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I think we should add Galactica, and Pegaus in the fleet's listings.--[[User:QX100|QX100]] 7:59, 1 Oct 2005 (EST) | |||
I think we should add Galactica, and Pegaus in the fleet's listings.--[[User:QX100|QX100]] 7:59, 1 | |||
== Astral Queen == | == Astral Queen == | ||
:I thought the [[Astral Queen]], from the New series, had 900 prisoners. Does anyone have a mini-series transcript? That's where the ship is first mentioned. -- [[User:Neochiiz3000|Neochiiz3000]] 12:07, 11 | :I thought the [[Astral Queen]], from the New series, had 900 prisoners. Does anyone have a mini-series transcript? That's where the ship is first mentioned. -- [[User:Neochiiz3000|Neochiiz3000]] 12:07, 11 Jul 2005 (EST) | ||
: Billy Keikeya - "Uh, the captain of the Astral Queen wants to you to know he's got nearly 500 convicted criminals under heavy guard in his cargo hold. They were being transported to a penal station when the attack happened." -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 13:09, 11 | : Billy Keikeya - "Uh, the captain of the Astral Queen wants to you to know he's got nearly 500 convicted criminals under heavy guard in his cargo hold. They were being transported to a penal station when the attack happened." -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 13:09, 11 Jul 2005 (EST) | ||
:I thought so... I was only off by about 400. Better than a full thousand, though. -- [[User:Neochiiz3000|Neochiiz3000]] 13:39, 11 | :I thought so... I was only off by about 400. Better than a full thousand, though. -- [[User:Neochiiz3000|Neochiiz3000]] 13:39, 11 Jul 2005 (EST) | ||
:: It's 1,500 -- though in the mini-series Billy said 500. (Again, his trademark "crappy math" at work.) See: [[Bastille Day#Notes]]. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 13:40, 11 | :: It's 1,500 -- though in the mini-series Billy said 500. (Again, his trademark "crappy math" at work.) See: [[Bastille Day#Notes]]. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 13:40, 11 Jul 2005 (EDT) | ||
:I wouldn't want BIlly as my secretary. I know that much :P -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 14:18, 11 | :I wouldn't want BIlly as my secretary. I know that much :P -- [[User:yenguyen|YeNguyen]] 14:18, 11 Jul 2005 (EST) | ||
== Celestra in New BSG == | == Celestra in New BSG == | ||
:Isn't there a Celestra in the new series, too? I thought I had read that somewhere (or maybe it was that one of the new ships was based on the Celestra design). [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 13:57, 11 | :Isn't there a Celestra in the new series, too? I thought I had read that somewhere (or maybe it was that one of the new ships was based on the Celestra design). [[User:Kuralyov|Kuralyov]] 13:57, 11 Jul 2005 (EDT) | ||
:: It's listed on the Sci Fi Channel's BSG page. Though as to whether or not it is canon has yet to be determined. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 14:17, 11 | :: It's listed on the Sci Fi Channel's BSG page. Though as to whether or not it is canon has yet to be determined. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 14:17, 11 Jul 2005 (EDT) | ||
:::If you get a close up of the ''Celestra'' in "Water" and "Colonial Day", you see the name of the ship written on the side. Same with the ''Striker''.--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] | :::If you get a close up of the ''Celestra'' in "Water" and "Colonial Day", you see the name of the ship written on the side. Same with the ''Striker''.--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] | ||
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::Yeah, and then there's context, too--if somebody's looking at/listening to information about ships, they would probably frame their immediate response to the information in terms of ships, too. Rounding down would be the only way for the writers to explain their way out of the inconsistency. That, or the Colonel's been taking math lessons from Billy. . . . --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 22:07, 30 October 2005 (EST) | ::Yeah, and then there's context, too--if somebody's looking at/listening to information about ships, they would probably frame their immediate response to the information in terms of ships, too. Rounding down would be the only way for the writers to explain their way out of the inconsistency. That, or the Colonel's been taking math lessons from Billy. . . . --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 22:07, 30 October 2005 (EST) | ||
:::From The Farm, we know that 24 ships was "almost a third of the fleet" - Tigh has no rason to underexagerate this. From Home, Part I, we know that the number of people in those 24 ships was actually a little over a third of the fleet's population. --[[User: | :::From The Farm, we know that 24 ships was "almost a third of the fleet" - Tigh has no rason to underexagerate this. From Home, Part I, we know that the number of people in those 24 ships was actually a little over a third of the fleet's population. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 09:39, 31 October 2005 (EST) | ||
