Editing Talk:Thomas Zarek/Archive 1

Is there a source for his being "summarily imprisoned" as opposed to "imprisoned", i.e. for the lack of a trial? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]

He is now vice president according to RDM - http://www.pegasusgalaxy.com/interviews/ronmoore.php - [[user:lordmutt|Lordmutt]] 20th March, 2006

Very interesting! :) Can we add  the Vice President box with a spolier tag?? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:28, 21 March 2006 (CST)

Example setup:

{{start box}}
{{succession box|before=Gaius Baltar|title=[[Government|Vice-President of the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]]|after=Incumbent}}
{{end box}}


Edit: Yeah. We would have to add a spolier tag on the top and this tag right before it if we did. And right now I don't think it should be there.

: For the record, you don't have to use the spoiler tags on the talk pages.  They are considerd "spoiler-safe" zones in accordance to [[Battlestar Wiki:Spoiler Policy]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 08:43, 21 March 2006 (CST)
:: I skipped right over it. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:45, 21 March 2006 (CST)

== No evidence that Zarek convinced Baltar to run for prez ==

I know of no evidence in the show that supports the following statement: 

"...Zarek decides not to run against her because he realizes he probably won't win the election...but he decides that there's someone else that might be able to unseat Roslin, vice president Gaius Baltar. Zarek manages to talk vice president Gauis Baltar into running in his place..." 

As far as the scenes actually broadcast in the show are concerned, Baltar makes his decision to run for the presidency entirely on his own, probably on the spur of the moment at Roslin's press conference, and never with any prior consultation with Zarek. It is not the case that Zarek "manages to talk" Baltar into "running in his place..." The above statement imagines more contrivance on Zarek's part than is supported by the facts.--Elach

:No, Zarek encourages Baltar to run for president in The Captain's Hand: Baltar hadn't even considered it seriously before Zarek brought it up.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 22:06, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

No, you are wrong. I have reviewed the scenes in question and there is no indication that Zarek has convinced Baltar to run at the end of their scene together in The Captain's Hand. It is ambiguous, at the very least. Zarek may have opened his eyes to the possibility of running and winning, but there is no definitive indication that Baltar WILL INDEED run at the end of their conversation together. You are making unwarranted assumptions. I could just as easily argue that Six convinced Baltar to run since her image appears to him at the exact moment he appears to decide to make the announcement of his candidacy. She has many times previously pushed him to ascend to the presidency, and that interpretation is equally logical and supportable. I believe you are overstepping the bounds of reporting into the area of excessive interpretation. ----Elach  23:06, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
:Going to have to agree to the above statements pertaining to the scene evidence. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 01:18, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
::One could interpret Baltar's subtle encouragement of Roslin's abortion ban as an attempt to manipulate her into a position wherein he could run against her. I know that's how I saw it. I don't think Zarek convinced Baltar right at the start to run, but I believe that, after some thought, Baltar made up his mind. --[[User:Slander|Slander]] 10:08, 27 October 2006 (CDT)

== Comic series ==

Zarek will be getting his own comic series from Dynamite, which focuses on his past. [http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=82025]  --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 12:07, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
:Non-canonical, but looks to be better drawn and written than the current ones.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 13:09, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
:Why is it being judged "non-canonical" already?  From what (little) I've seen so far, there's nothing to suggest that it would contradict established canon. --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 13:05, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

::I agree. Judgeing from the first issue, and the fact that the narrator is Zarek himself, there is no diverge from contunity of the current series. Is sits rather firmly in the framwork of what we all ready know about the character. While I wouldn't go changeing things in either article until the comic is complete, I wouldn't jump to conclusions either.--[[User:Deepbluesky|Deepbluesky]] 18:59, 5 February 2007 (CST)


== Zarek in Exodus ==
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0610/01/index.htm
Click on this link and scroll down to see scenes from the Exodus episodes.  The last one at the bottom shows Zarek and Roslin plsticuffed together.  Hopefully they'll start to get along soon.  She almost looks happy despite their situation. --ltcrashdown October 3rd, 2006

==Veep?==
After his actions in Collaborators, can we still assume that Roslin's offer of the vice-presidency remained open? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:09, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
:I don't know, I kept it ambiguous in the Pesidency section I wrote. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:17, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
::I was concerned with the succession boxes. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:18, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
:::That's what I thought you were talking about. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:22, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
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 ::I agree. Judgeing from the first issue, and the fact that the narrator is Zarek himself, there is no diverge from contunity of the current series. Is sits rather firmly in the framwork of what we all ready know about the character. While I wouldn't go changeing things in either article until the comic is complete, I wouldn't jump to conclusions either.--[[User:Deepbluesky|Deepbluesky]] 18:59, 5 February 2007 (CST)
-::: Regardless of how close to the framework the comics sit, unless otherwise stated by RDM or The Powers that Be, the series [[canon]] consists of what's been aired, as well as  comments made in the podcasts.  Thus making the comics non-canon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 19:11, 5 February 2007 (CST)
 == Zarek in Exodus ==
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 ==Veep?==
-After his actions in Collaborators, can we still assume that Roslin's offer of the vice-presidency remained open? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 14:09, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
+After his actions in Collaborators, can we still assume that Roslin's offer of the vice-presidency remained open? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:09, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
 :I don't know, I kept it ambiguous in the Pesidency section I wrote. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:17, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
-::I was concerned with the succession boxes. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 14:18, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
+::I was concerned with the succession boxes. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:18, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
 :::That's what I thought you were talking about. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:22, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
-::::Ask Brad Thompson? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 06:23, 6 February 2007 (CST)
-== Locked ==
-Why is this still locked? [[Sine Qua Non]] aired a long time ago. [[User:Space Lizard|Space Lizard]] 17:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
-== Meaning of Toms Name ==
-The meaning of toms name is "Twin of The Baal Protected King". Baal is seen to christians is the devil. I wonder if this has something to do with clyon god.
-== Thomas Zarek ==
-Zarek's full name was stated by Roslin in "Colonial Day". The page should be moved per Leland Adama. I'd move it, but I can't. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
-:Moves were locked down after vandals demonstrated that a LARGE number of moves can be very disruptive. I believe you can get move privileges by getting the "Pilot" user group added to your user. I'm not sure how to do that, but Shane, Joe, or Spencerian should be able to hook you up, I would think. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)