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:::::::I fully agree. But what you'll find a lot on the forums these days, and to a lesser extends on BS Wiki, is that people over-analyze everything these days and read supposedly hidden clues into just about ''anything''; be it props or the smallest lines of dialogue. Sure, there is some foreshadowing and sometimes props do have significance ("Maelstrom" has several cases of that). But sometimes a thing is just a thing. And with regards to Starbuck's voyage, there was a lot of misdirection and complete misinterpretation. Like the whole gas-giant/Jupiter thing. Though that at least was fully intented by the writers. It's a matter of taste. For me (and probably you), speculation has a place here unless it's completely unfounded, while others want to have everything added. I think this is a case where adding it later, if it does gain significance, is better. As it's now, it just suggests something that isn't necessarily there. Especially since it's presented more as scientific fact than supposition. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I fully agree. But what you'll find a lot on the forums these days, and to a lesser extends on BS Wiki, is that people over-analyze everything these days and read supposedly hidden clues into just about ''anything''; be it props or the smallest lines of dialogue. Sure, there is some foreshadowing and sometimes props do have significance ("Maelstrom" has several cases of that). But sometimes a thing is just a thing. And with regards to Starbuck's voyage, there was a lot of misdirection and complete misinterpretation. Like the whole gas-giant/Jupiter thing. Though that at least was fully intented by the writers. It's a matter of taste. For me (and probably you), speculation has a place here unless it's completely unfounded, while others want to have everything added. I think this is a case where adding it later, if it does gain significance, is better. As it's now, it just suggests something that isn't necessarily there. Especially since it's presented more as scientific fact than supposition. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I am not proposing speculation.  It was one line that I believe was documenting something, not speculating on why or what it means.  It may simply be a graphic artist's mistake or special touch, and we document those.  I have not suggested any meaning for it.  We're here to document.  The mysteries of Earth and the final Cylon are the two central mysteries of the show; I think it highly appropriate to document all we notice relating to these.  If you really think it's a matter of great dispute what the moon looks like, it could be written as "The shadow pattern on the moon is unusual, to some it is more consistent with a partially eclipsed moon than a normal 3/4 moon."  If it means nothing it means nothing but an unsual artistic choice.  If it means something (and I really have no idea what) it would be an error not to document it.  But I'm done.  This is not that important, other than to my judgement that the right thing for a wiki like this is to document in detail things that relate to the show's central mysteries.  One can do that without fanwanking about what they mean.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 06:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I am not proposing speculation.  It was one line that I believe was documenting something, not speculating on why or what it means.  It may simply be a graphic artist's mistake or special touch, and we document those.  I have not suggested any meaning for it.  We're here to document.  The mysteries of Earth and the final Cylon are the two central mysteries of the show; I think it highly appropriate to document all we notice relating to these.  If you really think it's a matter of great dispute what the moon looks like, it could be written as "The shadow pattern on the moon is unusual, to some it is more consistent with a partially eclipsed moon than a normal 3/4 moon."  If it means nothing it means nothing but an unsual artistic choice.  If it means something (and I really have no idea what) it would be an error not to document it.  But I'm done.  This is not that important, other than to my judgement that the right thing for a wiki like this is to document in detail things that relate to the show's central mysteries.  One can do that without fanwanking about what they mean.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 06:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::To document ephemera without meaning is to miss the point of documenting in the first place.  Reporting it ''at all'' is an assertion of significance.  The ambiguous visual details of a few frames, without evidence or a theory of relevance, are not significant and just waste space.  Including a throwaway detail because some''one'' feels that it might be significant to ''something'' would seriously degrade the quality of a documentary work.  Without any theory or evidence, it's interesting speculation, and nothing more.  If it becomes meaningful, it can be documented.  I am unsure what the issue was.  -- [[User:Dharadvani|Dharadvani]] 03:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


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