Editing Template talk:Cast Data

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==Proposal for new fields to be added==
*Nationality of actor/actress (including flag {{flag|UK}})
*Date of birth
*Date of death (optional and mainly for TOS actors)
*Age (automaticly worked out by a formula by DOB etc?)
--[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 05:09, 28 November 2006 (CST)
:I'm game. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:57, 28 November 2006 (CST)
::I added the new parameters, is there a way of making it look a bit neater on the pages though? as you can [[James Callis|see here]] the text is squished up against the edges rather than being 50/50 across --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 05:12, 30 November 2006 (CST)
:::Fixed and I have {{tl|age}} online to work out age: <code><nowiki>{{age|1982|5|3}}</nowiki></code> [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:00, 30 November 2006 (CST)
::::Is it just me, or does no one use {{tl|age}}? It's quite useful, and maybe it should be incorporated into this template. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 13:48, 24 February 2007 (CST)
:::I figured a lot of the templates would have to change. I'll post an example of what would be required to change for this to work. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:58, 24 February 2007 (CST)

Code be code ''[[John Colicos]]'':
<pre>
{{Star Data
| image = John_Colicos.jpg
| born_month= 12
| born_day= 10
| born_year= 1928
| death_month= 3
| death_day= 6
| death_year= 2000
| character= [[Baltar (TOS)|Lord Baltar]] 
| nationality= CA
| site=
| imdb= 0171475
}}
</pre>
* '''born_month''', '''born_day''', and '''born_year''': If these fields are filled out {{tl|Birth date and age}}. This will be overridden if ''all'' three death dates are entered and revert to just the date, and use [[:Category:Date/Time Related Templates|templates]] to show the date.
* '''death_month''', '''death_day''', and '''death_year''': If these fields are filled out {{tl|Death date and age}} will output actors death age. It will not update the age as the days go on.
:A bitch to code, I agree, but I'm willing to try nevertheless. I will have to create a temporary template again (see also discussion below), and my gut feeling says {{tl|ifdef}} will be useful. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 14:44, 24 February 2007 (CST)
::I already got the code in my head, we just all have to discuss this first. It has to be agreed upon because then there is a TON of pages to update. Tons. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:50, 24 February 2007 (CST)
:::Alright, I agree anyway. Maybe call a vote on this? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 14:58, 24 February 2007 (CST)
::::[[User:Shane/Testing Area]] has the code and example. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)
:::::Just to let those people know, I am going to update the main code tonight, so this is a project for me. Hope you come an join in! [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:19, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
::::::I'd love to help, but I've been busy with my [[BW:DD|first proposed policy]] this afternoon. I will try to do some dates this evening. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:26, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
::::::Managed to do 22 of them. Currently, the first 60 in [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Star Data|the list]] are done, out of roughly 250. [[:Category:Cast]] has 276 members however, weird ^^. Anyway, I'm off to bed, will continue tomorrow (if Shane hasn't done them all by then). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:27, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
:::::::I'll finshed where you left off. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:39, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

== Dual nationality ==
[[User:Silly Dan|Silly Dan]] [[Talk:Colm Feore|requested]] that the infobox for [[Colm Feore|an actor]] specify two nationalities. Because I couldn't edit this template (locked for obvious security reasons), I created a [[Template:Star data multinational|new template]] with an extra parameter for a second nationality. It's [[Colm Feore|up and working]], so could someone with admin access incorporate this parameter into this template? (Preferably Shane, he'll be able to see whether my template inadvertently breaks anything.) --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 13:48, 24 February 2007 (CST)
:Good idea, but actors are really only one primary nationality. We record where their born, not where they hold citizenship. Also, if you want to make a suggestion to a template, post it here first and we can work on it. For obvious reasons the other template you created was deleted because we can already do that without a template. I can see about adding a field that changes the nationally into an input to add more than one flag. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:53, 24 February 2007 (CST)
::I see. If specifying multiple nationalities is not supposed to happen in the first place, that's OK. I agree a new template wasn't necessary, but since I can't edit the existing template, I decided to copy&edit it to {{tl|Star data multinational}} as a temporary solution, until you could merge my parameter into the primary template. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 13:59, 24 February 2007 (CST)
:::The problem with this also, if your born in America your American. If your born in Canada, your Canadian. You come to the US your a US Cit, but that's not your nationality. So this might be moot. Maybe not upgrade the '''nationality''' field, but create a '''citizenship''' field. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:07, 24 February 2007 (CST)
::::That's not only a good idea, but also much cleaner and simpler to implement. It doesn't need {{tl|ifdef}}, for one thing. On a side note, wouldn't it be useful to keep {{tl|ifdef}} around just in case? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 14:13, 24 February 2007 (CST)
:::::No. The avg. user, at least here, doesn't ever use templates. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:16, 24 February 2007 (CST)
::::::I know that, but for us template makers, {{tl|ifdef}} has the potential to make life easier and templates cleaner. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 14:17, 24 February 2007 (CST)

