Editing User talk:BlueResistance

== A Note on Language/Aerelon/Grace Park ==

It is true that Grace Park is a fluent speaker of Korean, but her English--either as Sharon Valerii or as herself in interviews--bears no trace of a Korean accent whatsoever.  I am married to a native Korean speaker, have friends and colleagues who speak Korean either as their first or second language, and have been studying the language for a few years myself, so I am absolutely certain that Korean has no bearing on what might or might not be considered an Aerelon accent.

On a somewhat smaller matter, there is no accepted version of English called "General English," with a capital G.  I am willing to accept a lower case g, "general English," to indicate "common sense" notions about the accent/group of accents.

:Please, do me the courtesy of replying to my comments before altering [[Language in the Twelve Colonies]] unilaterally. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:45, 19 October 2005 (EDT)

::I'm sorry, I'm new to this system and I didn't see your comments or the "Languages of the Twelve Colonies" talk page until after I had made the changes.  I'm still trying to figure out exactly what goes where.

:::No harm, no foul. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:48, 19 October 2005 (EDT)

Can I just respond to you here, for now?  It seems more convenient.  You said that Grace Park's bilingualism would come up eventually.  I would recommend limiting discussions of her bilingualism to the actress' bio page.  The label "Korean" doesn't meaningfully describe anything that's going on when Sharon/Boomer is speaking.  My own Korean is getting good enough that I'm approaching true "bilingual" status, but nobody would use "Korean" to describe my English.

:It's better to have the conversation on the relevant article's talk page, so that others can participate. I'm copying your comments there once again. Tip: to sign your comments, use <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:55, 19 October 2005 (EDT)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for reverting the idiotic blanking vandalism done recently! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 05:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:My pleasure, but sorry I got around to fixing only two or three--some problems came up here at home.  --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 12:10, 30 December 2010 (EDT)
:: No need to apologize, I was able to get the rest. Hope all is well! :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 19:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== Punctuation ==

A comma is after the second quotation mark, not before, when the reason there are quotation marks is that it's an episode title, as this makes the marks part of an object not a quote. A comma is not used before the last term in a series when it's a simple series according to AP Style, which I follow in my work as web editor for my university's CIT department. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 10:12, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

:As you noted, AP style avoids serial commas before conjunctions in a series of simple terms.  However, Battlestar Wiki is not governed by AP style rules: it isn't journalism, nor is there anything in the Standards and Conventions regarding AP style.  Therefore, a writer may follow AP style on this point or s/he may not, based on her/his preference.  I won't second guess your choice in this matter.  But, you are wrong about commas and periods inside or outside quotation marks and AP style--even AP style requires them inside the quotation marks, with no exceptions for the titles of creative works.  Here is a small selection of websites covering AP style, including at least one with samples of creative works in quotation marks:

http://www.brandeis.edu/communications/webcommunications/images/apstyle.pdf
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/735/02/
http://www.sc.edu/webpresence/editorial_guide/punctuation.html

Placing commas and periods inside quotation marks is not just an AP rule; it is standard across the majority of American styles, unless there is a chance of ambiguity, which would not be a risk here.  You're confusing American style with British style (a.k.a. "logical punctuation").   

HOWEVER, bringing the discussion back to Battlestar Wiki, the specific [[Battlestar_Wiki:Standards_and_Conventions/Prose#Episode.2C_TV.2C_and_Movie_Title_Formats|Standards and Conventions for this wiki]] state, "Contrary to standard American punctuation rules, place commas and periods after the quotation mark."  Therefore, you were correct about the commas in this case, but not for the reason you thought.  --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]], 23:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC).
: I didn't say the quote thing was AP. Anyway, I'm glad it's resolved. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 19:16, 12 June 2011 (EDT)


==Aft Damage Control==

Hi BlueResistance ... I see what you did to my edits on [[Aft Damage Control]] and I think they look great - thanks for cleaning it up as nicely as you did, I agree that it looks better now than my last edit - [[User:Flatulist|Flatulist]] 22:03, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

