Editing User talk:Ericshirey03

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== Copyrighted Content? ==
Your recent book reviews contributions appear identical to copyrighted works such as [http://www.blast.net/hart/SagaReview.htm this one]. Are you the author of those works, or do you otherwise have permission of the author to report their work here? Thanks. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:51, 3 January 2007 (CST)
:Hey, if you could stop contributing for a moment, we'd appreciate it if you could address the copyright concerns. The content of this site falls under the creative commons license, and the content added needs to be your own (or be fair use, or have permission from the author). If you continue adding the copyrighted reviews we may have to block you from contributing until the copyright concerns have been addressed. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:16, 3 January 2007 (CST)
<br><br>I believe that since I have given proper credit to the site that this was taken from, it would be covered under fair use.  i also emailed the author just to make sure he was alright with it.
:A few cited quotes might fall under fair use, but the wholesale copy almost surely wouldn't. (Though Peter Farago is our copyright expert around here.) Thanks for contacting the author. We could definitely post a link to his site (external links), but unless he gives permission for us to use his content we probably should remove the actual text. If we do get permission to copy his work wholesale (which would be very generous), we might want to consider revising the prose to be more encyclopedic (just the fact, ma'am) rather than having bias. Any good review is going to have bias, but we're looking more for the facts (like the plot points, etc.) Thanks for responding, and for taking the initiative in contacting the author. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:46, 3 January 2007 (CST)

<br><br>yeah - i'll stopu posting his entire articles and just put part of it with a link to the whole review, etc.  sorry about that.  if i hear back from him, i'll let you know.

== Feedback on Rewrite ==
Outstanding job on the review rewrite. Much more neutral and covers the material. Make sure to use your own wording wherever possible, but it looks good. You might want to go ahead and wipe out the plot points section (that's pretty extensive), but you can mention that a review that covers the plot points in detail can be found at that link in an "External Links" section below the book summary. If you need a hand doing that, let me know. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:40, 3 January 2007 (CST)
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 :Hey, if you could stop contributing for a moment, we'd appreciate it if you could address the copyright concerns. The content of this site falls under the creative commons license, and the content added needs to be your own (or be fair use, or have permission from the author). If you continue adding the copyrighted reviews we may have to block you from contributing until the copyright concerns have been addressed. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:16, 3 January 2007 (CST)
 <br><br>I believe that since I have given proper credit to the site that this was taken from, it would be covered under fair use.  i also emailed the author just to make sure he was alright with it.
-:A few cited quotes might fall under fair use, but the wholesale copy almost surely wouldn't. (Though April Arcus is our copyright expert around here.) Thanks for contacting the author. We could definitely post a link to his site (external links), but unless he gives permission for us to use his content we probably should remove the actual text. If we do get permission to copy his work wholesale (which would be very generous), we might want to consider revising the prose to be more encyclopedic (just the fact, ma'am) rather than having bias. Any good review is going to have bias, but we're looking more for the facts (like the plot points, etc.) Thanks for responding, and for taking the initiative in contacting the author. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:46, 3 January 2007 (CST)
+:A few cited quotes might fall under fair use, but the wholesale copy almost surely wouldn't. (Though Peter Farago is our copyright expert around here.) Thanks for contacting the author. We could definitely post a link to his site (external links), but unless he gives permission for us to use his content we probably should remove the actual text. If we do get permission to copy his work wholesale (which would be very generous), we might want to consider revising the prose to be more encyclopedic (just the fact, ma'am) rather than having bias. Any good review is going to have bias, but we're looking more for the facts (like the plot points, etc.) Thanks for responding, and for taking the initiative in contacting the author. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:46, 3 January 2007 (CST)
 <br><br>yeah - i'll stopu posting his entire articles and just put part of it with a link to the whole review, etc.  sorry about that.  if i hear back from him, i'll let you know.
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 == Feedback on Rewrite ==
 Outstanding job on the review rewrite. Much more neutral and covers the material. Make sure to use your own wording wherever possible, but it looks good. You might want to go ahead and wipe out the plot points section (that's pretty extensive), but you can mention that a review that covers the plot points in detail can be found at that link in an "External Links" section below the book summary. If you need a hand doing that, let me know. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:40, 3 January 2007 (CST)
-And if the plot points are kept, or at least in part, the dashes should be replaced with stars to create bullet points. But POV-wise it looks pretty good now :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 14:49, 3 January 2007 (CST)
-:One of the positives of this discussion was I learned a great deal more about [[w:Fair use|Fair use]]. The relevant sentence of the wikipedia article is that, "In general, the less that is used in relation to the whole, e.g., a few sentences of a text for a book review, the more likely that the sample will be considered fair use." So I worry that if we keep the plot points, which comprise a substantial portion of the work, we'd be at risk. However, if we can summarize the reviews in an encycopedic manner, I think we'd be in better shape. The more we can use our own words to summarize (lacking permission to copy it outright), the better. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:58, 3 January 2007 (CST)
-== Copyright Issues ==
-Your latest [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Resurrection_%28book%29&curid=6806&diff=100333&oldid=85974&rcid=99913 contribution] to [[Resurrection (book)]] appears to have copied the text from [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/rhbooks/rhbooks0001.htm here]. As the copyright note at the bottom of the edit box indicates, "DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION UNLESS APPROPRIATELY CREDITED; IT MUST BE FAIR USE MATERIAL!" Fair use is a tricky thing, but at the most it is a small excerpt from a work and not a work in its entirety, uncredited. You've been blocked (from editing) for a day. I this helps you realize the gravity of the situation, as the Wiki must be protected from the liability of copyright infringements. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:26, 5 January 2007 (CST)
-== Final warning: cease copy and pasting copyrighted information ==
-In regards to the reviews and plot synopses you've posted on BSG books: Desist copy and pasting copyrighted information to the wiki or '''you will be banned indefinitely'''. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, please feel free to communicate them here. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 10:06, 8 January 2007 (CST)
-<br><br>I haven't posted anything else from a published work and I've actually edited everything I've put up since Friday.{{unsigned|Ericshirey03}}
-:The text at [[Rebellion]] appears to have been copy and pasted from [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/rhbooks/rhbooks0001.htm here]. Unless you wrote that (at the original site) or have permission from the author to reproduce it, it shouldn't be copied outright. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:08, 8 January 2007 (CST)
-:Eric, I'm referring to "[[Rebellion]]", which you edited today (8 January 2007) from which you apparently copied content from battlestargalactica.com -- not on the past book entries you contributed to. Just don't copy and paste anything from other websites, please? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 13:14, 8 January 2007 (CST)