Editing Talk:The Temple of Hopes/Archive 1 (section)

== Article title ==
Which name should we use as the article title, the Colonial name (Temple of the Five) or the Thirteenth Tribe's name (Temple of Hopes)? -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 08:16, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Unless they begin calling it the Temple of Hopes in all future mentions, I think we should stick with the Colonial name for the article title. After all, the show is about the Colonials.-- [[User:David cgc|David cgc]] 14:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::I disagree. It should be changed to the name that it really is. It's a Cylon landmark now, not a Colonial one. [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 14:59, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::It's both, but in the show it is the Temple of Five for most of the times it is talked about, and it is only briefly noted that it used to be the Temple of Hopes.--[[User:Bradtem|bradtem]] 06:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Shane. We should use the proper name, and see how they will call it from now on (if this is mentioned again)-- [[User:Stavrosg|Stavrosg]] 07:36, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::"Temple of Hopes" is the original name, but why is that the "proper" name?  The Thirteenth Tribe had not paid it any mind for a long, ''long'' time, and the most recent and frequent references to it have used the label "Temple of Five."  "Temple of Hopes" has lost its status as the primary reference, and if anything, the recent and frequent label--the one that's familiar to the characters and to viewers of the show--should be considered "proper."  Using Wikipedia as a guide, it's the more recent and frequent labels that are used; for example, Bill Clinton is listed under "Bill Clinton" rather than "William Jefferson Clinton," Microsoft is listed as "Microsoft" rather than "Microsoft Corporation," and the US state of Massachusetts is listed under "Massachusetts" rather than "the Commonwealth of Massachusetts."  I vote for "Temple of Five." .--[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 17:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
: A bigger question, one we may not see the answer to, is how the Colonial scriptures know to call it the Temple of Five at all?  Ellen says that they stopped there on their sublight trip, and must have arrived well after the 12 tribes left Kobol for good.--[[User:Bradtem|bradtem]] 07:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
::A messenger must have returned from Earth to Kobol c 2000 years ago - how else could the Temple of Athena have been built with a map pointing to Earth? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Right, but Ellen converted the Temple of Hopes to the Temple of Five on her sublight trip back after "Earth" was nuked, which is supposedly after the 12 tribes left Kobol too.  Well after.   Doesn't make sense, for now.--[[User:Bradtem|bradtem]] 21:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)