Editing Talk:Valley of Darkness/Archive 1

==Technician in Valley of Darkness==

As I was working on this page, I realized that I forgot the name of the deckhand that Lee's group found in the small arms locker on deck 12... He's the one in the yellow uniform and he also had a small role in "[[Litmus]]"... -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 00:22, 23 Jul 2005 (EDT)
::It started with a "J" and at one point, when Lee said it, I thought he was calling him "Tarn" so it must be similar to that. Other than that, I'm stumped - although I taped the episode for a friend, I'll remember to keep my ears open when I re-watch it. [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 01:09, 23 Jul 2005 (EDT)

::He was called Jammer. At least...that sounds right. Yes. It's Jammer...just watched it again.-- [[user:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 23 July 2005 (EST)

==Kobol Questions==

Regarding the relativly recent skulls found on Kobol, perhaps there are humans or humano-cylons living there, after the exodous.  While Tyrol ''said'' that they were attacked by Cylons has there been any visual proof of that?  There is also the possiblity it was an automated defense system since Tyrol and Cali were not pursued and it appears that the bullets were all hitting the same general area w/o much movenment. -- [[user:shemnon|Danno Ferrin]] 10:19 MST, 23 July 2003

: I believe that they are Cylons; we just didn't see them.  Of course, they probably wouldn't full out attack given that Baltar is with them -- it wouldn't be in the best interest of the Cylon's plan to massacre the whole party but leave Baltar alive. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 10:25, 24 Jul 2005 (EDT)

== Is that the same Centurion model? ==

I'm not sure the Centurions that boarded the Galactica were the same model we've seen before.  It was dark, but I think their color may have been gold instead of silver, and they were much harder to kill -- Helo took down at least one with his pilot's sidearm, but Apollo's  had no effect.  Could they have been special shock troops? -- [[user:JohnReese|JohnReese]]

: Are you referring to [[33]], where Helo dispatched two Centurions with a claymore? If so, Helo only took the surviving Centurion down after the claymore ripped its body in half... -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 10:24, 24 Jul 2005 (EDT)

: No, I think he's referring to the one Helo got twice in [[You Can't Go Home Again]] and the one that he shot once in [[Litmus]]. I doubt he was using explosive rounds but they did make huge holes in the Centurions anyway. You have to realize that Apollo's sidearm is a different build, and the sidearm Helo has may be able to take armor-piercing rounds or something. That's what I'm guessing. -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 12:39, 24 Jul 2005 (EST)

: Another possibility is that the Cylons on Caprica don't want to kill him, but only mean to make him feel like he is in mortal danger, so he becomes more emotionally reliant on Sharon in order to survive.  I however think it is more likely that the ammunition he is carrying is explosive.  You see him in the [[Mini-Series]] shoot the guy attempting to jump on the Raptor as Sharon is taking off, and the impact exploded with guts flying out.  RDM even talked about the explosive handgun during the DVD commentary as an idea he got from Bladerunner.  OTOH if those were the same explosive rounds  in Sharon's gun when she shot Adama... --[[User:Laven|Laven]] 04:20, 25 Jul 2005 (EDT)