Here's something to think about in regards to the size of the fleet and how it increased from 40 to over 70 since the mini-series. In the mini-series, Roslin sent Boomer out with her Raptor to gather other ships which ended up with a ragtag fleet of 40 or so FTL-capabale ships and some other ships that were future space debris when they had to be left behind. Adama sent out a Fleet Wide Communication for all capable ships to jump to the Ragnar Station and roundevous with the Galactica. It's possible that the 30 or so extra ships that the fleet ended up with were other craft that recieved the communication and headed to Ragnar without hooking up with Rolsin's group. Does anyone else agree with this assessment? I think it's valid considering the chaning size of the fleet and would justify the presence of more than one refinery ship (one arrived with Roslin's group and others showed up in response to Adama's message). --[[User:Ltcrashdown|Ltcrashdown]] 20:16, 1 January 2006 (EST) | Here's something to think about in regards to the size of the fleet and how it increased from 40 to over 70 since the mini-series. In the mini-series, Roslin sent Boomer out with her Raptor to gather other ships which ended up with a ragtag fleet of 40 or so FTL-capabale ships and some other ships that were future space debris when they had to be left behind. Adama sent out a Fleet Wide Communication for all capable ships to jump to the Ragnar Station and roundevous with the Galactica. It's possible that the 30 or so extra ships that the fleet ended up with were other craft that recieved the communication and headed to Ragnar without hooking up with Rolsin's group. Does anyone else agree with this assessment? I think it's valid considering the chaning size of the fleet and would justify the presence of more than one refinery ship (one arrived with Roslin's group and others showed up in response to Adama's message). --[[User:Ltcrashdown|Ltcrashdown]] 20:16, 1 January 2006 (EST) | ||
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::It's an admirable attempt at a [[Wikipedia:no-Prize|no-prize]], but has some problems of its own - Adama's order only went out to military units: "Send a message to all the colonial military units. Use priority channel one. Message begins: "Am taking command of fleet." Apollo then reads the message in full from Colonial One: "To all colonial units, am taking command of fleet. All units ordered to rendezvous at Ragnar anchorage for regroup and counterattack. Acknowledge by same encryption protocol, Adama." | ::It's an admirable attempt at a [[Wikipedia:no-Prize|no-prize]], but has some problems of its own - Adama's order only went out to military units: "Send a message to all the colonial military units. Use priority channel one. Message begins: "Am taking command of fleet." Apollo then reads the message in full from Colonial One: "To all colonial units, am taking command of fleet. All units ordered to rendezvous at Ragnar anchorage for regroup and counterattack. Acknowledge by same encryption protocol, Adama." | ||
::So I think I have to agree with Day - unless each of the 30 ships happened to have a colonial military officer with military ciphers on board, I don't see how they could have found Galactica at Ragnar. --[[User: | ::So I think I have to agree with Day - unless each of the 30 ships happened to have a colonial military officer with military ciphers on board, I don't see how they could have found Galactica at Ragnar. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:49, 1 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:::Well, it was worth a try. I thought I remembered the message only being for military ships, but if you consider that Dee or Gaeta are Cylons, then they may have 'accidentally' sent the message to non-military ships to increase the number of potential Cylon sleeper agents. Just a thought. I figured the message from Adama was just about the only way for more ships to arrive. --[[User:Ltcrashdown|Ltcrashdown]] 21:27, 1 January 2006 (EST) | :::Well, it was worth a try. I thought I remembered the message only being for military ships, but if you consider that Dee or Gaeta are Cylons, then they may have 'accidentally' sent the message to non-military ships to increase the number of potential Cylon sleeper agents. Just a thought. I figured the message from Adama was just about the only way for more ships to arrive. --[[User:Ltcrashdown|Ltcrashdown]] 21:27, 1 January 2006 (EST) | ||
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:::::I think the number would actually be about 40 to 50 ships as of "[[The Passage]]" as each jump had at least 8 to about 10 ships in all five jumps.--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] 16.19 Saturday 10 November 2007 | :::::I think the number would actually be about 40 to 50 ships as of "[[The Passage]]" as each jump had at least 8 to about 10 ships in all five jumps.--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] 16.19 Saturday 10 November 2007 | ||
