Editing Talk:Tylium (RDM)/Archive 1

The spelling of the mineral on the official SciFi.com website is "tyllium" ('''two''' Ls, not one). Should we correct here, move the page to a properly-spelled paged and redirect? [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:26, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Perhaps it's the site that had a typo; otherwise, maybe we could sweep this one under the rug...---Ricimer 12:00, 19 Aug, 2005 EDT

:I tend to agree, unless there's a good reason, we should just have "tyllium" redirected to the original page. I haven't a clue how to do this. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:47, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)

::Leave a message on Joe's talk page. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:32, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)

==Move to Tylium (RDM)==

As this article concerns the reimagined series, lets move it to reflect that... [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 20:03, 11 July 2006 (CDT)

:No.  The searches for "Tylium TOS" would be so uncommon it simply wouldn't be worth it.  If you want maybe we could have "Tylium TOS" and "Tlyium", but "Tlyium RDM" would be too bulky, relative to the actual number of people searching for the other.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 20:08, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
:Would we have anything interesting to say in "Tylium (TOS)"? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:04, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
::I agree with Peter, keep the Tylium and then have a Tylium (TOS) only if absolutely needed. No need to put (RDM) in every article title. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 02:49, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

== Destroy all Tylium? ==


''It is highly volatile; the explosion from a conventional warhead can trigger a chain reaction which will ultimately '''destroy all Tylium''' in the area''.  

I thought the reason the Colonials used a conventional warhead in "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]" was so that there would be a big enough explosion to take out the Cyclons and secondly, the Tylium would NOT be destroyed?--[[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 17:14, 18 July 2007 (CDT)

:Yes, that seems to be somewhat wrong. Here is what Baltar has to say:

::"But the radiation would render the ore inert. Unusable. I see your dilemma. Well, you're in luck, you know. Refined tylium contains tremendous enthalpy to the order of half a billion mega joules per kilo. If subjected to the right heat and compression, say, from a conventional warhead, you should get a suitably devastating explosion without the radioactive fallout. All we have to do is hit the right spot. Specifically, you need to hit the staging tanks for the refined tylium precursor. It's a lot more unstable than the fuel itself."

:So, it sounds like the ore is not volatile. Only refined tylium is. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:19, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
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 :I tend to agree, unless there's a good reason, we should just have "tyllium" redirected to the original page. I haven't a clue how to do this. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:47, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)
-::Leave a message on Joe's talk page. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 23:32, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)
+::Leave a message on Joe's talk page. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:32, 19 Aug 2005 (EDT)
 ==Move to Tylium (RDM)==
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 :No.  The searches for "Tylium TOS" would be so uncommon it simply wouldn't be worth it.  If you want maybe we could have "Tylium TOS" and "Tlyium", but "Tlyium RDM" would be too bulky, relative to the actual number of people searching for the other.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 20:08, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
-:Would we have anything interesting to say in "Tylium (TOS)"? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:04, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
+:Would we have anything interesting to say in "Tylium (TOS)"? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:04, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
 ::I agree with Peter, keep the Tylium and then have a Tylium (TOS) only if absolutely needed. No need to put (RDM) in every article title. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 02:49, 12 July 2006 (CDT)
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 I thought the reason the Colonials used a conventional warhead in "[[The Hand of God (RDM)|The Hand of God]]" was so that there would be a big enough explosion to take out the Cyclons and secondly, the Tylium would NOT be destroyed?--[[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 17:14, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
-:Here is what Baltar has to say:
+:Yes, that seems to be somewhat wrong. Here is what Baltar has to say:
 ::"But the radiation would render the ore inert. Unusable. I see your dilemma. Well, you're in luck, you know. Refined tylium contains tremendous enthalpy to the order of half a billion mega joules per kilo. If subjected to the right heat and compression, say, from a conventional warhead, you should get a suitably devastating explosion without the radioactive fallout. All we have to do is hit the right spot. Specifically, you need to hit the staging tanks for the refined tylium precursor. It's a lot more unstable than the fuel itself."
-:So, it sounds like the ore is not volatile. Only refined tylium is. It might just be an error of reference. The list starts with "tylium ore" and then continues with "it...", but that "it" is refined tylium. In any case the note can be folded into the third one. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:19, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
+:So, it sounds like the ore is not volatile. Only refined tylium is. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:19, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
-Hm. How about the ''energy density of approximately half a million gigajoules per kilogram''.  Can we change that with ''enthalpy to the order of half a billion mega joules per kilo'', so it matches with what Baltar has to say.  Enthalpy is the sum of the internal energy of a body and the product of its volume multiplied by the pressure... i.e. energy density--[[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 17:52, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
-:The amount of energy is really the same. We don't directly quote it, but it's more common that way. Big SI-suffix, small number. I'd leave it as it is. The other change sounds good. Maybe explain what enthalpy is in a footnote, since not everyone will know it. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 18:19, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
-::I've added 'enthalpy' and kept the numbers as is.  Also added the footnote.--[[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 18:48, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
-== Natural States ==
-In [[The Hand of God]] it's clear that tylium ore is solid. However, in [[Maelstrom]] the fleet is refueling from a gas giant.
-* Maelstrom-type Tylium - gas
-* Tylium Ore - solid
-* Tylium Precursor - not known
-* Refined Tylium - liquid
-Does this mean that there is another form of tylium or is the stuff mined in Maelstrom simply another type of one that's already known? --[[User:Rapturous|Rapturous]] 11:04, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
-:They don't take fuel from the planet itself. I always assumed that they simply refuel the civilian ships from the refinery ship, tankers and ''Galactica''. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:09, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
-::Concur. The Fleet is refueling itself from its own tylium supplies (immediately after the crisis in "Dirty Hands") while orbiting the gas giant. The planet has no solid surface and, therefore, no tylium. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:53, 3 October 2007 (CDT)