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== Season 4 spoilers ==

According to [http://roadrunnerdm.livejournal.com/84288.html this blog entry], Kara Thrace believes she is a Cylon, but Katee Sackhoff believes otherwise. Should this be mentioned in the article, or is it too vague? -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 04:25, 27 November 2007 (CST)

I've included it in a spoiler box. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 06:06, 29 November 2007 (CST)

== Bullet points > text ==

Converted the bullet points to more readable text. I've also added a section for [[Virtual beings]] which is my favourite theory at the moment. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 05:57, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:Thanks. Looks much better now. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:52, 29 November 2007 (CST)

== Entertainment Weekly article ==

[http://community.livejournal.com/battlestar_blog/814818.html#cutid1 Entertainment Weekly #973] has an article that can be used for the speculation.

Refering to no. 10 of this article, all persons on the picture are either humans or cylons - The last cylon is not on the picture; its seat is empty. --[[User:Akagi|Akagi]] 20:27, 5 January 2008 (CST)

:Interesting.  Perhaps in light of this (however slight) evidence to the contrary, the paragraph beginning "In terms of narrative, to prevent an anti-climax..." should be removed.  It's too speculative; there are many ways to make the reveal dramatic.--[[User:Hylas|Hylas]] 22:38, 7 January 2008 (CST)

::Okay, that leaves Cottle, Dualla, Gaeta, Hot Dog, Racetrack, Seelix and Zarek. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 00:26, 8 January 2008 (CST)
:::And Cally.--[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 00:49, 8 January 2008 (CST)
::::Only if [[Nicholas Tyrol]] being ''half'' Cylon was a half-truth like Kara Thrace getting killed off. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 01:28, 8 January 2008 (CST)

:::It could also be something entirely out of left field, like a dead character or a previously unseen character.  It's impossible to predict what the writers have planned.--[[User:Hylas|Hylas]] 13:22, 8 January 2008 (CST)

::::RDM does not come out and say this, he just comments that the magazine is clever to notice that.  Since "who is the final Cylon" is one of the big mysteries of the show, if not the big mystery of the show, I think it's safe to say that as he did with Starbuck's "death" that RDM has no problem lying or equivocating when asked point blank questions on the matter, or even if not asked them.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 19:05, 10 January 2008 (CST)