==Botanical Cruiser== | |||
== Botanical Cruiser == | |||
Kahran writes: ''(While the original was destroyed in the Mini-Series, various background shots have placed an FTL-equiped Botanical Cruiser in the fleet.)'' | Kahran writes: ''(While the original was destroyed in the Mini-Series, various background shots have placed an FTL-equiped Botanical Cruiser in the fleet.)'' | ||
Are you sure that's not Cloud 9? They have similar external features. --[[User: | Are you sure that's not Cloud 9? They have similar external features. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:02, 27 November 2005 (EST) | ||
::I'm positive it's the Botanical Cruiser. They've re-used the FTL jump shot from the Mini Series at least once during season two. Durring "[[Scattered]]" when the fleet is making its emergencey jump there's a shot of various ships jumping away and right in the dead centre of the shot is the Botanical Cruiser from the Mini-Series. [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:32, 1 January 2006 (EST) | ::I'm positive it's the Botanical Cruiser. They've re-used the FTL jump shot from the Mini Series at least once during season two. Durring "[[Scattered]]" when the fleet is making its emergencey jump there's a shot of various ships jumping away and right in the dead centre of the shot is the Botanical Cruiser from the Mini-Series. [[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 20:32, 1 January 2006 (EST) | ||
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:The article for the [[Botanical Cruiser]] notes the origin. Yes, it was a recreation of the [[Agro Ship]] as an homage to the ships used in TOS, which were the redressed models used in ''Silent Running.''. That the Botanical Cruiser may seem to appear in the fleet suggests (from a story POV) that there is a FTL-capable ship of similar appearance that joined the Fleet. I think it's a gaffe--the visual effects people used stock footage or models and didn't think. Also, understand that FTL in the RDM series is apparent travel, not true "warp drive"-like flight. See the [[FTL]] article for a good synopsis. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:32, 8 January 2006 (EST) | :The article for the [[Botanical Cruiser]] notes the origin. Yes, it was a recreation of the [[Agro Ship]] as an homage to the ships used in TOS, which were the redressed models used in ''Silent Running.''. That the Botanical Cruiser may seem to appear in the fleet suggests (from a story POV) that there is a FTL-capable ship of similar appearance that joined the Fleet. I think it's a gaffe--the visual effects people used stock footage or models and didn't think. Also, understand that FTL in the RDM series is apparent travel, not true "warp drive"-like flight. See the [[FTL]] article for a good synopsis. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:32, 8 January 2006 (EST) | ||
== FTL == | ==FTL== | ||
Acording to the article, in the original show "With the exception of Galactica, the ships were not capable of lightspeed. " I would like to know where this particular tidbit came from. As I remember some ships originallly were sub-light, but they were reto-fitted to be FTL capable. The problem was that none of them were capable of HIGH FTL speeds. Remember the specs of the Galactica show that she was capable of a flank speed of 10C. Remember, they were croosing not just interstellar space, but intergalactic space. If they were only in the Greater Magelanic Cloud, it would mean having to cover a distance of 140,000 light-years to get here. At anything other than FTL, the goal would be unatainable. Crossing interstellar distances requires FTL, no ifs, no ands, no buts. -- [[User:Centuri|Centuri]] 06:29, 8 January 2006 (EST) | Acording to the article, in the original show "With the exception of Galactica, the ships were not capable of lightspeed. " I would like to know where this particular tidbit came from. As I remember some ships originallly were sub-light, but they were reto-fitted to be FTL capable. The problem was that none of them were capable of HIGH FTL speeds. Remember the specs of the Galactica show that she was capable of a flank speed of 10C. Remember, they were croosing not just interstellar space, but intergalactic space. If they were only in the Greater Magelanic Cloud, it would mean having to cover a distance of 140,000 light-years to get here. At anything other than FTL, the goal would be unatainable. Crossing interstellar distances requires FTL, no ifs, no ands, no buts. -- [[User:Centuri|Centuri]] 06:29, 8 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:In the RDM series, FTL is FTL, it's not a matter of speed, but of distance in terms of the "length" of a wormhole that can be made from place to place. RDM's universe sticks to Einsteinian theories. TOS stories generally were a mismash of "science" that sometimes got in the way of the story. The Fleet probably moves at a good distance on each Jump, but space is really big. Like their TOS counterparts, it will be some time before they find Earth. