Editing Template talk:Dead Characters

==Dead Cylons==
Comprehensive list of Cylon copies who have died outside of Resurrection Ship Range:
*Entire crew of two basestars, resurrection ship and support ships in the [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]]
*[[Scar (Raider)]] (Destroyed in "[[Scar]]")
*All Cylon casulaties in the [[Battle of the Binary Star System]]
*[[Number One#Galactica_Copy|Number One (''Galactica'' Copy)]] (Airlocked in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]"
*[[Number One#Caprica_Copy|Number One (Caprica Copy)]] (Airlocked in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]"
*[[Gina]] (Suicide in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]")
*Entire crew of the basestar crippled by [[lymphocytic encephalitis]] in "[[Torn]]" (Resurrection Ship is ordered to jump out of range)
**Including the five prisoners (a Two, Four, Five, Six and Eight) killed by Helo in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]" (Asphyxiated outside of resurrection ship range)
*Many Twos, Sixes and Eights in the opening shots of the [[Cylon Civil War]] in "[[The Ties That Bind]]". Many basestars are even completely destroyed in this battle ([[Faith]]), presumably killing all aboard.
*An otherwise unidentified Six previously drowned by Jean Barolay in "[[Faith]]"
*An unidentified Eight in "[[Faith]]" (shot by a Centurion)

Problematic cases:
*[[Number_Three#Fleet_Copy|Number Three (Fleet Copy)]], a.k.a. "D'Anna Biers". Did Sam Anders expose her upon joining the fleet in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]"? Or did she manage to lay low until the start of the Cylon occupation?
*Crew of the [[Guardian basestar]] and the [[First Hybrid]] during the [[Battle of the Guardian basestar]] in "[[Razor]]" (did this faction have its own resurrection ship? Were its models capable of downloading at all?)

--[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

: Well, my understanding of this template is that we chronicle important deaths of recurring or major characters... Otherwise, I see this template getting whacked and out of control real quickly. So, Gina definitely counts, given her recurring character status; the other various copies don't.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:48, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
::Sure, just trying to make sure nothing slipped through the cracks. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Did some minor tweaks here and there. I know it's not good practice on talk pages, but it's more practical in this case. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Don't sweat it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shaw and Belzen ==

How about adding [[Kendra Shaw]] and [[Jurgen Belzen]]? While not recurring, their deaths were important to the plot. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 10:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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 *An otherwise unidentified Six previously drowned by Jean Barolay in "[[Faith]]"
 *An unidentified Eight in "[[Faith]]" (shot by a Centurion)
-*[[Natalie]] (shot by Athena in "[[Guess What's Coming To Dinner?]]")
-*Pilot Eight (electrocuted in "[[The Face of the Enemy]]")
-*Sweet Eight (stabbed by Gaeta in "[[The Face of the Enemy]]")
 Problematic cases:
 *[[Number_Three#Fleet_Copy|Number Three (Fleet Copy)]], a.k.a. "D'Anna Biers". Did Sam Anders expose her upon joining the fleet in "[[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]"? Or did she manage to lay low until the start of the Cylon occupation?
 *Crew of the [[Guardian basestar]] and the [[First Hybrid]] during the [[Battle of the Guardian basestar]] in "[[Razor]]" (did this faction have its own resurrection ship? Were its models capable of downloading at all?)
-*[[Ellen Tigh]], poisoned by her husband in "[[Exodus, Part II]]". Did the Final Five have resurrection facilities? Were they in range of New Caprica at the time of Ellen's death?
-*A Cavil copy in a leadership position (necked snapped by Three in "[[The Hub]]"). This copy may have been able to resurrect and escape in the time between his death and the Hub's destruction.
---[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
+--[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 : Well, my understanding of this template is that we chronicle important deaths of recurring or major characters... Otherwise, I see this template getting whacked and out of control real quickly. So, Gina definitely counts, given her recurring character status; the other various copies don't.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:48, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
-::Sure, just trying to make sure nothing slipped through the cracks. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
+::Sure, just trying to make sure nothing slipped through the cracks. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 :::Did some minor tweaks here and there. I know it's not good practice on talk pages, but it's more practical in this case. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
-::::Don't sweat it. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
+::::Don't sweat it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 == Shaw and Belzen ==
 How about adding [[Kendra Shaw]] and [[Jurgen Belzen]]? While not recurring, their deaths were important to the plot. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 10:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
-:Yes to Kendra. No to Jurgen IMO. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 11:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
-::Shaw is not ''that'' important. Like [[Alastair Thorne]], Shaw was important in one episode, if you look at the large scheme of things. Plus, if you're going to go that route, you may as well throw in [[Maya]], who had multiple appearances and was the caretaker for [[Hera]]. So... only really major or recurring characters should really belong in this template. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 12:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
-:::Well, I'd say that both Kendra and Maya were more important than Mathias, who mostly just played the role of a "generic Marine". [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 14:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
-::::I propose, as a rule of thumb, that we not allow characters on this template who only appear in one episode. Otherwise, there's an argument for the inclusion of every named redshirt pilot. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 15:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Agreed. When the [[:Category:Deceased Characters (RDM)]] is replete with entries, we can link that from this template for all those one shots. --[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
-== Peter Laird ==
-Should he be added? [[User:Space Lizard|Space Lizard]] 18:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)