==Spammers==

Since you and I are being targeted in that last spat of spam, I protected our user and talk pages. As of now, only admin can modify the user pages and no new or unregistered people can edit our talk pages. This should prevent or minimize the risk of that happening again. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 07:57, 7 October 2012 (EDT)

== Osiris == 

I know. It's weird. But I keep hearing it referenced as a Battlestar in official media. To me, it isn't, but I asked about it on the official B&C Facebook page, which I think is run by one of BSG Wiki's founders, I got a reply back stating it's written on the ship's patch. When I went back to episode 4, I can barely see "battlestar" written on it, but the ship is too dark to make out the ship's name. Curiously, many of the characters are filmed from their right side. 

I've put in an inquiry to the ANOVOS page (who made the B&C uniforms), to see what they did with the patch. 

Maybe perhaps in canon it might be an earlier "battlestar" built before the onset of the war? It's been said on Serge's Twitter that the Colonials were already using that designation before the war. 

-- [[user:Frylock86|Frylock86]]

== Great work! ==

I would like to congratulate you on your good work in maintaining such things as the airdates and so on. I really appreciate it.--[[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 22:13, 23 March 2013 (EDT)
:My pleasure! -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 09:49, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

== My recent edits ==

Let me know on my talk page when you get this with your response. I didn't get that message from you until a few minutes ago so sorry about that. You can erase the Delphi Skirmish page if you want, your probably right about that, but the others should probably stay. Most of my other edits that are not new pages are adding information where its lacking and in some pages like the Sharon Valerii page adding the episode tags. I wrote most of the information where those tags had to go myself back when the episode came out (I also created some of the battle pages such as the Battle of the Colony) and forgot to add them then. I noticed it and fixed it that's all. On the Kobol battle page I added a bit more where it seemed warranted. I actually considered adding the Skirmish on Kobol as part of that battle but then I decided to make it separate since I figured there must be a reason it wasn't added there as part of that battle. Not too sure about the Skirmish With a Raider page so if you think it should go do it but I thought it should be added since they ''did'' battle that Raider. The one with Scar should stay since that was kinda a major skirmish. I added Hera's kidnapping since that was a major event that led up to the Battle of the Colony. The one at the farm was kinda major since that's where they met Simon for the first time and its more than just a hand-to-hand fight so I'd like that kept if possible. I figured it'd be alright to add the skirmishes since the one over the Red Moon is there so its obviously not forbidden. I'm just on a BSG craze lately and decided to add some stuff. That's it though besides any edits to existing pages I feel need to be done. As for the multiple edits to the pages I created that was mostly me going back and editing ''myself'' where I noticed mistakes when I read the completed product. My computer is giving me a hard time with displaying the finished work and I can't get preview pages. I actually have to save then hit Back to the original opened page to see what I've done all the time. Believe it or not I've got Rollback rights on the Kane Chronicles wiki due to my contributions there (don't really understand that) and was promoted to Administrator myself on the Gears of War wiki. Not sure how ''that'' happened and I don't really do much more than I used to do as I don't really understand that role.--[[User:WarGrowlmon15|WarGrowlmon15]] 02:52, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:Please don't explain all of this.  Just allow your work to stand or fall on its own.  More importantly, take a short break and give other users of the Wiki a chance to catch up. -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 07:39, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
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 On a somewhat smaller matter, there is no accepted version of English called "General English," with a capital G.  I am willing to accept a lower case g, "general English," to indicate "common sense" notions about the accent/group of accents.
-:Please, do me the courtesy of replying to my comments before altering [[Language in the Twelve Colonies]] unilaterally. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:45, 19 October 2005 (EDT)
+:Please, do me the courtesy of replying to my comments before altering [[Language in the Twelve Colonies]] unilaterally. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:45, 19 October 2005 (EDT)
