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Welcome to the Wiki, Jetstorm316. Feel free to tell us about yourself on [[User:Jetstorm316|your user page]]. Before you get started on other edits, please read the [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions]], which details the policies we use in editing pages (this differs from many other wikis in consistent use of phrasing, abbreviations, format, and the like). | Welcome to the Wiki, Jetstorm316. Feel free to tell us about yourself on [[User:Jetstorm316|your user page]]. Before you get started on other edits, please read the [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions]], which details the policies we use in editing pages (this differs from many other wikis in consistent use of phrasing, abbreviations, format, and the like). | ||
Thanks for your rapid submissions — we welcome enthusiastic contributors. While not always easy, it's important to search around a bit before creating new articles. While the patches you've uploaded are interesting, the new [[ | Thanks for your rapid submissions — we welcome enthusiastic contributors. While not always easy, it's important to search around a bit before creating new articles. While the patches you've uploaded are interesting, the new [[Colonial arm patches and insignia]] article you created conflicts in part with the existing [[Military Ranks (RDM)]] and [[Military Ranks (TOS)]] articles, which already have much of this information. As an administrator, I need to mark your article as a candidate for deletion, but I strongly encourage you to move the relevant patches to the appropriate Military Ranks articles. We'll keep your page up for a time while you transfer the relevant information. Keep in mind that your uploaded pictures (unless they are actual screenshots or other Universal/Sci-Fi-distributed information) must have a source and be allowed here under our Creative Commons license or under ''fair use'' guidelines. If the items are likenesses to items that have a ''de facto'' copyright (such as the patches), these should be OK under ''fair use''. You may want to read the project article [[Battlestar Wiki:Citation Jihad|on official and verifiable sources]] as well. | ||
Also, if you have any questions or suggestions you wish to offer, please feel free to do so either on your user talk page, the [[Battlestar Wiki:Wikipedian Quorum|Wikipedian Quorum]] or [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]]. Remember to sign your posts on any talk pages using four tildes (~<!---->~~<!---->~)! We look forward to your contributions to the community! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:56, 20 February 2006 (EST) | Also, if you have any questions or suggestions you wish to offer, please feel free to do so either on your user talk page, the [[Battlestar Wiki:Wikipedian Quorum|Wikipedian Quorum]] or [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]]. Remember to sign your posts on any talk pages using four tildes (~<!---->~~<!---->~)! We look forward to your contributions to the community! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:56, 20 February 2006 (EST) | ||
== Don't Take it Personally == | == Don't Take it Personally == | ||
The Merovengian has a way of rubbing most people the wrong way. Don't take it personally. On the same note, it'd probably be wise not to make it personal with him, either. I don't think he's seen much (if any) of the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], though he certainly isn't in the minority with that regard around here. Our uniforms page is in desperate need of some color (pictures), and the spirit of your contribution is definitely great. Some of the other editors are just worried about redundancy (which should generally be avoided) and copyright issues (which must be avoided at all costs). I'd reccomend working trying to work it out on that article's [[Talk: | The Merovengian has a way of rubbing most people the wrong way. Don't take it personally. On the same note, it'd probably be wise not to make it personal with him, either. I don't think he's seen much (if any) of the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]], though he certainly isn't in the minority with that regard around here. Our uniforms page is in desperate need of some color (pictures), and the spirit of your contribution is definitely great. Some of the other editors are just worried about redundancy (which should generally be avoided) and copyright issues (which must be avoided at all costs). I'd reccomend working trying to work it out on that article's [[Talk:Colonial arm patches and insignia|talk page]], or the [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin noticeboard]] before getting into a shooting match with Merv. It's likely that a way can be found to find a place for most/all of your contributions, all without having to pull out the BSG-o-meter to determine who the "biggest" fan is. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:54, 20 February 2006 (EST) | ||
:Steelviper, I would like you to visit my [[User talk:The Merovingian|Talk page]], in which I make a full rebuttal to this. Done? Thanks. --->Long story short, you deleted many of his images, and all I actually did was remove several links to "patches and insignia" which it appears will soon be deleted. Because he is new and not familiar with how to use History pages (I assume), Jetstorm316 then ran to my talk page and made a rant blaming me for the loss of his images after "much hard work", etc. | :Steelviper, I would like you to visit my [[User talk:The Merovingian|Talk page]], in which I make a full rebuttal to this. Done? Thanks. --->Long story short, you deleted many of his images, and all I actually did was remove several links to "patches and insignia" which it appears will soon be deleted. Because he is new and not familiar with how to use History pages (I assume), Jetstorm316 then ran to my talk page and made a rant blaming me for the loss of his images after "much hard work", etc. | ||
However, I hasten to point out SteelViper that '''He openly admits that he got many of these images off a E-Bay, and several are obviously wrong''': case in point, he provided the following image: [[ | However, I hasten to point out SteelViper that '''He openly admits that he got many of these images off a E-Bay, and several are obviously wrong''': case in point, he provided the following image: [[Image:Arm patch 1.jpg|right|300px]] | ||
This is clearly not correct, despite his claims of hard work: Pegasus' Battlestar Group was 62, not 63. He would have noticed if he paid closer attention, as he claims. I do not want to assign blame, all I want to do is point out that '''I seriously doubt that any of these images are properly sourced, and as such, have much actual worth'''. Please check out my talk page for more details, and you shall see why his attack on me is really baseless. 5 by 5. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 20:19, 20 February 2006 (EST) | This is clearly not correct, despite his claims of hard work: Pegasus' Battlestar Group was 62, not 63. He would have noticed if he paid closer attention, as he claims. I do not want to assign blame, all I want to do is point out that '''I seriously doubt that any of these images are properly sourced, and as such, have much actual worth'''. Please check out my talk page for more details, and you shall see why his attack on me is really baseless. 5 by 5. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 20:19, 20 February 2006 (EST) | ||