== Vote ==
Proposed addition of fields ''birth_day'', ''birth_month'', ''birth_year'', ''death_day'', ''death_month'' and ''death_year'' to this template, in order to automatically calculate an actor's age. See also [[Template talk:Star Data#Proposal for new fields to be added|the discussion above]] and [[User:Shane/Testing Area|a working example]]. The code is ready for use, but loads of pages would have to be updated.

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Instructions: Use <nowiki>{{Support}}, {{Oppose}}, {{Abstain}}, and {{Neutral}}</nowiki>, supported by a reason and appropriately signed using the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). 

Other users are encouraged to vote as well, simply use {{tl|vote}} to add your vote. Refer to [[Template:Vote]] for complete instructions.

# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{Support}}. Why not? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 09:41, 6 March 2007 (CST)
# [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
# [[User:Day|Day]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
# [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] - {{Support}} --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 10:18, 6 March 2007 (CST)
# [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] -
# [[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] -
# [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] - {{Support}} --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:46, 6 March 2007 (CST)
# [[User:Shane|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:42, 6 March 2007 (CST)
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# [[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] - {{Support}} Resistance is futile. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:45, 6 March 2007 (CST)
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# [[User:Catrope|Catrope]] - {{support}} It's a nice improvement, and I volunteer for updating the actor pages. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] 09:32, 6 March 2007 (CST)

== Reason for Move ==

Because we ''are'' adding the new fields to the template on everyone's page is to add the dates sperate so the age is figured out automaticly. But how the heck will we know which ones are done and which ones are? Well simple.

Take this as an example...

* [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Star_Data]] - Shows all the pages using "Star Data"
* [[Edward James Olmos]] - Template was changed from "Star Data" to "Cast Data" and the new fields were updated.
* [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Star_Data]] - It's now not in this list so it's completed.

I am working from the list from top down, mercifull was working on it from bottom up. So start in the middle. While your at it, also check the categories to make sure everything is in order.

Hope I made this clear! [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 04:43, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
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 Hope I made this clear! [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 04:43, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
-== Problem With Series 2 Parameter ==
-When I was updating some of the infoboxes for actors that appeared in both BSG [RDM] and in the prequel series Caprica, I noticed that if I used the parameters "series" for RDM and "series 2" for Caprica, that one of the categories added to the bottom of the page would be TOS. Why is TOS being added as a category when the TOS identifier isn't used anywhere in the infobox? To see this error for yourself, just look at the [[Christian Tessier]] page, go to edit, disable the "nocat" parameter (remove the y) and click on the show preview button. Once the preview is loaded, look at the bottom of the page and you will see TOS as a category, even though the actor in question was never on TOS and none of the series codes used should be linked to TOS. If someone could explain why this happening and fix it so that it stops happening, I would greatly appreciate it. --[[User:JoyaOscura|JoyaOscura]] 04:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
-: Probably a syntax issue... I'll look into it a bit later. Thank you for the heads-up! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 04:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
-: Fixed. I don't see any other issues, but if some arise, just let us know! Thanks again, Joya! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
-== Defaultsort bug ==
-If the sortkey parameter is not specified, the page will be sorted incorrectly, under <nowiki>{{sortkey}}</nowiki>. You should change it to: <nowiki>{{#if:{{{sortkey|}}}|{{DEFAULTSORT:{{{sortkey}}}}}}}</nowiki> [[User:Nx|Nx]] 09:32, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
-: Bugfix implemented! Thank you, Nx! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)