: No, the gun that Sharon had when she shot Adama was the type that we've seen close-up before. One barrel and bullet-sized. So, regular ammo I'm supposing. I also listenined to the DVD commentary. I'm guessing the difference in damage lies in the firearms. Though there might be a resourceful side of Helo that we don't know...
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 ::It started with a "J" and at one point, when Lee said it, I thought he was calling him "Tarn" so it must be similar to that. Other than that, I'm stumped - although I taped the episode for a friend, I'll remember to keep my ears open when I re-watch it. [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 01:09, 23 Jul 2005 (EDT)
-::He was called Jammer. At least...that sounds right. Yes. It's [[Jammer]]...just watched it again.-- [[user:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 23 July 2005 (EST)
+::He was called Jammer. At least...that sounds right. Yes. It's Jammer...just watched it again.-- [[user:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 23 July 2005 (EST)
 ==Kobol Questions==
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 : No, I think he's referring to the one Helo got twice in [[You Can't Go Home Again]] and the one that he shot once in [[Litmus]]. I doubt he was using explosive rounds but they did make huge holes in the Centurions anyway. You have to realize that Apollo's sidearm is a different build, and the sidearm Helo has may be able to take armor-piercing rounds or something. That's what I'm guessing. -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 12:39, 24 Jul 2005 (EST)
-: Another possibility is that the Cylons on Caprica don't want to kill him, but only mean to make him feel like he is in mortal danger, so he becomes more emotionally reliant on Sharon in order to survive.  I however think it is more likely that the ammunition he is carrying is explosive.  You see him in the [[Miniseries]] shoot the guy attempting to jump on the Raptor as Sharon is taking off, and the impact exploded with guts flying out.  RDM even talked about the explosive handgun during the DVD commentary as an idea he got from Bladerunner.  OTOH if those were the same explosive rounds  in Sharon's gun when she shot Adama... --[[User:Laven|Laven]] 04:20, 25 Jul 2005 (EDT)
+: Another possibility is that the Cylons on Caprica don't want to kill him, but only mean to make him feel like he is in mortal danger, so he becomes more emotionally reliant on Sharon in order to survive.  I however think it is more likely that the ammunition he is carrying is explosive.  You see him in the [[Mini-Series]] shoot the guy attempting to jump on the Raptor as Sharon is taking off, and the impact exploded with guts flying out.  RDM even talked about the explosive handgun during the DVD commentary as an idea he got from Bladerunner.  OTOH if those were the same explosive rounds  in Sharon's gun when she shot Adama... --[[User:Laven|Laven]] 04:20, 25 Jul 2005 (EDT)
-: No, the gun that Sharon had when she shot Adama was the type that we've seen close-up before. One barrel and bullet-sized. So, regular ammo I'm supposing. I also listenined to the DVD commentary. I'm guessing the difference in damage lies in the firearms. Though there might be a resourceful side of Helo that we don't know... -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 13:10, 25 Jul 2005 (EST)
+: No, the gun that Sharon had when she shot Adama was the type that we've seen close-up before. One barrel and bullet-sized. So, regular ammo I'm supposing. I also listenined to the DVD commentary. I'm guessing the difference in damage lies in the firearms. Though there might be a resourceful side of Helo that we don't know...
-==Questioned Plausibility of Cylon Virus Attack==
-"''-	*The Cylon virus managed to disable ''Galactica's'' power systems, even though computers responsible for power was not part of the network (FTL, NAV, DamCon and FC) that the virus infiltrated (the virus had copies inside the subsystems of the networked computers). If Cylon viruses could jump between unnetworked systems, then having unnetworked systems offers absolutely no protection. This seems like a plot goof.''"
-:I really think that the Cylon virus attack was entirely plausible.  When they networked the computers it spread throughout their system.  --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 23:54, 15 October 2005 (EDT)
-The SGt. Hadrian question.
-I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but with the revelation of Cylon Boomer and the fact that there was a Cylon involved in the Aaron Doral suicide bomber thing (and a shortage of Marine NCOs) it's likely that Hadrian was released from her quarters because she was just too qualified to go to waste.  Let's face it, she probably realized her mistake about going after Adama, but up until then, her independent investigation was hitting all the right points.  tigh of Adama probably realized their mistake it keeping her under guard and let her out, just like Socinus was eventually released for the Kobol mission.    Ltcrashdown  December 23, 2005
-:And Cally, 30 days after her actions in "[[Resistance]]". --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 19:08, 24 December 2005 (EST)
-== It has to be said before it gets officially old ==
-What strikes me as funny is that, as the meme's history reflects, the Cylons get aboard and start the carnage before the Colonials are clued in to it! Perfect set up.
-[[Cylon Centurion]]:
-'''<blockquote>In ur base, killin ur d00ds!!!</blockquote>'''  --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:13, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
-== Jesus... ==
-According to the subtitles on the S2 DVD, [[Kat]] says "Jesus" after [[Flyboy]] runs into a Centurion during the teaser. Just want to know if anyone else heard this before I add a note. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 00:36, 1 December 2007 (CST)
-:Yeah, I think I noticed that as well. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:40, 1 December 2007 (CST)
-== Bonnington and Collishaw ==
-According to the "[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion Season Two]]", Bonnington and Collishaw's first names are Phil and Ray. Since this is more or less official canon, should we add this to wiki? [[User:CoreyDanian|Corey &quot;Shadow&quot; Danian]] 09:24, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
-: As long as the names are properly sourced (page numbers, book, etc.) then it's fine. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)