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:38, 8 January 2006 (EST) | :In the RDM series, FTL is FTL, it's not a matter of speed, but of distance in terms of the "length" of a wormhole that can be made from place to place. RDM's universe sticks to Einsteinian theories. TOS stories generally were a mismash of "science" that sometimes got in the way of the story. The Fleet probably moves at a good distance on each Jump, but space is really big. Like their TOS counterparts, it will be some time before they find Earth. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:38, 8 January 2006 (EST) | ||
== Oh, Split == | == Oh, Split == | ||
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This article needs splitting and name-spacing, doesn't it? Into "The Fleet (RDM)" and "The Fleet (TOS)"? Is there a good reason not to split it that I don't know about, or... can I do it this evening? I was planning on moving it to "The Fleet (RDM)" and then copy/pasting to the TOS page and then making this one a disambiguation page. --[[User:Day|Day]] 10:30, 10 January 2006 (EST) | This article needs splitting and name-spacing, doesn't it? Into "The Fleet (RDM)" and "The Fleet (TOS)"? Is there a good reason not to split it that I don't know about, or... can I do it this evening? I was planning on moving it to "The Fleet (RDM)" and then copy/pasting to the TOS page and then making this one a disambiguation page. --[[User:Day|Day]] 10:30, 10 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:No, go ahead. You might leave a redirect to the RDM article for now - I'll help you go link hunting tonight. --[[User: | :No, go ahead. You might leave a redirect to the RDM article for now - I'll help you go link hunting tonight. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:10, 10 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:This is a happy kind of work that has to be done, now that our TOS pages are coming into their own. I'll look for double redirects and the like after you two pick through. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:56, 10 January 2006 (EST) | :This is a happy kind of work that has to be done, now that our TOS pages are coming into their own. I'll look for double redirects and the like after you two pick through. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:56, 10 January 2006 (EST) | ||
::Blech. That's my half. It's all you, spence. --[[User: | ::Blech. That's my half. It's all you, spence. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:20, 10 January 2006 (EST) | ||
== Alphabetization == | |||
If nobody objects, I think I'm goign to alphabetize the list of ships here in the next week or so. There's nothing wrong with how it is now, except that it looks a little chaotic. | |||
Also - when do we think it's safe to integrate the "Lay Down Your Burdens" ships (seen only on the voting board) with the rest of the ships? Now? A few months? Begining of S3? I'm interested to hear any opinions. [[User:Brecchie|Brecchie]] 20:43, 6 April 2006 (CDT) | |||
:I think it's OK as long as there's reference to them only seen on the voting board in LYBD2. -[[User:StrayCat0|StrayCat0]] 19:12, 6 April 2006 (PST) | |||
== | ==Alphabetization vs. Ship type sorting== | ||
I think we should revert to sorting these alphabetically, rather than by ship type, because users searching for a ship they hear mentioned might not know what type of ship it is. Alphabetical would be more useful. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 21:17, 11 May 2006 (CDT) | |||
: | :Well, I was always looking at it in abject confusion as I tried to sort out which ships originated from scifi.com, and which were their aired equivalents (Celestra vs. Striker, Flattop vs. Virgon Express). It was especially difficult to navigate with all the mentioned-only ships from LDYB2 floating around in and among the more relevant entries. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:37, 11 May 2006 (CDT) | ||
::I am still uncertain. Regardless, much will be sorted out when the Season 2.5 DVD's arrive. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 23:01, 11 May 2006 (CDT) | |||
==As high as 90== | |||
[[User: | :[[User:Wickedsteve|Wickedsteve]] writes: "[The number of ships in the fleet] may be as high as 90." | ||
Can I please ask for your source? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:33, 15 May 2006 (CDT) | |||
== | ==Possible Fleet Pics== | ||
[http://www.galacticastation.com/Galactica%20Station/Screencaps/mini/001%20(403).htm group], [http://www.galacticastation.com/Galactica%20Station/Screencaps/mini/001%20(414).htm jump], [http://www.galacticastation.com/Galactica%20Station/Screencaps/mini/001%20(570).htm movers], [http://www.galacticastation.com/Galactica%20Station/Screencaps/mini/001%20(571).htm galactica park], | |||