 ::I'm sorry, I'm new to this system and I didn't see your comments or the "Languages of the Twelve Colonies" talk page until after I had made the changes.  I'm still trying to figure out exactly what goes where.
-:::No harm, no foul. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:48, 19 October 2005 (EDT)
+:::No harm, no foul. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:48, 19 October 2005 (EDT)
 Can I just respond to you here, for now?  It seems more convenient.  You said that Grace Park's bilingualism would come up eventually.  I would recommend limiting discussions of her bilingualism to the actress' bio page.  The label "Korean" doesn't meaningfully describe anything that's going on when Sharon/Boomer is speaking.  My own Korean is getting good enough that I'm approaching true "bilingual" status, but nobody would use "Korean" to describe my English.
-:It's better to have the conversation on the relevant article's talk page, so that others can participate. I'm copying your comments there once again. Tip: to sign your comments, use <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:55, 19 October 2005 (EDT)
+:It's better to have the conversation on the relevant article's talk page, so that others can participate. I'm copying your comments there once again. Tip: to sign your comments, use <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:55, 19 October 2005 (EDT)
 == Thanks! ==
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 Let me know on my talk page when you get this with your response. I didn't get that message from you until a few minutes ago so sorry about that. You can erase the Delphi Skirmish page if you want, your probably right about that, but the others should probably stay. Most of my other edits that are not new pages are adding information where its lacking and in some pages like the Sharon Valerii page adding the episode tags. I wrote most of the information where those tags had to go myself back when the episode came out (I also created some of the battle pages such as the Battle of the Colony) and forgot to add them then. I noticed it and fixed it that's all. On the Kobol battle page I added a bit more where it seemed warranted. I actually considered adding the Skirmish on Kobol as part of that battle but then I decided to make it separate since I figured there must be a reason it wasn't added there as part of that battle. Not too sure about the Skirmish With a Raider page so if you think it should go do it but I thought it should be added since they ''did'' battle that Raider. The one with Scar should stay since that was kinda a major skirmish. I added Hera's kidnapping since that was a major event that led up to the Battle of the Colony. The one at the farm was kinda major since that's where they met Simon for the first time and its more than just a hand-to-hand fight so I'd like that kept if possible. I figured it'd be alright to add the skirmishes since the one over the Red Moon is there so its obviously not forbidden. I'm just on a BSG craze lately and decided to add some stuff. That's it though besides any edits to existing pages I feel need to be done. As for the multiple edits to the pages I created that was mostly me going back and editing ''myself'' where I noticed mistakes when I read the completed product. My computer is giving me a hard time with displaying the finished work and I can't get preview pages. I actually have to save then hit Back to the original opened page to see what I've done all the time. Believe it or not I've got Rollback rights on the Kane Chronicles wiki due to my contributions there (don't really understand that) and was promoted to Administrator myself on the Gears of War wiki. Not sure how ''that'' happened and I don't really do much more than I used to do as I don't really understand that role.--[[User:WarGrowlmon15|WarGrowlmon15]] 02:52, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
 :Please don't explain all of this.  Just allow your work to stand or fall on its own.  More importantly, take a short break and give other users of the Wiki a chance to catch up. -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 07:39, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
-::Well I ''am'' done for now. Like I said the most I'll do is minor edits to existing pages like I've done in the past. I'm all done adding new pages. I would've liked it though if you'd responded to my thoughts about why I did the things I did. I wrote that because I wanted your opinion on it.--[[User:WarGrowlmon15|WarGrowlmon15]] 12:30, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
-:::I will respond in detail, while reviewing and editing individual contributions (and hopefully other users will contribute, too).  A user talk page isn't the place to go into every specific issue with other articles.  Trying to comment on everything in one massive paragraph at once would be too time consuming (one of the main issues here) and overwhelming from both a writing perspective and a reading perspective.  --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 12:50, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
