because I have to set it to 3k previous uploads. Then put it back at the last 100 or so. I would remove the timer so it doesn't take forever. LOL! [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :::: System crashes when I try to check 2000+ with "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1433601 bytes) in /home/bsgwiki/w/includes/OutputPage.php on line 729". So... that's the problem. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::: Bah... humduck. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :::::"Nevermind. I found the offset area. So I can start "later in". Some of the images we have on the media wiki were imported from EN if you remember, so that upload RC is not there. So at least it will check all the recent stuff except like 611 files. We had uploaded excatly 3002 files since we made media wiki. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 15:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| == Uploading images as transparent .PNG's ==
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| Real quick, I never received an answer to my question regarding the transparent PNG's... I know your original answer was that Internet Explorer 6 has problems displaying them properly, a fact I also know to be true, but I have tested the graphic I uploaded for the [[Daru Mozu|Daru Mozu]] in several popular browsers: Internet Explorer 7, Mozilla Firefox, Safari, Opera and Camino. All of these browsers display the graphic just fine. I think the large majority of the BSG Wiki's target crowd would be on such browsers as well. Unfortunately, as of April 08 28.9% of internet users are still browsing via IE6 according to this [http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp source]. This is however a large reduction of IE6 users from early 06 where IE6 accounted for approx 60% of all internet browsing. Personally, I think it's safe to say that the users of this site are part of the 70% of internet users who have swapped IE6 for a better browser. Besides, people with IE6 can still view the image itself, just not the transparent background... Which is essentially the same look on the website right now anyways: the image with a solid background (in many cases at least). At worst, this transition would mean a considerable aesthetic increase for people using modern browsers and a slight decrease in aesthetics for people using older browsers (in most cases at least). However, I don't think anyone will be hurt by the .PNG's because everyone is using a modern browser. I won't make mention of this topic anymore if the same answer still stands, although I do think it deserves additional consideration given how sweet the [[Daru Mozu|Daru Mozu]] graphic looks!
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| Thanks! --[[User:Galjamspe|Galjamspe]] 02:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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| # Programs that save to the PNG format are notorious for loading up PNGs with worthless data that increases the file size, thus increasing bandwidth and site download times; this can be avoided using certain programs, or tweaking certain settings, but if you're of the "click, click, click" mentality then this goes completely out the window. (In particular when we get slammed during first run episodes.) It is simply easier for us to use JPGs for all of our images due to the file size and bandwidth issues.
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| : Regardless to say, because of those two reasons, I am wholly against full scale implementation of the PNG format on the wiki. I'll reevaluate this stance when these errors have been rectified, particularly on the IE 7 level. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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| == Battlestar Pegasus wiki ==
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| Hey Joe, you started [http://en.battlestarpegasus.com/wiki/Main_Page that project] too, didn't you? Surprised you don't have it linked on your user page. Also, think we can get SUL enabled there? --[[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 03:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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| : Yeah! Unfortunately, from what [[User:Shane|Shane]] and [[User:Catrope|Catrope]] tell me, SUL can only work on one domain; i.e. "battlestarwiki.org" logins won't work on "battlestarpegasus.com"... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 04:14, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :: We are still looking into it. So don't worry! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 06:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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| == [[Humanoid Cylon speculation]] rewrite ==
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| Dear Mr. Beaudoin:
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| I did not realise that you had begun (in your words) a massive fucking rewrite to the Humanoid Cylon speculation page when I added another paragraph to the Duala analysis, concerning her ethnicity. It is, of course, still there on the regular Humanoid Cylon speculation page, but not on your reboot in progress.
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| Good luck on the re-write. That page could certainly use it and, admitedly, I caused some of the mess.
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| : David, call me Joe. :) Anyway, I'm undergoing the re-write... obviously, I'm going to bring it up for discussion on the talk page, since I'm sure it's gonna get revised repeatedly. Basically, the page will assume that Three is telling the truth and that the Last Cylon isn't in the Fleet, and is therefore elsewhere. Which means it isn't Dualla, Cottle, an Adama, or really anyone in the Fleet. Also, Ron has basically re-confirmed just recently that none of the people in [[The Last Supper]] picture, so everyone in that is thrown out, including Baltar and Roslin. Anyway, [[Humanoid Cylon speculation/Reboot|read the page]], let me know what you think. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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| Well, that all makes sense. Don't forget to delete the bullet point about Sharon under the esoteric theories at the bottom, now that she has a whole section.
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| == re: Which Richard Thompson? ==
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| Hi Joe,
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| I don't think Richard is currently listed on the IMDb. However, he and I were sitting on the set the other day, and he was trying to remember the name his character had been given. He couldn't think of it, so I decided to do a search of the Marines on the wiki, and lo and behold, there he was.
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| Richard started playing a Marine in season 1, and has continued to do so right up through the finale, which we're filming right now. {{unsigned|Zeppo}}
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| : Very cool. Nice to know! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:34, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
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| == Help me Joe B Kenobi, you're my only hope :D ==
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| Firstly i'd like to congratulate you on a top notch job on Battlestar wiki. It never dissapoints and it looks super slick. stupidly enough, i've left it until very recently to actually register, as opposed to just visiting all the time. I'd like to thank you for taking time to read this also and I hope I have not wasted your time by the end of the post.
