Editing Talk:Mercury class battlestar/Archive 1

==Class Name==

So was this actually mentioned in the episode, or is it officially heresay? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 03:01, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

RDM officially christens Pegasus a Mercury-class vessel in the blog for the episode. --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 04:29, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

In a deleted scene from "Pegasus," Adama makes an oblique reference to the Pegasus being a Mercury Class during a conversation with Cain in her quarters ("it's been awhile since i've been on a Mercury-class") --[[User:Griffin-2-6|Griffin-2-6]] 19:06, 30 July 2009 (GMT)

==Specs==

Tomorow ill add to this for basic specs.
(ill have to borrow the [[Battlestar]] page for a template.
ill start one the template in notepad here however.
when i put it up, please be gentle :)

oh and ill add in a section for fan-fiction if you want..
--[[User:Alex mcpherson|Alex mcpherson]] 12:24, 28 September 2005 (EDT)

:No fan fiction, please. Sourced comments from Zoic (the effects guys) would be useful, and if you think you can count the armament emplacements yourself, that would be fine (although I don't think that's possible given the shots we see in "Pegasus"), but unfounded guesses don't belong here. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 12:42, 28 September 2005 (EDT)

Ok.
and no i wasnt going to count the guns. and also i was just going to give a fair idea. and im glad i asked about fan fiction first ;)
cheers for your advice.
--[[User:Alex mcpherson|Alex mcpherson]] 12:45, 28 September 2005 (EDT)

:erm, could you post places i can go for sources , ill look on [[zoic]] but i dont know any others, i dont even know where RDM's blog is. (-embarrased-). I am quite new here, though. --[[User:Alex mcpherson|Alex mcpherson]] 13:16, 28 September 2005 (EDT)

::*[http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/ Ron Moore's Blog]
::*[http://scifi.com/battlestar/bts/videoblog/ David Eicke's video blog]
::*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/ Episode Podcasts] --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 16:55, 28 September 2005 (EDT)

== My Part.. ==

What do you think?
When changing part of it, please post here what your changing and to what so i know, as i have well, bad memory for details after reading new ones lol.
but seriously, what do you think?
--[[User:Alex mcpherson|Alex mcpherson]] 13:59, 28 September 2005 (EDT)

:It would be nice to have an article here summarizing what is known, but I think it's lengthy and too heavy on speculation at the moment. I will try to slim it down to a more manageable size soon. I would point out that in my opinion, [[Battlestar]] is one of our worst articles, not not a good one to emulate here. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 16:55, 28 September 2005 (EDT)

== Age of class==
Would it be fair to say that the Mercury class is at least 12 years old, since Tyrol claimed to have served onboard battlestars such as the Atlantia, the Columbia and the Pegasus since he was 18? It could be that one or more of the ships he mentioned was still the Cylon War-1 battlestar, but considering that there were 120 battlestars by the time of Cylon War-2, and if Galactica was to be the last of her class, it'd seem likely that the Mercury class has been around for over a decade.  --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 20:16, 15 October 2005 (EDT)

:Not a safe assumption. There could easily have been intervening ship classes between the original style and mercury class, and we don't know which order Tyrol served on each of those ships. On top of that, we don't even know Tyrol's current age - since the series doesn't take place in real time, it can't be the same as his actor. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:39, 15 October 2005 (EDT)

==Armaments ==

The Pegasus appeared to have weapons similar to those of the Galactica's main batteries mounted along side the ship on the flight pods, in a fashion very much like the battlestars of TOS. You can see the mounts swinging into action as the Pegasus alert fighters were launching against Galactica. --[[User:David Templar|David Templar]] 20:16, 15 October 2005 (EDT)

:My guess is that Pegasus' flight-pod armaments are larger versions of Galactica's point defense turrets, since Galactica also has them mounted along her flight pods. Until we see them fire anything it's not really worth speculating about. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:39, 15 October 2005 (EDT)

