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| : ... and the reverse could very easily be true. There's nothing to indicate -- for or against -- Kacey's mother being a Cylon, other than the chance meeting on board ''Galactica''. Personally, for the record, I believe that Kacey is a human child and that the whole meeting was an act of dramatic license on the part of the writers. The emotional impact of finding out that Kacey isn't Kara's kid wouldn't have been as hard-hitting if it occured an episode or two later. "Oh, look, Starbuck, don't know how to delicately put this, but... we've drawn up a list of missing children and have, through research, discovered that your alleged child is, in fact, the daughter of Misses Such-and-Such." -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:42, 29 October 2006 (CST) | | : ... and the reverse could very easily be true. There's nothing to indicate -- for or against -- Kacey's mother being a Cylon, other than the chance meeting on board ''Galactica''. Personally, for the record, I believe that Kacey is a human child and that the whole meeting was an act of dramatic license on the part of the writers. The emotional impact of finding out that Kacey isn't Kara's kid wouldn't have been as hard-hitting if it occured an episode or two later. "Oh, look, Starbuck, don't know how to delicately put this, but... we've drawn up a list of missing children and have, through research, discovered that your alleged child is, in fact, the daughter of Misses Such-and-Such." -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:42, 29 October 2006 (CST) |
| ::Speaking of Misses Such-and-Such - did anyone remember Julia's surname? -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 00:49, 8 November 2006 (CST) | | ::Speaking of Misses Such-and-Such - did anyone remember Julia's surname? -- [[User:Spike|Spike]] 00:49, 8 November 2006 (CST) |
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| :More to the point, the present article asserts as fact something that is not actually certain at all. There is no particular reason whatsoever to believe that Kacey is not genetically Starbuck's daugther, other than the Cylon who told her this appears to be one of the more manipulative ones. It has to be remembered that he told her very clearly that the fertilization was ''in vitro'', and implanted in a human host mother; ergo, the mother who appeared later on the ''Galactica'' could be that surrogate mother and be none the wiser as to the true origin of the child's genetic material (e.g., if well drugged, she might not even remember the procedure at all; they Cylons would simply have to have chosen a sexually-active woman to be surrogate). As to other matters, yes, it's awfully coincidental that "mom" happened to be right there when the populace are reunited back on the ''Galactica'', but all sorts of things in shows like this are coincidental like that, so I wouldn't put too much store in it. Finally, we don't know whether the Cylons will be seeking the recovery of this child, now that they already have one (Boomer's daughter). Anyway, I strongly feel that this article should be rewritten to stop asserting the unknown and explain the actual situation, which leaves a definite question mark hanging in the air. [[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]] 07:04, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
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| ::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
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| ::You're right about the assertion of truth without the proper evidence... However, in going through the podcast transcripts, I found a comment that indicates that the child isn't Kara's:
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| :::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [[Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."
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| ::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
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| :::This is, indeed, pretty damning evidence. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:29, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
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| :::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::I definitely agree. Thanks for pointing out the issue! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:46, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
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| :::::I've added the cite. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:08, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
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| :no. :=P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:44, 26 October 2006 (CDT) | | :no. :=P --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:44, 26 October 2006 (CDT) |
| ::Perhaps if she really were thair offspring, but Kacey has a real mum. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 11:52, 26 October 2006 (CDT) | | ::Perhaps if she really were thair offspring, but Kacey has a real mum. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 11:52, 26 October 2006 (CDT) |
| :::Um... shouldn't the article be called Kacey Brynn? --[[User:Pedda|Pedda]] 19:23, 3 January 2007 (CST) | | :::Um... shouldn't the article be called Kacey Brynn? --~~ |
| ::::No, because we don't know if Brynn is the mother's maiden name or her married name. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 00:03, 4 January 2007 (CST)
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| :When I first heard Kacey's name, I thought KC, which in turn could be short for Kara Conoy. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 10:13, 20 January 2007 (CST)
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| Could we get a screencap of Kacey, Starbuck and the doll from the end of Torn? It could replace the picture of her mother and emphasize their bond.--[[User:Noindiecred|Noindiecred]] 13:24, 10 November 2006 (CST) | | Could we get a screencap of Kacey, Starbuck and the doll from the end of Torn? It could replace the picture of her mother and emphasize their bond.--[[User:Noindiecred|Noindiecred]] 13:24, 10 November 2006 (CST) |
