Editing Talk:Majahual/Archive 1

==Viper Construction?==
Episode hasn't aired in pacific time yet, but did this ship actually construct 40 vipers? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:36, 3 February 2006 (EST)

:Actually, it's not a ship.  It's an asteroid that contains enough metal (and a quote) for the fleet to construct up to 40 Vipers.  Also, it's confirmed that a Pegasus construction facility has successfully built a new Viper about 15 minutes into the episode.  They have the resources, they just haven't used them yet. I'm updating as the episode airs to pave the way for others. --Ltcrashdown 22:39, 3 February 2006 (EST)

::I see that [[User:Erik Pflueger]] has added this article to [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Can somebody who has seen the episode please verify that edit and correct, if necessary? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:11, 3 February 2006 (EST)

:::My fault I guess.  I just said that it was a mining operation.  It's possible that Majahual was a ship working on the asteroid field, but I'll have to watch the episode again to be sure. --Ltcrashdown 23:13, 3 February 2006 (EST)

Majahual is a mining ship.  They use it to get metals they need to build Vipers.  The production facilities for Vipers (well, Viper parts) are apparently on Pegasus.  They aren't able to move ''fast enough'' to build all of them at once, but they have all the materials they need now.  Did we ever find out how many Vipers to a squadron?  Official Companion seemed to suggest 40.  Anyway, it will be a while before they *finish* all of these new Vipers, but they're on their way. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 02:50, 4 February 2006 (EST)

Does anyone else think the name of this mining ship sounds like "Major Haul" as in "major haul of ore"?--[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 02:55, 4 February 2006 (EST)

A colonial squadron numbers 20 craft, correct? It's entirely plausible, given ''Pegasus's'' more modern design that she'd be fully capable of building her own Vipers, Raptors, munitions, etc. I mean, ''Galactica'' is considerably older (and smaller) and she has a munitions plant onboard (albeit depicted rather... sloppily, and being kinda thrown together, but that's another discussion) and an extensive and highly capable water recycling system. The ''Mercury''-class (to which ''Pegasus'' belongs) was probably intended to operate for long periods of time in battlegroups at a distance from the Colonies that hampered resupply of craft, so that capability was inbred into the design. As Ricimer pointed out, it'll take them awhile to complete all those Vipers, but they did manage to get one finished in those 29 days.
And why ''can't'' the name of the ship be ''Majahaul''? What's wrong with that? Why can't the writers have a bit of tongue-in-cheek (no matter how lame it is) and name a ship as they want to? They're the ones writing this tale... so long as they are '''consistent''', and aren't changing the name at the next episode. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 03:51, 4 February 2006 (EST)
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 ==Viper Construction?==
-Episode hasn't aired in pacific time yet, but did this ship actually construct 40 vipers? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 22:36, 3 February 2006 (EST)
+Episode hasn't aired in pacific time yet, but did this ship actually construct 40 vipers? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:36, 3 February 2006 (EST)
 :Actually, it's not a ship.  It's an asteroid that contains enough metal (and a quote) for the fleet to construct up to 40 Vipers.  Also, it's confirmed that a Pegasus construction facility has successfully built a new Viper about 15 minutes into the episode.  They have the resources, they just haven't used them yet. I'm updating as the episode airs to pave the way for others. --Ltcrashdown 22:39, 3 February 2006 (EST)
-::I see that [[User:Erik Pflueger]] has added this article to [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Can somebody who has seen the episode please verify that edit and correct, if necessary? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 23:11, 3 February 2006 (EST)
+::I see that [[User:Erik Pflueger]] has added this article to [[The Fleet (RDM)]]. Can somebody who has seen the episode please verify that edit and correct, if necessary? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:11, 3 February 2006 (EST)
 :::My fault I guess.  I just said that it was a mining operation.  It's possible that Majahual was a ship working on the asteroid field, but I'll have to watch the episode again to be sure. --Ltcrashdown 23:13, 3 February 2006 (EST)
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 A colonial squadron numbers 20 craft, correct? It's entirely plausible, given ''Pegasus's'' more modern design that she'd be fully capable of building her own Vipers, Raptors, munitions, etc. I mean, ''Galactica'' is considerably older (and smaller) and she has a munitions plant onboard (albeit depicted rather... sloppily, and being kinda thrown together, but that's another discussion) and an extensive and highly capable water recycling system. The ''Mercury''-class (to which ''Pegasus'' belongs) was probably intended to operate for long periods of time in battlegroups at a distance from the Colonies that hampered resupply of craft, so that capability was inbred into the design. As Ricimer pointed out, it'll take them awhile to complete all those Vipers, but they did manage to get one finished in those 29 days.
 And why ''can't'' the name of the ship be ''Majahaul''? What's wrong with that? Why can't the writers have a bit of tongue-in-cheek (no matter how lame it is) and name a ship as they want to? They're the ones writing this tale... so long as they are '''consistent''', and aren't changing the name at the next episode. -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 03:51, 4 February 2006 (EST)
-==Time span==
-How do we know it only took 29 days? Scar was killed on the 29th day, but they could have kept mining longer. In fact, when Roslin said another 9 days I'm pretty sure the scene didn't start with "216 hours ago". --[[User:Undc23|Undc23]] 05:19, 5 February 2006 (EST)
-:Good point. Does anyone know what the time frame was for Roslins' comment? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 05:42, 5 February 2006 (EST)
-::I checked, it's 81 hours, which is 3 days approx. So the mining took 35 days (29 - 3 + 9), assuming Roslins estimate proved accurate. It'd be fair to say about 35 days, or 5 weeks. --[[User:Undc23|Undc23]] 06:33, 5 February 2006 (EST)
-:::Long time to be sitting around... A good opportunity for a few basestars to jump in and blow everything to hell. Perhaps the fact that Boomer was onboard the Big G had something to do with this event not occuring? -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 10:11, 5 February 2006 (EST)
-::::Or that the two basestars blown up in Res Ship were the only ones nearby. --[[User:Redwall|Redwall]] 11:06, 5 February 2006 (EST)
-:::::Good point.  But the Cylons apparently knew that there were mining ops underway '''and''', by the estimate given above, they were there for 35 days!  Given their ability to Jump, a raider should have relayed this intel to the Cylons.  Thus my question on why the Cylons didn't simply jump in (we know that Cylon FTL tech is far more advanced by the Colonials) and destroy everything. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 11:53, 5 February 2006 (EST)
-::::::I thought they explained that in "Res Ship Part I" pretty well; it's not just Raiders: ALL of the Cylons can now actually die, so they're afraid to send Basestars and other ships in to attack them.  Right now, the Cylons are sending in a few Raiders like Scar for hit and run attacks, but on the whole, the Colonials hit them and hit them hard, so now they've pulled back and are planning their next move.  In what I think is going to be a good move that can keep the show going for more seasons, the Cylons will start arguing amongst themselves over what the best course of action to take with the humans is now; developing internal factions who don't agree with each other.  Basically, at least by the end of this season, they will have realized that a strategy of frontal assault isn't really working anymore, so they're going to try to use subterfuge, and split the humans against each other. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 12:29, 5 February 2006 (EST)
-== Why the minning operation  ==
-Why the mining operation is not a battle?
-Since Cylons did attack the Colonial forces and inflict loses on Galatica.--[[User:KDP3|KDP3]] 14:57, 15 December 2007 (CST)