::I posted this to [[Talk:KEW]] as well, but you appear to be correct - the flight-pod guns on Pegasus are of the same external configuration as the main batteries of Galactica. I will be intruiged to see them in action. --[[User:April Arcus|Farago]] 21:59, 18 October 2005 (EDT)
:::There are four on the forward edge of the ship and at least 6 more on each side of the forward section of the ship. These are visible on the hi-res screenshots (.tga format) [http://client.zoicstudios.com/HYPE_pr/BSG_VFXpro_Images/ here]. They are some huge but seriously sweet pictures. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:18, 14 December 2005 (EST)
::::And two more on the front of each flight pod. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 14:19, 14 December 2005 (EST)
:::::Great images, thanks for posting the link. --[[User:MASON|Mason]] 15:19, 14 December 2005 (EST)
::::::from all the images that I've seen, there are 4 very large fixed bow mounted guns, and 4 turreted guns above them. there are a further 8 turrets on the alligator head (4 on each side in groups of 2). then there are the flight pods:3 turrets mounted in conjunction with the viper launch tubes, and 2 on the front and back of each pod. this adds up to a total of 30 twin guns: 4 fixed, and 26 turreted, if I'm not mistaken. here is a reasonable link to a few images: [http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/BSG_GNS.html] feel free to edit the page with the new stats once you are comfortable with my new info.

How many guns does a ''Mercury''-class battlestar have?The article states that there are several, but no exact number is given. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 03:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:We don't know, which is why it isn't listed. Some people probably tried to count them, but there are so many - and only different and incomplete views - that such visual cues aren't really reliable or definite. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 07:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

There is no on screen evidence that the Mercury class has the point defense guns that are seen on the Galactica/Columbia class. {{unsigned|ViperMkII}}

== High Res pics of Pegasus added ==

Added two high-res pics of Pegasus. The pics are very nice.

==Pegasus "Appearances"==

Pegasus was not in [[Resistance]], however, Chief Tyrol mentioned that he served aboard her. --[[User:MASON|Mason]] 07:48, 15 December 2005 (EST)

== Final Pegasus Hi-Res Upload ==

Just uploaded three more High-Res Zoic screen-caps. These five are all the Hi-Res Pegasus images that have been released to date. Have another render from Zoic, but don't know if I should post it here since it was originally posted on the PlanetX65 site. It does have credit info on the image, but it also has the PlanetX64 logo on it. --[[User:KRONOS|Kronos]] 04:32, 09 March 2006 (EST)

== Designer? ==

What member of the production team designed ''Pegasus''? (Mercury-class Battlestar) I know it wasn't Eric Chu, who designed Galactica.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 19:04, 15 May 2006 (CDT)

:This is SOLELY based on my podcast transcribing (no other source) but from [[Podcast:The Captain's Hand]] RDM said:
:"Okay, there they go. Upside-down into the lower bay of Pegasus, which is something that I had been pressing to do for a long time. I- from the get-go when Gary was first designing the Pegasus with flight decks I said, "Let's do one of the flight decks upside-down." He said, "Why?" I said, "'Cause it'll be cool!"

:By Gary I assume he means [[Gary Hutzel]]. Maybe that was just the one design element, but it came to mind when you asked. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:54, 16 May 2006 (CDT)


==Auto Landings==

Do we know for definite that the Mercury Class Battlestars/Pegasus still use Auto Landing Systems? --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 08:41, 31 May 2006 (CDT)

:Nothing I know of in aired content discusses this directly since the miniseries. However, based on content from [[Act of Contrition]] and [[Final Cut]], it would seem that using autolanding computers are still not used and would be a quick way of getting hacked by a Cylon. It would follow that ''Pegasus'' would have her autolanding features off, but again nothing's been aired about it. When ''Pegasus'' got ambushed in [[The Captain's Hand]] it would follow that she couldn't have such features running (nor would they be useful, preferring to go with combat landings). I would suggest we note that it's likely that her autolanding features are off in light of the Cylon attacks based on their previous and current behavior. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:56, 31 May 2006 (CDT)

==Role==

I've changed the "role" to that of [[Wikipedia:Battlecarrier|battlecarrier]]. Seems to make more sense. --[[User:Madbrood|Madbrood]] 15:35, 27 September 2006 (CDT)

:See my comment about this in [[Galactica type battlestar]]. I think this term dilutes what these ships are. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:45, 27 September 2006 (CDT)
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 :See my comment about this in [[Galactica type battlestar]]. I think this term dilutes what these ships are. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:45, 27 September 2006 (CDT)
-== Dimensions ==
-I don't think [[:Image:Mercury_class_battlestar_blueprint_dimension.jpg|this]] is a proper source for the dimensions. The image isn't credited either, and in case looks fan-produced. It might fall under [[Fan fiction]]. There is no further explanation for how those numbers were reached. Maybe it's image analysis, but those aren't really reliable either. I can see adding ''rough'' numbers so people can get an impression of the size, but there isn't much point in narrowing them down to a single foot. Granted, we do something similar on [[Galactica type battlestar]], but at least one footnote there mentions Zoic, which seems more official. Personally I don't care for that one either. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:18, 8 November 2007 (CST)