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==Spelling==
==Spelling==
I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 19:02, 23 January 2006 (EST)
I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:02, 23 January 2006 (EST)


Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:
Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:


[[File:Narcho-spectrogram.png]]
[[Image:Narcho-spectrogram.png]]


Note the marked fall of the third formant in the first vowel. This is a very clear indication of a retroflex approximant {{IPA|ɹ}} sound, which demonstrates to my satisfaction that "Narcho" is what RDM ''said''.
Note the marked fall of the third formant in the first vowel. This is a very clear indication of a retroflex approximant {{IPA|ɹ}} sound, which demonstrates to my satisfaction that "Narcho" is what RDM ''said''.
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*An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states.
*An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states.


So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:37, 23 January 2006 (EST)
So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:37, 23 January 2006 (EST)


:I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once.  More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything.  It's a '''space name'''.  I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST)
:I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once.  More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything.  It's a '''space name'''.  I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST)


::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]]
::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]]


:::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST)
:::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST)


::::Or I might be courteously waiting for an opinion that might disagree with our two, particularly since there are others on this wiki who can read a spectrogram. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:47, 23 January 2006 (EST)
::::Or I might be courteously waiting for an opinion that might disagree with our two, particularly since there are others on this wiki who can read a spectrogram. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:47, 23 January 2006 (EST)


:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)
:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)
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== Clarity... and another problem... ==
== Clarity... and another problem... ==


[[File:Narcho nameplate.jpg|right]]
[[Image:Narcho nameplate.jpg|right]]


The release of the 2.5 DVDs has given us the opportunity to finally determine the true spelling of the name. It is indeed "Narcho", and he appears to be a Lieutenant, as seen on the picture to the right. The question, however, remains whether he and "Whiplash" are the same character. (Also, this reminds me to question where "Whiplash" came from in the first place...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
The release of the 2.5 DVDs has given us the opportunity to finally determine the true spelling of the name. It is indeed "Narcho", and he appears to be a Lieutenant, as seen on the picture to the right. The question, however, remains whether he and "Whiplash" are the same character. (Also, this reminds me to question where "Whiplash" came from in the first place...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
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Do we really need the second picture of Narcho in the cockpit? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:39, 8 October 2006 (CDT)
Do we really need the second picture of Narcho in the cockpit? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:39, 8 October 2006 (CDT)
:Not really. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:42, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

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