[http://www.galacticastation.com/Galactica%20Station/Screencaps/mini/001%20(572).htm side fleet]. | |||
:Here are some possible shots for this article, including one suggested by Spencerian over at Galactica (RDM)'s discussion page. All obtained from [http://www.galacticastation.com/Galactica%20Station/Screencaps/mini/gallery.htm Galacticastation], so we'd need to either upload them as is, or capture them in an alternative format if more quality is needed. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:46, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | |||
::I put up the one fleet pic we have highlighting the enterprise. Perhaps Ford can grab a few decent HD shots --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 14:33, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | |||
:::Didn't you also wipe out the list of mentioned ships and all the demographics stuff? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:37, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | |||
::::wth?, my pc is cutting off stuff when i go to edit. Seems to just cut off stuff past a certain number of characters. I'll restart. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 15:00, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | |||
:::::Well that was weird? Seems to have fixed it now. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 15:03, 12 June 2006 (CDT) | |||
== Ships seen in "LDYB" == | |||
With the release of the DVDs, it is easier for us to determine what the names of the ships are. However, with this arises the concern of having microstubs on ships. If it is all right with everyone, I think it might be best to create a "List of Fleet ships (RDM)" for those ships that we've seen on the tally boards on LDYB, and have the names of the ships as redirects to said article. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:00, 1 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
:Sounds good to me. If a ship becomes more important in the future, and article can be done and redirected to it. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 17:28, 1 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
:Doesn't this article already serve that purpose? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:53, 1 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
::True. What I'm trying to see is whether or not the microstubs would be best turned into redirects to a list of ships, of which we know next to nothing about, such as those from LYDB. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:55, 1 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
:::Shouldn't we have some side page for them because their could be other names we missed. [[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] | |||
:::I think we could simply have all these ships that we don't know anything about redirect to this page. I don't think that a separate List Of Ships page is necessary as it seems to me as redundant. --[[User:Straycat0|Straycat0]] 20:05, 3 October 2006 (AST) | |||
== Ships in the fleet == | |||
Shouldn't the TR-61482, a cargo transport that looks like Kimba Huta be in the list and Gemenon Traveler picture be changed? {{unsigned|CoreyDanian}} | |||
:What episode was TR-61482 featured in? What's wrong with the picture of the Gemenon Traveler? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:30, 2 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
::The TR-61482 was the transport in the mini-series that the Gemenon Traveler page is using. And with the Gemenon Traveler picture, have you seen the real Gemenon Traveler used in "Flesh and Bone". {{unsigned|CoreyDanian}} | |||
:::Where did this name come from? Was is mentioned in dialogue or in writing? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:41, 4 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
::::It's visible on the publicity render. I don't think that merits it an article. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 11:46, 4 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
Why not? It is a ship that has been seen with a name. By the way, has someone seen "Flesh and Bone" and checked ''Gemenon Traveller''?--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] | |||
:Yes, I have. Why do you ask? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:45, 5 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
::Can someone get a picture of the ''Gemenon Traveler'' from Flesh and Bone then?--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] 10.31 24 October 2006 | |||
:::Yeah, I'll get one before I sack out tonight. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 19:52, 23 October 2006 (CDT) | |||