-::::I actually ''did'' put some of my thoughts on the talk page for the Skirmish With Scar article when I wrote it but no one's responded. I'm just curious if your going to delete the Delphi Museum one. I know you don't like it and probably have a point (and in the paragraph I said go ahead if you want to) but its still up. All I want is the Scar, Farm, Kobol and Kidnapping of Hera pages to stay. I think they're important enough to the plot to warrant that much. I don't care if they're edited, go ahead and do that, I ''welcome'' it but I just don't want all my work deleted.--[[User:WarGrowlmon15|WarGrowlmon15]] 13:37, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
-:::::Unfortunately, you aren't understanding the need to step back and allow others the time they require to look through your work, or my request that you avoid discussing individual articles here.  I'll have to put up a block.  Remember that this is only temporary. -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 17:41, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
-== My Block ==
-I'm also posting this here since I'm not sure if your watching my talk page. If you are, sorry and just let me know. I've never seen Crapica and I don't do episode summaries so I won't be doing Blood and Chrome. I've tried to add information on pages where it was needed by that's it. Oh and you said the block was till Friday or Saturday. It's Monday and it kinda pissed me off especially as you've left a broken link on a page for days that's easily fixed and I can't do anything about it. I told you I was basically done. All I was doing when you blocked me was making a few of the battle pages that were just one giant summary into pages that looked more like most of the battle pages on this wiki. They weren't really up to standards.--[[User:WarGrowlmon15|WarGrowlmon15]] 11:51, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
-== Redundant Links ==
-We don't put links in each section here that are the same??? Sorry, I didn't realize that. I'm a major contributor on ''many'' wikis including this one and actually hold the position of Administrator (their version of Chief) on another one due to all my contributions. On the other ones, including the one where I'm Administrator we put links like that. Or at least no one's said any different. I thought that was fine. Oh and thanks for fixing the Battle of the Asteroid Fields thing. That ''is'' a better name and it is still at least mostly my work.--[[User:WarGrowlmon15|WarGrowlmon15]] 11:54, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
-== Hey there! ==
-Blue: Hey there! Glad to see that you and Jubal are trying to keep the old Bucket operational.
-I'm trying to get in here weekly now, despite the fact that we're clearly in maintenance mode with no new content. I still have sysop priveleges but I see database errors are occurring with any edit. We need Joe/Shane's return to help here for as long as the wiki is hosted to tweak or update the database code Thus, I won't approve any pending account requests I see but want to put up a message indicating that the wiki is in maintenance mode for now, as well as try to change Featured Articles and such.
-Let me know what's been up and how I can help anywhere. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:13, 13 November 2014 (EST)
-:Hello!  It will still be possible for previously registered users to make edits, yes?  Right now, I'm just updating TV schedules, but once the semester is over, I'm planning to do more (long overdue) ''Caprica'' episode summaries. -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 09:39, 14 November 2014 (EST)
-== The movie ==
-Hi, I'm a long-time (but incredibly infrequent) poster, so my skills are virtually nil. I wrote an article at [[Battlestar Galactica Movie]], which is pretty terrible. I'm sure the name alone violates a rule somewhere. However, I could find no article covering the topic, and it does seem to be legitimately posted on this wiki's Twitter account.
-I'm hoping it can be turned into a reasonable-looking article. Right now there's few hard facts, so there's little to put into it right now. [[User:Kimera757|Kimera757]] 18:59, 13 June 2016 (EDT)
-:The earlier an article is started, the better--it's certainly easier to add specific details as they come up, rather than waiting for the topic to become gigantic.  Setting up the new article now was a good decision.  I doubt that there is any rule against the title that you have now; until production really gets going and Universal announces a release date, it's probably the best title possible.  However, there are details about the movie's development that should be added right away.  It has been in development hell for quite a few years (regardless of any connection to the 1987 proposal).  Check out [[wikipedia:Battlestar_Galactica|this Wikipedia entry]] and scroll down to the Feature Film section for the basics and for references.  -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 15:50, 14 June 2016 (EDT)