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| Basically, I need you help. I am re-creating the BSG seal that sits nicely above the CiC door. I am making it out of wood and all the pieces you see on it are all individually shaped, sprayed, and then assembled. creating the pieces, eg. the caprican crest in the centre are not hard to make. the proplem is the colours used for the paint. I cannot get an accurate reading from a picture of the real thing and most other pictures have a light shining down on it and distorts the colour.
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| would you, or any of your colleagues know where I could find out the colour chart? it would be greatly appreciated. I am creating it for use in my own home. something to spruce the place up a bit.
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| Thanks again for taking time out and once again, I hope I did not waste your time as I realise this might a very unorthodox post.
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| : Joker, I've replied to you on the Battlestar Forum, and it's certainly ''not'' a waste of my time. Basically, I can probably snag a color chart from the department crew when I'm in Vancouver for the research and cataloging we're doing for the [http://www.battlestarprops.com Battlestar Galactica Props & Costumes Auction]. I can't tell you when exactly I'll be able to get that information to you, but we do plan on interviewing people from the show for the Battlestar Props website, and we do have access to the crew up there. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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| == Razor script ==
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| I sent you an e-mail before I saw you say that you preferred being contacted here.
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| It mentioned in the Helena Cain sources that you read the script for Razor. Where'd you read it? -- [[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 21:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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| : Well, I've already e-mailed you back. :D (I've readded your comments here, since people may have the same question you do... :-) )
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| : However, for people who may have the same question on their minds... I am the research assistant for PropWorx's Battlestar Galactica auction, and as such I have access to the production materials (scripts, reference photos, art, etc.) for the show to aid in research. I can't make copies of the scripts available online, since the WGA and the production company would have my head, and will never give me permission to do so. Hence my "on this date, Joe read that this character comes from this place..." notes in the sources pages. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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| == Protecting the Ranks Page ==
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| I read your comment and wanted to ask if you even looked at the reasoning behind my changes. I'm glad to know somebody is here who actually has reliable information because admittedly a lot of what I've got is based on speculation. However as I commented to Serenity, I think it unfair that he constantly reverses all my changes without even looking at them (this isn't the only page I've battled with him over) and I feel like you just did the same thing. If you are going to lock it ok but at least look at the two conflicting versions and decide which parts of each should go up in the interim, because they way it is now, it's simply not fair. I believe some of my changes warrant being up there now such as my removal of ranks for which their is no support at all (Vice Admiral and Senior Chief Petty Officer) and the addition of certain people to the rank lists. I have felt from the time I joined like I couldn't do anything, any changes I made were promptly undone and I felt like if I complained I'd get booted out entirely since he is an administrator, if you want a truely open community everybody has to feel like they can participate and to tell you the truth, I have not felt that way at all. I know you don't want me to take it personally, but if you were in my position, wouldn't you?
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| : A couple things... I understand where you're coming from. I do see that Serenity contacted you earlier this month via your talk page, explaining his reasons why he reverted your changes when you joined. (You're fear of retribution for offering criticism or complaint is unwarranted, and something you projected upon yourself; simply put, you didn't know either way, but assumed the worst. We can't control that. Fact of the matter is that you didn't respond to him the first time.) That being said, I will ask you this: what would you have done if our roles were reversed?
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| : As for the issue of reviewing your edits, I did review them. you did make massive changes that were incorrect both factually and aesthetically. There actually is a "senior chief petty officer" rank, for instance, and there is logic behind there being a "vice admiral" rank (or similar, it may be called "senior admiral"), since it's been established that there's a "rear admiral". Further, there was absolutely no need for the "Razor, Part I" and "Razor, Part II" designations you've assigned, since "Razor" is one whole episode. (It has two production numbers for budgetary reasons, since they had to rebuild the sets for "Pegasus" after they'd been struck after Season 3. The production team members I've talked to considers that outing an interesting experience.) Not to mention the capitalization issues that you've added back in—it is bad form to capitalize ranks or titles, unless you're referring to a specific person when doing so, like Commander Adama or Admiral Cain.
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| : Further, as I noted on Serenity's talk page, I am fully cognizant of the fact that editing the contested article now would be a waste of time and resources for both parties concerned, simply because there is new information available to us that needs to be entered, information that I have access to. Once I get the opportunity to add that data from the reference materials I have, then I'll open it up again, and then both sides can make the determination on whether or not this issue was really worth all the hassle. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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| It took me several views before I noticed that there was one there. In S4E1: He That Believeth In Me, at about 4:30, look at the Viper behind Tyrol when he yells 'Get that showboat bird in the tubes!'. You can see that it's the older style by the square wing, instead of the more triangular ones on the newer versions. I only noticed it when my computer happened to freeze at that exact moment-I saw it, and thought 'Hey, that's the MKI from the miniseries!'
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| :::Yeah, that's what I thought. Would have surprised me. It might ''theoretically'' be one of the planes in the CGI set extension, but that's somewhat unlikely as well. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
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