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:# The Merovingian agrees, using his signature "[[Wikipedia:Gunboat diplomacy|diplomacy]]". | :# The Merovingian agrees, using his signature "[[Wikipedia:Gunboat diplomacy|diplomacy]]". | ||
:# Jetstorm316 strikes back at Merv's comments about not recognizing the patches, sparking a personal exchange on talk pages. | :# Jetstorm316 strikes back at Merv's comments about not recognizing the patches, sparking a personal exchange on talk pages. | ||
:I don't think this situation has escalated to the "ban" category yet. (Other Admins are free to step in and correct me if I am wrong). If you look at the [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page= Block Log], you'll see that blocks are not done lightly. While I'll grant that 'Take this "Site", bend over and shove it! I'll start my own, you dumb yank!' is certainly inflammatory, it was also posted in the heat of the moment (something to which I'm sure you can relate). Call me naive, but it is still my hope that Jetstorm316 might be able to stick around and become a valuable contributor here. He's new to the place, but rather than trying to run him off right away, perhaps we should instead try to show him the ropes. Rather than expending energy in conflict with each other, perhaps our efforts would be better spent [[Talk: | :I don't think this situation has escalated to the "ban" category yet. (Other Admins are free to step in and correct me if I am wrong). If you look at the [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page= Block Log], you'll see that blocks are not done lightly. While I'll grant that 'Take this "Site", bend over and shove it! I'll start my own, you dumb yank!' is certainly inflammatory, it was also posted in the heat of the moment (something to which I'm sure you can relate). Call me naive, but it is still my hope that Jetstorm316 might be able to stick around and become a valuable contributor here. He's new to the place, but rather than trying to run him off right away, perhaps we should instead try to show him the ropes. Rather than expending energy in conflict with each other, perhaps our efforts would be better spent [[Talk:Colonial arm patches and insignia|over here]], discussing where Jetstorm316's contributions might best be placed. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:01, 21 February 2006 (EST) | ||
:::"''How you survived this long, I will never know...''". You're a better man than I, SteelViper. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:23, 22 February 2006 (EST) | :::"''How you survived this long, I will never know...''". You're a better man than I, SteelViper. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:23, 22 February 2006 (EST) | ||
::I won't say that this situation cries out for a ban immediately, but editing other user's coments on talk pages and using childish potty language definitely puts him on thin ice in my book. --[[User: | ::I won't say that this situation cries out for a ban immediately, but editing other user's coments on talk pages and using childish potty language definitely puts him on thin ice in my book. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:10, 21 February 2006 (EST) | ||
Can I bring Mr. Fargo's attention to point no.3 of Steelvipers comments on this matter. Besides, I've washed my hands of this matter and moved on. Childish potty language was designed to get his attention, which clearly worked. Remember, I do have the freedom to carry out my promise, should I be given sufficiant reason to..... --Jetstorm316 | Can I bring Mr. Fargo's attention to point no.3 of Steelvipers comments on this matter. Besides, I've washed my hands of this matter and moved on. Childish potty language was designed to get his attention, which clearly worked. Remember, I do have the freedom to carry out my promise, should I be given sufficiant reason to..... --Jetstorm316 | ||
:There is no excuse for behaving that way, even when provoked. Don't do it again. That is all. --[[User: | :There is no excuse for behaving that way, even when provoked. Don't do it again. That is all. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:16, 21 February 2006 (EST) | ||
::Can ''I'' bring everyone's point of attention to something: No, he has not "washed his hands of this and moved on"; all of his recent posts were devoted to just this, and the brief Dress Uniform discussion on the Uniform page. That doesn't not ''seem'' like moving on to me; however, perhaps he meant "in attitude and intention" or something, that he personally has dropped the matter; I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and if he accepts these Administrator chastisements and agrees to abide by our rules, all is well; I'm not like bearing a grudge or something, demanding punishment; simply, as Farago stated above; No, "potty language to get attention" is not welcome here, and you should not try to defend it on the grounds that it gets attention. I don't know. I leave this matter to the Administrators, and if it persists, I am sure they will do what they think is best. 5 by 5. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:31, 22 February 2006 (EST) | ::Can ''I'' bring everyone's point of attention to something: No, he has not "washed his hands of this and moved on"; all of his recent posts were devoted to just this, and the brief Dress Uniform discussion on the Uniform page. That doesn't not ''seem'' like moving on to me; however, perhaps he meant "in attitude and intention" or something, that he personally has dropped the matter; I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and if he accepts these Administrator chastisements and agrees to abide by our rules, all is well; I'm not like bearing a grudge or something, demanding punishment; simply, as Farago stated above; No, "potty language to get attention" is not welcome here, and you should not try to defend it on the grounds that it gets attention. I don't know. I leave this matter to the Administrators, and if it persists, I am sure they will do what they think is best. 5 by 5. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:31, 22 February 2006 (EST) | ||
== Mini Profile + Pic == | == Mini Profile + Pic == | ||
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Got a good communique going on uniform, consider this topic, redirected to relevent site--[[user:jetstorm316|jetstorm316]] | Got a good communique going on uniform, consider this topic, redirected to relevent site--[[user:jetstorm316|jetstorm316]] | ||