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I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User: | I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 19:02, 23 January 2006 (EST) | ||
Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants: | Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants: | ||
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Note the marked fall of the third formant in the first vowel. This is a very clear indication of a retroflex approximant {{IPA|ɹ}} sound, which demonstrates to my satisfaction that "Narcho" is what RDM ''said''. | Note the marked fall of the third formant in the first vowel. This is a very clear indication of a retroflex approximant {{IPA|ɹ}} sound, which demonstrates to my satisfaction that "Narcho" is what RDM ''said''. | ||
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*An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states. | *An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states. | ||
So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User: | So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:37, 23 January 2006 (EST) | ||
:I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once. More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything. It's a '''space name'''. I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST) | :I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once. More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything. It's a '''space name'''. I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST) | ||
::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User: | ::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] | ||
:::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST) | :::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST) | ||