:::::I definitely concur with Brad here. RDM's comments are in keeping with how he deals with these sort of revelations being unveiled before the episode airs. He was particularly protective and misleading in his DS9 days as well, which is something that most people tend to forget. Regardless, I'm happy that Aaron Douglas pretty much knocked the wings out of the whole EW picture speculation. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 19:36, 10 January 2008 (CST)
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-== You Will Know the Truth ==
+== Season 4 spoilers ==
-I found a [http://jamesjacob77.blogspot.com/2008/11/who-is-final-cylon_29.html blog post] that links to [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/youwillknowthetruth/ this page on scifi.com]. They've also got a [http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2319583&st=0 forum thread] on it. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 00:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
+According to [http://roadrunnerdm.livejournal.com/84288.html this blog entry], Kara Thrace believes she is a Cylon, but Katee Sackhoff believes otherwise. Should this be mentioned in the article, or is it too vague? -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 04:25, 27 November 2007 (CST)
-== [[Zak Adama]]? ==
+I've included it in a spoiler box. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 06:06, 29 November 2007 (CST)
-It's possible that Zak Adama is the final Cylon. The main reason I say this is because of [[Leoben Conoy|Leoben]]'s line in [[Flesh and Bone]]: "Adama is a Cylon." I don't think that it's William Adama, Apollo, or by extension Dualla. Is this viable enough for inclusion in the article? --[[User:JemHadar359|JemHadar359]] 05:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
+== Bullet points > text ==
-:In this article on SyFy Portal[http://www.syfyportal.com/news425609.html], Michael Hinman claims that they have received confirmation of the identity of the final Cylon from multiple sources, and claims that the final Cylon is one of five characters listed in the article. Zak Adama is not on the list. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 07:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
-: As I said before—and forgive me for soundin' like a broken record—but this article will be dead in its present (and the ColdBoot form) before the season ends anyway. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
-== Just a feeling. . . ==
+Converted the bullet points to more readable text. I've also added a section for [[Virtual beings]] which is my favourite theory at the moment. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 05:57, 29 November 2007 (CST)
+:Thanks. Looks much better now. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:52, 29 November 2007 (CST)
-that the final cylon will be someone that there's been no speculation about. Someone right out of left field. Personally, I'd like to think it's. . . Romo Lampkin. [[User:Centurion 51773|Centurion 51773]] 16:29, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
+== Entertainment Weekly article ==
-== What about Number Seven? ==
+[http://community.livejournal.com/battlestar_blog/814818.html#cutid1 Entertainment Weekly #973] has an article that can be used for the speculation.
-Do we have any information about the existence or nonexistence of Number Seven? In many interviews and articles, it has been stated that the Final Five don't have model numbers, so it couldn't be any of them. Has the issue of Number Seven been addressed in any interviews? -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 03:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
+Refering to no. 10 of this article, all persons on the picture are either humans or cylons - The last cylon is not on the picture; its seat is empty. --[[User:Akagi|Akagi]] 20:27, 5 January 2008 (CST)
-: Not yet you don't. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 19:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
-:: Since the Final Five are actually older, Seven must have been a failed model. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 15:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
-== Archiving rather than deleting ==
+:Interesting.  Perhaps in light of this (however slight) evidence to the contrary, the paragraph beginning "In terms of narrative, to prevent an anti-climax..." should be removed.  It's too speculative; there are many ways to make the reveal dramatic.--[[User:Hylas|Hylas]] 22:38, 7 January 2008 (CST)
-I can't say I'll miss all the fanwanking we did on this page and its sisters, but I think it'll be a hoot to leave these pages as of Ellen Tigh's reveal, locked with a note about the relative history of how contributors jerked themselves around trying to formulate a logic for the last Cylons. The main articles would be protected as well as the talk pages for people to smile and laugh at (especially the producers and writers who probably made ''sure'' we were wrong! ;) Thoughts? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 03:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
+::Okay, that leaves Cottle, Dualla, Gaeta, Hot Dog, Racetrack, Seelix and Zarek. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 00:26, 8 January 2008 (CST)
-:Sure, archive it.   Though I will point out that if you read the [[Humanoid Cylon speculation/ColdBoot]] replacement that I started for it 6 months ago, it would in fact have led the reader to probably pick Ellen.  Not sure why my efforts to get it live never amounted to anyting, but "nyah, nyah, I told you so..." :-)   So archive that too.  --[[User:Bradtem|bradtem]] 09:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
+:::And Cally.--[[User:OrionFour|OrionFour]] 00:49, 8 January 2008 (CST)
-::I'd say you'd get dibs on that prediction, Brad. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 03:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
+::::Only if [[Nicholas Tyrol]] being ''half'' Cylon was a half-truth like Kara Thrace getting killed off. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] 01:28, 8 January 2008 (CST)
-***Ellen was on a LOT of shortlists. Her mysterious survival, and then Saul being a Cylon... [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
+:::It could also be something entirely out of left field, like a dead character or a previously unseen character.  It's impossible to predict what the writers have planned.--[[User:Hylas|Hylas]] 13:22, 8 January 2008 (CST)
+::::RDM does not come out and say this, he just comments that the magazine is clever to notice that.  Since "who is the final Cylon" is one of the big mysteries of the show, if not the big mystery of the show, I think it's safe to say that as he did with Starbuck's "death" that RDM has no problem lying or equivocating when asked point blank questions on the matter, or even if not asked them.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 19:05, 10 January 2008 (CST)
+:::::I definitely concur with Brad here. RDM's comments are in keeping with how he deals with these sort of revelations being unveiled before the episode airs. He was particularly protective and misleading in his DS9 days as well, which is something that most people tend to forget. Regardless, I'm happy that Aaron Douglas pretty much knocked the wings out of the whole EW picture speculation. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 19:36, 10 January 2008 (CST)