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== Was she reprogrammed or especially created? ==

Was Sharon an 8 programmed for a mission to think she is human or was she created for this mission? This is something which has been never fully explained in the show. Though it seems unimportant at first, it partly defines Galactica Sharon's character. 

If she was programmed to think she was human her orginal programming was either overridden or hidden deep in her core reduced to its basic, which made her actions during "Downloaded" seem like of a person who suffers heavy amnesia. If she was just created for her task it would really make her unique amongst the cylons who seem all to be created with some sort of standard personality just changing from model to model.

: The former, as shown in The Plan. And presumable before that, ever since we learned how the modern humanoid Cylons came about, because all Eights were presumably created by the Final Five decades ago. There's no reason to believe she didn't remember everything in Downloaded; she was conflicted the whole time in The Plan. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

== Presumed Death? ==

While it's POSSIBLE that she died on the resurrection hub, given the fact that she bolted before Helo and the other Sharon arrived and then left again she should have had ample time to escape to one of the many other surrounding baseships. I don't mean to speculate (since her fate isn't shown onscreen), but given the fact that she's a fairly major character and that her death isn't explicitly shown, television conventions would usually hold that she likely survived. I may alter the text to note her fleeing of the room, but I'm betting we'll see her again. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
: Now that Leader Cavil's dead, she'll more than likely assume that mantle. Beyond speculating, I think it's safe to say that we'll see her again, since D'Anna let Boomer be. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin 
Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:: She may well be alive in many possible ways.   We can speculate on a future role for her, but for now she was last seen on a ship that was destroyed.  Would not want to write that she is certainly dead, but it seems reasonable to document that we were not shown any escape and presumptively she's dead.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 18:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Obviously, we'll go with what we've seen. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds good. Document the facts, let the reader to the interpreting/presuming/etc. I'm fine with the text as it is presently written, and this will likely be resolved more definitively within a week or two anyway. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::The [[Podcast:The Hub|Podcast]] has confirmed that she survived. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 09:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Erm... where? I don't see any confirmation of her being alive on that page. My own thought was that she was indeed dead, even though I would find the indirect death of one of the protagonists quite unsatisfying. Not so much because she's dead - wouldn't be the first time after all - but because I would want to really ''see'' her die, get a glimpse of her last thoughts when she realizes she's about to die, seeing the nuclear missiles incoming or so... She's - despite having 'fallen to the dark side' - my favourite character in the show. --[[User:Rabenschwinge|Rabenschwinge]] 18:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::The podcast transcript is currently missing everything after the teaser, IIRC it was confirmed in late act 3 or early act 4. And as Steelviper said, Boomer started running when D'Anna killed Cavil, so she had more time to escape than Helo, "Athena 2" and D'Anna. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 06:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I seriously doubt that Boomer - or any eight for that's worth - would "assume that mantle" (of leadership). The way I see the eights, including Boomer, they are simply too cute, naive and emotional for that, even Boomer in her anger when she threatens to "snap your little neck" to Hera in her cradle. "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned", but that doesn't make her a leader as the ones or manipulative as the sixes. In the initial episodes of season 3 she does not seem convince anyone of her opinion, and even before that I had the impression that Caprica-Six was the driving force in the reformation. --[[User:Rabenschwinge|Rabenschwinge]] 18:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Quite a few Colonial characters have had their character go through wild gyrations, i.e. angsty Lee -> pudgy Lee -> gung-ho Lee -> politician Lee, so as far as storytelling goes, why not have the Cylon models go through some identity crises, too  LOL  And as far as temperaments and characteristics of models staying consistent, well, it's a whole new ballgame.  In the theory that is evolution, stress and change will force organisms to adapt and change, or die; the breakout of civil war and the loss of the ability to resurrect and its attendant dwindling of the species are pretty big imperatives for change.  And besides, would it be BSG without character twists?  Just sayin' ... -- [[User:Fredmdbud1|Fredmdbud1]] 22:14, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

== Removed from Category: People from Aerilon ==

Is that because she wasn't from the Colonies in reality, or because she claimed to be from Aerilon's mining colony Troy? If the former, we should also remove Chief, Anders, and Tigh from 'People from' categories. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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	Is that because she wasn't from the Colonies in reality, or because she claimed to be from Aerilon's mining colony Troy? If the former, we should also remove Chief, Anders, and Tigh from 'People from' categories. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)		Is that because she wasn't from the Colonies in reality, or because she claimed to be from Aerilon's mining colony Troy? If the former, we should also remove Chief, Anders, and Tigh from 'People from' categories. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 23:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

	: Yeah, it's because she was never from Aerilon. And, yes, we should do the same for the other Cylons. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 01:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)