:Hey, I just did alot of editing for this page by updating some information. Can someone also double check "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II" for ''[[Hittes Kan]]'' and ''[[Tarbadeck]]''s spelling cause I think they are actually called ''Hitei Kan'' and ''Tarbadek''. P.S. For a picture of the yellow vessel blown up in the [[Cloud Nine]] explosion, check [[Act of Contrition]], [[Miniseries, Night 2]] (as you see above the [[Botanical Cruiser]]), [[Flesh and Bone]], [[Scattered]] and [[Black Market]]. My computer doesn't have the tech to get screenshots from the DVDs to Computer.--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] 16.15 Saturday 10 November 2007 | |||
--[[User: | ::Hey I just checked for you with my Hi-Def and you're right on both counts. Interestingly enough, the ''Tarbadek'' is actually out of alphabetical order on Roslin's board. Using both the vote tally board, and the one on Colonial One, I found some others that need changing. For instance, the ''[[Picon Express]]'' is actually the ''Picon Princess''. There is another ship on Roslin's board that is clearly not the Mutem Wia, but I can't make it out (right column, second down). The ''[[Chiron]]'' is actually the ''Chrion''. I see a completely new one called the ''Azemenarius'' below the ''[[Astral Queen]]'' but because it's so hard to read I need conformation on that before it becomes an article. The ''[[Bretan]]'' looks more to me like the ''Breton''.--[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 23:59, 9 November 2007 (CST) | ||
: | :::That also fits with [http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1608071055&size=o&context=set-72157602485969223 this] behind the scenes photograph of a clipboard with some of the names. The thing is that "Chiron" fits well with a character from Greek mythology, while "Chrion" doesn't. On the other hand, it's pronounced as "Chrion" in "The Passage", so I'll change that too --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:23, 10 November 2007 (CST) | ||
::I | ::::Interesting, the Hyrrokin is actually a figure in Norse mythology. That photo is a wealth of information. Too bad we can't use it for more than reference. Can we at least use the population counts of the ships listed? --[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 14:31, 10 November 2007 (CST) | ||
::: | :::::Hey I still need an admin to move "Hittes Kan" to "Hitei Kan", and "Tarbadeck" to "Tarbadek". Thanks! --[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 17:34, 11 November 2007 (CST) | ||
::::::I've given you move permissions, so you can make those changes. ;-) Just simply hit the "move" tab and follow the wizard. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 18:37, 11 November 2007 (CST) | |||
:::::::Thank you!!! That means a lot. I'll get right on it.--[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 21:34, 11 November 2007 (CST) | |||
:Question, Why is [[Chrion]] placed in her new position on the list if there is no picture? Besides, why do you think Chrion is a passenger liner, we only know that Thera Sita could be a transport-freighter because the shot zoomed in on Apollo's Raptor. P.S. Someone download a picture for [[Thera Sita]].--[[User:CoreyDanian|Corey Danian]] 13.25 25 November 2007 | |||
::Well i think what's important is whether or not the ship is seen on screen, not necessarily if we have a picture for it, and in that regard, the ''Chrion'' is a special case. If you watch "[[The Passage]]", in the scene with the ''Thera Sita'', you can barely see the ''Chrion'' just before Kat says that she's "got eyes for the Chrion". It's the part where you can see her Raptor from the outside, and you can hear her talking, there is the rear of a barely visible ship in the haze. You see enough of it to recognize that it's one of those luxury liners. Additionally, when the Raptors are lining up before the jump, one of them appears to be escorting the solid orange luxury liner, meaning that one of them was on the first jump. The visual from the episode where it is verified is too bad to put on the site, and we cannot positively verify that the orange luxury liner we see before the jump is the ''Chrion'' (two of them could very well have gone in), although it's very likely. But yeah we do need a pic for ''Thera Sita''. --[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 23:38, 24 November 2007 (CST) | |||
:::I just watched Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II again and confirmed that ''Azmerak'' is actually ''Azmenarius''. Can someone deleted ''Azmerak'' so we don't confuse anyone?--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] 14.50 November 28 2007 | |||
:::::Hey, I watched [[Maelstrom]] with subtitles and [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] told [[Kara Thrace|Starbuck]] that he was taking [[Hera Agathon|Hera]] to a psychiatrist on the ''Inchon Velle''! So that would confirm that [[Incron Velle]] is the wrong spelling. Can someone change that around so to confirm it was in the fleet as of Season 3.--[[User:CoreyDanian|CoreyDanian]] 2 January 2008 20.53 CST | |||